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Old 05-17-2010, 12:27 PM   #101
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100 dead police victims.
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:28 PM   #102
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Again, preaching moral hindsight.
You don't know what the back story relationship dynamics involved are.
Maybe they should have eaten better food and not smoked too.
You know nothing about what the HIGHLY TRAINED SWAT TEAM MEMBERS encountered when they entered the residence either.
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see what i don't understand is how can the cops do that. an let me guess they got away with it to
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You know nothing about what the HIGHLY TRAINED SWAT TEAM MEMBERS encountered when they entered the residence either.
Actually, I do know. I know they were facing an unarmed group of people since the only one dead was a sleeping 7 year old. Unless she had an AK under her blanket or something.
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Again, preaching moral hindsight.
You don't know what the back story relationship dynamics involved are.
Maybe they should have eaten better food and not smoked too.
And you don't know the exact circumstances surrounding exactly how the girl was shot or why. Do you see the problem with your fallacious logic here? Good.

I highly doubt this SWAT guy was happy with what he did and I highly doubt it was done on purpose. What do you think the police force is? A race of immoral humans running around shooting kids and laughing about it once they get back to the station?
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What do you think the police force is? A race of immoral humans running around shooting kids and laughing about it once they get back to the station?
Yes, I do.
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Very sad. May the poor little girl rest in peace.
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The cop probably mistook her for a motorcycle rider.


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I'd have to say that until you do their job then it's hard to judge them. It's a shame a child was killed in a situation like this but there was obviously a reason the gun was out. Cops don't just pull their guns for no reason.
you know they put poison in that kool-aid right?
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Two things for all those quick to jump on the cops side.

ONE: It wasn't the right house. They lived in a duplex and the Murder suspect was in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT HOUSE.

TWO: The woman bumped into the cop completely on accident and wasn't in the middle of a scuffle.

All of you who said it was the parents fault for hiding a murderer need to get their facts straight. Regardless you would be none too happy if some swat team barged into your house and shot your 7 year old when you had done nothing wrong.
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Two things for all those quick to jump on the cops side.

ONE: It wasn't the right house. They lived in a duplex and the Murder suspect was in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT HOUSE.

TWO: The woman bumped into the cop completely on accident and wasn't in the middle of a scuffle.

All of you who said it was the parents fault for hiding a murderer need to get their facts straight. Regardless you would be none too happy if some swat team barged into your house and shot your 7 year old when you had done nothing wrong.
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Two things for all those quick to jump on the cops side.

ONE: It wasn't the right house. They lived in a duplex and the Murder suspect was in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT HOUSE.

TWO: The woman bumped into the cop completely on accident and wasn't in the middle of a scuffle.

All of you who said it was the parents fault for hiding a murderer need to get their facts straight. Regardless you would be none too happy if some swat team barged into your house and shot your 7 year old when you had done nothing wrong.
there is always that..
i guess until we get a straight story we cant really completely asses the situation.
from karup charles it sounds like he knew the situation very well, it is a highly publicized case in Detroit..
but lets see facts.

nobody wants a dead girl or any innocent dead people for that matter.
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Two things for all those quick to jump on the cops side.

ONE: It wasn't the right house. They lived in a duplex and the Murder suspect was in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT HOUSE.

TWO: The woman bumped into the cop completely on accident and wasn't in the middle of a scuffle.

All of you who said it was the parents fault for hiding a murderer need to get their facts straight. Regardless you would be none too happy if some swat team barged into your house and shot your 7 year old when you had done nothing wrong.
This post would have been so much more convincing if you attached a credible source to the bottom of it.

Evidence please, thanks in advance.
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By COREY WILLIAMS (AP) ? 37 minutes ago
DETROIT ? An attorney for the family of a 7-year-old girl slain during a weekend raid at their Detroit home says video footage contradicts the police department's version of events.

Geoffrey Fieger (FY-gur) said Monday that the video shows police fired into the home at least once after lobbing a flash grenade through a window.

He says that contradicts the police department's explanation that an officer's gun fired during a confrontation with a resident inside the home.

Seven-year-old Aiyana Jones was shot in the neck and died.

Fieger says he viewed three to four minutes of footage but declined to say who showed it to him.

Police are trying to obtain footage from an A&E camera crew that was at the raid.
An A&E spokesman declined to comment.
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Southfield attorney Geoffrey Fieger said this afternoon that he has viewed videotape that shows the gunshot that killed 7-year-old Aiyana Jones came from outside the house and not after an altercation inside the door as police officials have claimed.

“It’s not an accident. It’s not a mistake. There was no altercation,” Fieger said. “The bullet was shot from outside the house.”

