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Emil · 05-15-2010, 10:57 AM

Can anyone beat this server offer?

This is for a fully MANAGED server.

CPU: Core2Quad Q9300 QUAD CORE 2.5GHZ 1333FSB
Memory: 8GB DDR2 RAM (I need at least 8 GB RAM)
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA
Bandwidth: 4000GB / Month (I do not need 4TB, ~2TB would be fine)
IPs: 5

I prefer the controlpanel Webmin. (I do NOT want crappy bloated CPanel)

Price: $119.95/mo

Can anyone beat this price?

Amputate Your Head · 05-15-2010, 11:02 AM

cpanel is nice, but yeah.... slow as fuck.

Emil · 05-15-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

cpanel is nice, but yeah.... slow as fuck.

Yes, I had one server with 6k domains on Cpanel and the server couldn't handle any more. On a server without Cpanel I currently have close to 50,000 domains and it runs just fine.

Jack Sparrow · 05-15-2010, 11:04 AM

Ask zak from yellowfiber, best prices, best service. Ive been hosting with them for a long time. Average response time when i needed some extras: 2 minutes

Amputate Your Head · 05-15-2010, 11:09 AM

I'm using vDeck 4 now, and it's slow as fuck too.

Profits of Doom · 05-15-2010, 11:24 AM

I'm also shopping for a managed server for a tube site so I'm keeping an eye on this thread, although I personally don't mind CPanel. What company made you the original offer?

Marcus Aurelius · 05-15-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil

I currently have close to 50,000 domains

50k domains x $7 = $350,000 / year

greg80 · 05-15-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCQ

50k domains x $7 = $350,000 / year

I'm guessing subdomains or some free domains

Emil · 05-15-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by greg80

I'm guessing subdomains or some free domains

Correct, most domains is subdomains.

Emil · 05-15-2010, 01:12 PM

Come on hosting-guys, gimme something!

BSleazy · 05-15-2010, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil

Can anyone beat this server offer?

This is for a fully MANAGED server.

CPU: Core2Quad Q9300 QUAD CORE 2.5GHZ 1333FSB
Memory: 8GB DDR2 RAM (I need at least 8 GB RAM)
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA
Bandwidth: 4000GB / Month (I do not need 4TB, ~2TB would be fine)
IPs: 5

I prefer the controlpanel Webmin. (I do NOT want crappy bloated CPanel)

Price: $119.95/mo

Can anyone beat this price?

Hard to beat an offer like that.

st0ned · 05-15-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCQ

50k domains x $7 = $350,000 / year

Don't steal my avatar, k thx.

Cyandin · 05-15-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Emil

Come on hosting-guys, gimme something!

Emil,

I don't know if anyone else has told you this yet, but if not, I would strongly suggest you take the following facts into consideration.

Let's do a cursory overview of what costs go into a server like the one you're talking about, from the hosts perspective.

1. The server itself, even at a good deal, will cost around $1k to procure.
2. 4TB of bandwidth is over 10mbps, but I'll be conservative and call it 10mbps. That 10mbps, even for a large host will cost them a little money.
3. The cost of rackspace, power and cooling (if the server is in a SAS70 Type-II certified DC - less if it's in someones basement) will typically run around $20-40/mo per U of space.
4. Shipping for one server like that will probably be around $20.
5. Depending on how many tickets you submit, and how well staffed the hosts support department is, the average cost in labor you might generate could fluctuate from less than $20/mo to well over $200/mo due to time spent working on your tickets.

Now, is this server was sold to you at $120/mo, minus the cost of rackspace, power and cooling, you're already under $100/mo.

At this rate, you can see that after you figure in support costs since its a managed server, the host is looking at anywhere from 11-15 months or more to make back the money they spent on your server. A 11-15 month ROI on any deal that does not have a contract length of at least 24 months is simply bad business.

I know you want to get a good deal, and I would never discourage you from being a wise consumer and shopping around. However, it would greatly behoove you to consider these things when choosing a host, because I think you would agree that the apparent benefit of saving $50-100/mo on your server pales in comparison to the damage you would suffer a the hands of poor support, dramatically oversold bandwidth, or a flat out "tits up" scenario.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ICQ, email, or call me directly at 512-686-3051.

Profits of Doom · 05-15-2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil

Can anyone beat this server offer?

This is for a fully MANAGED server.

CPU: Core2Quad Q9300 QUAD CORE 2.5GHZ 1333FSB
Memory: 8GB DDR2 RAM (I need at least 8 GB RAM)
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA
Bandwidth: 4000GB / Month (I do not need 4TB, ~2TB would be fine)
IPs: 5

I prefer the controlpanel Webmin. (I do NOT want crappy bloated CPanel)

Price: $119.95/mo

Can anyone beat this price?

I'd love to know which company made you this offer...

