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Well of course it's Detroit
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I "love" that country more and more.
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Why does it always happen to the "honor student"?
Couldn't they just once accidentally kill "the neighborhood bully douchebag?"
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As Father and a person that lives just outside Detroit this is something that has been discussed around my friends and home allot. Let me point soem thing out to bring it into perspective.
1. The family was housing a murder suspect in a very publicized case. 2. The child was in the living room at 2 am not in her room. 3. The family resisted arrest. The fact is its not the child or the cops fault. It is 100% the piece of crap parents. If they had simply been good parents in one of 3 events this would not have happened. 1. Dont let criminals stay at your home. Dont give me the they didn't know the older brother was a murderer parents will know if kids are in gangs or committing crimes if they pay any attention to their kids. 2. I have a 5 year old and honestly I feel like im failing on my job when I let him watch Wall-e till 11:30 in his room. There is sure in hell no way I let him sleep on the couch at 2 am. Children need boundaries. 3. Dont resiste arrest. Police are not judges, prosecutors or juries. The time to clear things up is after the situation is calmed down and your int he prosecutors office or the jail house or at least after the warrant is executed. If you resiste arrest you deserve what happens. I have been wrongfully detained before and searched under suspicion only to be let go as soon as they realize it is a mistake. A few minutes of lost time waiting for cops to smarten up has saved me night in jail for resisting. It's easy to blame the cops but the fact is here in detroit it is bad enough with them doing there job if we tie there hands more or dont have them I can guarantee Anarchy would not be pretty.
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This story brought tears to my eyes. I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter and if this happened to me, if someone mistook my house for another house, or even if someone was staying with me that I did not know they were wanted, and my daughter was killed in the process, the department would be going through hell fury.
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I'm surprised the fucking pigs didn't tase the little girl first, then shoot her.
Detroit should riot over this. Oakland sure as fuck would. Oakland would be burning to the ground right now if that shit happened. ![]()
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1. The cops did not mistake the house it was the right house and the arrested the suspect. 2. I dont see you resisting arrest especially with the life of your daughter at risk.
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Time for war! The cops and Gov are not your friends. Just wait til they witch hunt us people in porn!
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karup charles, well said..
many here dont realize the dangers of living in a criminal environment such as this family did. i am in LA, often times here we have similar stories, it is very unfortunate that innocent children are in the middle of violence, but the law is establish to protect law abiding citizens, and to pursue and prosecute criminals regardless of the environment they may be hiding out... sometimes i wish there is a requirement or license required to breed...
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These idiot cops need to have more regular training with their weapons.
Reminds me of the retard cop around here that fired at someone 19 times and missed every time. Of course his bullets hit a bunch of random houses in the area where people were sleeping. Also reminds me of this dumb bitch. Oops. |
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It's up to SWAT to assess the situation before moving in.. that includes CHECKING FOR CHILDREN IN THE HOUSE! Because they didn't do that they went ahead and flashbanged it, despite that being against regulations with the presence of children, and went in with one asshole who seemed to be more trigger happy than a 17 year old boy on prom night... Cops are already commenting on it saying that they were in the wrong, but they have you standing up claiming things like 'standard procedure'. Think about it, what if they did have the wrong house, and they bust into yours instead. Flash banging all your bedrooms and your child was shot in the process. Would you be claiming the same thing? This exact thing happened to my mother. Some moron gave them the wrong address and told them that there was a drug operation going on there and they kicked the doors in and slammed her to the ground and had her hogtied. Being in Canada, she was lucky enough that they don't allow things like flashbang grenades. bad parents? It wouldn't be the first time that a kid fell asleep on a couch in the living room, and no, not all parents are completely aware of all their kids wrong doings, because that would be IMPOSSIBLE.
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While very sad, they were in the house for some reason.
Now if they truly did have the wrong house, that is horrible. But something had to be going on for the cops to be there in the first place.
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she was exempt from this protection? cause she's the only one dead |
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that is just fucked up...i know they are just trying to do their job but a a 7 yrs old girl wtf
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2. Who said he was trigger happy did you miss the resisting arrest and the fact the mother grappled with the officer? 3. Please show me where I said Standard procedure cause I read it again and I didn't say that. Mainly cause as I am not a cop or a relative of a cop I have no idea what Standard procedure is. Quote:
Again selective reading would lead you to this conclusion. Ill clarify it again the easiest one. Is dont resist arrest. Do you live in Detroit? Have you seen it recently? To say people live like animals here is an understatement. City blocks sell for under 100K. Houses are being burned down so the starving families can grow vegetables on vacant lots. I have had 2 employes houses with kids inside get shot up due to thats the new gang initiations. This is the shit we have to deal with cause people like this kids older brother want to fit in. Now due to his actions which clearly come from the shitiest parents in the world, has lead to this innocent childs death. There are fingers to point here but its at the pieces of crap in this family not the cops that have the guts to go into these neighborhoods to protect us.
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Aren't the police supposed to be looking out for the interests of innocent people like 7 year-old girls? I suspect that had the police not done things the way they did, she'd still be alive. They were in control. She didn't have to die.
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And if someone grapples with a cop that is holding a loaded gun, what do you think the proper procedure would be? Just leave?
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bullshit. It is 100% the fault of the police. Preaching moral hindsight is fucking lame. If the pigs can't serve a search warrant without killing little sleeping girls, they need to find another line of work. Maybe the fucking postal service or something.
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Question: what would you have the police do if they enter a home to arrest a murderer and were met with resistance and a fight? What should proper protocol be? What should they do? What should the police do to ensure that no child, or dog, is never anywhere to be found near a raid? And if there is a child, or dog, anywhere near a raid... what should be done instead?
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So you're actually telling me that the SWAT Team is incapable of gaining control over someone grappling with a cop? What the fuck are they training for? A movie?
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Apparently they did gain control, because no cops were killed. You act like the cops busted in there, took aim at the kid and fired.
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And for the record, I've always said the pigs are pigs and should not be trusted.
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Where are all the gun advocates? If this family had been packing in the house they could have 'protected' themselves and executed the entire SWAT team. Isn't that 'freedom'? Isn't that their 'right'?
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wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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i find it interesting that a swat team member cant handle a mother resisting without their fiream going off and killing an innocent child.
no matter what...that is one major fuck up...and he should be finished as a police officer or more likely...moved out of swat, that bullet could have hit one of his guys as well he has no business being on the squad |
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No, the girl died because the SWAT team executed her.
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If they had the legal right to own weapons, then sure. Would have been pretty retarded to pull out a little pistol against a SWAT team... don't you think? Almost as retarded as resisting arrest against a SWAT team... don't you think?
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Yet these people didn't pull any guns on the pigs did they. SWAT were the only ones killing people in there. If the SWAT members cannot control one unarmed person resisting arrest, they need to be stripped of the position. Lots of people resist arrest.
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My comments are based on a very long history of unqualified, poorly trained police abusing their power and fucking up resulting in people dying for no reason. I don't need to be drunk to come to those conclusions. It's fact.
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Wouldn't protecting your sleeping 7-year old daughter from cowboy SWAT members be considered self-defense? I would've killed that fucker where he stood. Shooting my daughter would've been the last thing that fucker ever did.
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Nah, protecting your sleeping 7-year-old daughter would involve not giving shelter to someone who murdered a teenager.
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You don't know what the back story relationship dynamics involved are. Maybe they should have eaten better food and not smoked too.
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Horrible, but I do not think police is to blame here.
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