Fieger, who is representing the dead girl’s family, said he will file lawsuits on their behalf on Tuesday.

He would not disclose the source of the videotape, but said it shows the event from before the police raid until after the girl’s body was carried outside.

Police officials who were investigating the incident have said the shooting Sunday morning on Detroit’s east side was accidental and occurred after officers were inside the home.

Assistant Chief Ralph Godbee said the gunshot occurred after some type of altercation between one of the officers and the girl’s grandmother.

Today, Godbee refused to comment on Fieger’s allegations and many other swirling questions because the state police have taken over the investigation.

Contact JIM SCHAEFER: 313-223-4542 or [email protected].
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Thank you for this article as I had not seen that before. It only broke a few minutes ago. FYI Geoffrey Fieger is a celebrity case ambulance chaser so no surprise here that he is the attorney. I am not saying that this is not true though I see no mention of a duplex and them being in the wrong house in this report.
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Two things for all those quick to jump on the cops side.

ONE: It wasn't the right house. They lived in a duplex and the Murder suspect was in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT HOUSE.

TWO: The woman bumped into the cop completely on accident and wasn't in the middle of a scuffle.

All of you who said it was the parents fault for hiding a murderer need to get their facts straight. Regardless you would be none too happy if some swat team barged into your house and shot your 7 year old when you had done nothing wrong.
If this is true, it only illustrates what I've been saying: Incompetent police. Period.
And isn't SWAT supposed to be held to higher standards? Now they are raiding the wrong house and killing little girls? Pathetic. Everyone on that swat team needs to be put in a meter-maid cart for the rest of their careers.
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Two things for all those quick to jump on the cops side.

ONE: It wasn't the right house. They lived in a duplex and the Murder suspect was in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT HOUSE.

TWO: The woman bumped into the cop completely on accident and wasn't in the middle of a scuffle.

All of you who said it was the parents fault for hiding a murderer need to get their facts straight. Regardless you would be none too happy if some swat team barged into your house and shot your 7 year old when you had done nothing wrong.
So, you were there I guess. Was it scary?
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So, you were there I guess. Was it scary?
No, but she was...



And he saw video of the whole incident...

http://www.freep.com/section/videone...id=86123334001

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Old 05-17-2010, 02:21 PM   #120
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http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/23570515/detail.html

"The house is a duplex, and family members of the girl said the man police were looking for was not in their home but the one above them."

Regardless, is it only cool to murder a 7 year old when there are other murderers around? I'll keep that in mind.

More sources....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37195018...s-ft_myers_fl/
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No, but she was...



And he saw video of the whole incident...

http://www.freep.com/section/videone...id=86123334001

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this stats the person of interest was on the second floor of a duplex
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Um, yes... they do. I've seen it many times with my own eyes.
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Did you even watch the video? Fuck the lady for trying to fight the cop. IT IS HER FAULT THE KID IS DEAD.
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maybe... they should raise the bar up a bit for becoming a cop
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Did you even watch the video? Fuck the lady for trying to fight the cop. IT IS HER FAULT THE KID IS DEAD.
Yeah, but hysteria always wins over common sense, that's how these news channels keep their ratings
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" Originally Posted by baddog View Post
Did you even watch the video? Fuck the lady for trying to fight the cop. IT IS HER FAULT THE KID IS DEAD."

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Yeah, but hysteria always wins over common sense, that's how these news channels keep their ratings
More disinformation.

"Family members identified the woman as the child’s grandmother and Charles Jones’ mother, Mertilla Jones, who has said she was not involved in a struggle with the officer. Police later said the officer may have just collided with the woman."

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/artic...4600696548.txt

But who really cares anyways. These people are brown and that automagically makes them guilty of something right? They had it comin one way or anuva!

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Did you even watch the video? Fuck the lady for trying to fight the cop. IT IS HER FAULT THE KID IS DEAD.
Yeah, I watched both. There is video showing they fired into the house, and apparently hit the girl, before they even entered the house and there was no struggle as described by the police. The story the police initially gave the press is bullshit.
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maybe... they should raise the bar up a bit for becoming a cop
I agree. I got more training in boot camp than most of these cops have.

Somehow I managed to go to war, armed with an M60 Machine Gun, grenades, a 50 cal mounted on my truck, several knives, a bayonet, stacks of LAW anti-tank rocket launchers, my M-16 and of course, all the ammo I could carry on my vehicle, and yet the whole time I was there, managed to NOT kill any little girls in the process. And yes, little boys & girls were running loose in the roads. I fed many of them.