TidalWave · 05-15-2010, 02:36 PM

You want better than $119 for that? You are kidding. That is a very low price, and you should be weary of the service especially because you are going to be relying on them for the management.
The machine they are selling you is also older parts, thus the reason they can sell it at $119. They've had it for a while already and just want to blow it out (and apparently their only method of competing is on price.... which is a very bad way to do business).

I bet you that you will be moving out of there before the 1 year mark due to service.

mineistaken · 05-15-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyandin

Emil,

At this rate, you can see that after you figure in support costs since its a managed server, the host is looking at anywhere from 11-15 months or more to make back the money they spent on your server. A 11-15 month ROI on any deal that does not have a contract length of at least 24 months is simply bad business.

But the server is not going anywhere. If the client goes host can set up another client on the same server..

fatfoo · 05-15-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Emil

Price: $119.95/mo

This is very expensive. I think that many people can beat this price. Good luck.

TidalWave · 05-15-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

But the server is not going anywhere. If the client goes host can set up another client on the same server..

OK, and how long will it sit before they find another client?
What about the cost to acquire that new customer (advertising, initial support costs, sales commissions, cost of the server sitting empty, etc)?

It's just like renting a house, you don't want to lose a tenant/customer because of the costs associated with finding another.

Emil · 05-15-2010, 02:49 PM

I just looked up my old server and the specs is exactly the same as the new server I'm interested in, but the one I currently got is a unmanaged server:
Core2Quad Q9300 QUAD CORE 2.5GHZ 1333FSB 8GB 1TB SATA 4000GB/MONTH IPs: 5 $99.95/month.

The resellers is probably working with the same datacenter. I had this server for several months and there have been zero problems so far so I'm not sure the new server I'm looking at have a price that's too good to be true.

For all of you that want to know where I found this server, I will tell you after I'm done with the deal.

mikke · 05-15-2010, 02:57 PM

Emil, please tell us where can we get server like this!

sandman! · 05-15-2010, 03:16 PM

not interested in matching it or beating it here

LoveSandra · 05-15-2010, 03:46 PM

cpanel is a must have

Barefootsies · 05-15-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

I'm also shopping for a managed server for a tube site so I'm keeping an eye on this thread, although I personally don't mind CPanel. What company made you the original offer?

Since I started my hosting company to deal with nothing but my MechBunny and tube web/site development deals we are set up to deal with tubes out of the gate. Konrad sets all servers up with what is needed, and works directly with my tech support guys from L1-L3 and can get you taken care of.

Unfortunately, there is not way for me to beat that price quoted. However, most of my tube site clients do opt for this server as their initial box. Once they get more content on their site, we can add in memory/storage as needed and upgrade bandwidth as well.

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Zverka · 05-15-2010, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil

Can anyone beat this server offer?

This is for a fully MANAGED server.

CPU: Core2Quad Q9300 QUAD CORE 2.5GHZ 1333FSB
Memory: 8GB DDR2 RAM (I need at least 8 GB RAM)
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA
Bandwidth: 4000GB / Month (I do not need 4TB, ~2TB would be fine)
IPs: 5

I prefer the controlpanel Webmin. (I do NOT want crappy bloated CPanel)

Price: $119.95/mo

Can anyone beat this price?

If you don't mind if it is european datacenter take a look at hetzner.de
http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/pro...produktmatrix/
plus http://www.platinumservermanagement.com/ for management

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2010, 03:03 AM

Yellowfiber is your man.

alias · 05-16-2010, 03:08 AM

Just order the fucking server.

nyllover · 05-16-2010, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by alias

Just order the fucking server.

Agree. It's a great offer... just get it and start making money with it...

cemtex · 05-16-2010, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by adultish

If you don't mind if it is european datacenter take a look at hetzner.de
http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/pro...produktmatrix/
plus http://www.platinumservermanagement.com/ for management

I thought that hetzner did not allow adult related content ?

Emil · 05-18-2010, 05:55 AM

For all of you that wanted to know the host, it's http://www.makosolutions.com/

I wouldn't put anything important there, they seem to be a bit slow to answer sales-mails and for me it's a red flag... (that I ignored this time)

Klen · 05-18-2010, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil

For all of you that wanted to know the host, it's http://www.makosolutions.com/

I wouldn't put anything important there, they seem to be a bit slow to answer sales-mails and for me it's a red flag... (that I ignored this time)

Looks like they cheating somehow because they are hosted on liquid web which doesn't have cheap prices.

NETBilling-Andy · 05-18-2010, 09:49 AM

Hi Emil - your current pricing is very low for sure. We can offer you a fully managed solution like this:

Intel X3430 Quad Core
8GB DDR3 RAM
2 X 1TB SATA II in Raid 1
10Mbps bandwidth

$285/mo

Shoot me an email if you're interested.

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