I expect the SWAT team to be able to act on a search warrant with the same results.
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The story the police initially gave the press is bullshit.
Thanks! This is what has everyone confused over the issue. It is funny how people are so quick to blame the poor girls family when really it's the police who are the ones who should be questioned. The mistake DPD made was taping the whole damn thing. Now all they can do is backpedal from their original bullshit story of: BLACK FAMILY HIDES MURDERER AND GRANDMA TRIES TO FIGHT THE SWAT TEAM RESULTING IN THE SHOOTING OF HER 7 YEAR OLD GRANDAUGHTER!

As if there is any excuse for shooting a seven year old or just randomly firing into a house that might have children in it for that matter.
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they were being filmed by A & E tv show apparently...
you'd think the sargant would, say something like "hey we are gonna be on tv, lets make sure we do everything by the book "
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they were being filmed by A & E tv show apparently...
you'd think the sargant would, say something like "hey we are gonna be on tv, lets make sure we do everything by the book "
why? They were going to be stars..
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they were being filmed by A & E tv show apparently...
you'd think the sargant would, say something like "hey we are gonna be on tv, lets make sure we do everything by the book "
That explains a lot. Over zealous cops acting like Rambo for the cameras. It's a wonder more people didn't die.
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Her dumb useless parents were aiding and abetting a murderer. I wish the cops shot everyone in that house.

Look to the bright side though. We will have 1 less crack whore on welfare 10 years from now!!!
fuck you bitch dont EVER cross paths with me motherfucker
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Did you even watch the video? Fuck the lady for trying to fight the cop. IT IS HER FAULT THE KID IS DEAD."



More disinformation.

"Family members identified the woman as the child?s grandmother and Charles Jones? mother, Mertilla Jones, who has said she was not involved in a struggle with the officer. Police later said the officer may have just collided with the woman."

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/artic...4600696548.txt

But who really cares anyways. These people are brown and that automagically makes them guilty of something right? They had it comin one way or anuva!
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lol and the guys who were sticking up for the cops like baddog, etc, disappear after it is shown that the cops fucked up.. how funny.lol
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Aren't the police supposed to be looking out for the interests of innocent people like 7 year-old girls? I suspect that had the police not done things the way they did, she'd still be alive. They were in control. She didn't have to die.
the police do not protect people, they apprehend criminals... big difference
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Sad 7 is way to young to die.
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Several news clips here. Really sad.



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the police do not protect people, they apprehend criminals... big difference
Just as lawyers are not on a search for the truth, or justice. Their JOB is to WIN. Period. PERIOD.

People go through life sometimes mistaking the most simple things, and thats one of them.

It seems there is video of them launching the incendiary grenade through the window, then cops firing at the area it landed.. which was on a couch with a sleeping child. What a horrific scene.

Even the state police now have not even released the name of the officer who fired the shot. What kind of crap is that? If it was some thug, his face beaten mugshot would be all over the world by now and he'd be under protection from being killed while in lock up. We all know this.

But the police officer? Dont even know the name yet. Sad.
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:47 AM   #140
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yep, if the residents hadn't been murdering people and resisting arrest the little girl would still be alive
So if your roommate buys drugs and the cop bust in and kill you and your baby then
you deserve it for having a shitty roommate......right?

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Old 05-18-2010, 11:48 AM   #141
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how could the cops go an shoot a 7 year old while sleepin what kind of world are we livin in this year wtf

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Old 05-18-2010, 12:16 PM   #142
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People think this only happens in the movies...

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In addition to alleging that the footage shows Jones' death was "not an accident," Fieger claims it also contains evidence of a cover-up.

"The videotape shows clearly that the assistant police chief and the officers on the scene are engaging in an intentional cover up of the events," Fieger told The AP.
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:23 PM   #143
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So if your roommate buys drugs and the cop bust in and kill you and your baby then
you deserve it for having a shitty roommate......right?

In this case it's not the roommate, but rather the NEIGHBOR
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:27 PM   #144
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they knew it was a child in there they could have waited till she went to school or whatever
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they knew it was a child in there they could have waited till she went to school or whatever
...or at least not start firing off rounds before they even enter the house and maybe not intentionally raid innocent people. They admit they knew that this family was completely innocent. They just decided it would be easier to raid the entire building than just the neighbors.
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...or at least not start firing off rounds before they even enter the house and maybe not intentionally raid innocent people. They admit they knew that this family was completely innocent. They just decided it would be easier to raid the entire building than just the neighbors.
i hope they get some justice
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:10 PM   #147
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this is simply very very sad.
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"Charles Jones, her father had covered his daughter with her favorite blanket as she slept in the couch. He woke up to the sound of flash grenade and then by a gunshot. When he rushed to the living room he was forced to lie on the ground with the face in his daughter’s blood, by the police. "

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that just sucks.
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