BP is threatening to have anyone filming oil arrested my fam is out making videos here is iphone pic

[Fletch XXX]

Here is what they dont want you to see this is a screengrab from iphone video my cousin made yesterday on his boat, he is facebooking the videos so I cannot share here but this shows how destroyed our bayous are now

http://www.ch33rs.com/pics/bp-oil-spill.html

[ProG]

New pictures posted on The Big Picture today.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by ProG

New pictures posted on The Big Picture today.

some of those are on Grand Isle, I spent summers there every summer as kid growing up, grew up swimming in these waters and the beahces are now covered in oil.

I am without words, my family has lived in these areas and made their living from these waters since before this was called the "United States.

There is no way to measure my anger and sadness at this time.

[brassmonkey]

can lightning ignite that shit

[Fletch XXX]

some of these are not far from us



I grew up swimming in barataria bay

[Fletch XXX]

Grew up spending summers on beaches of grand Isle, spent a month of each summer there growing up, now its covered in oil

[96ukssob]

thats really fucked up

[J. Falcon]

Fuck them, stick it to them.

[epitome]

Boycott BP forever...this shit is getting ridiculous!

[BestXXXPorn]

I just learned today that the oil companies are only liable for damages caused to everyone UP TO $75M ... the government covers the rest...

Apparently there's an $0.08 tax on every barrel to cover it and there's currently about $1B in the fund...

That's fucking BS no wonder they didn't install the safety valve thing... They don't have to face the full consequences of a disaster!

The $0.08 tax should go away and oil companies should be fully liable for every fucking cent... If they were fully liable I guarantee you they would have put that valve in... too big of a risk NOT to but if you only have to be liable for a fraction of the damages what's the incentive to pay the extra cost up front?

[Fletch XXX]

another from the bay near us

baby heron dying

[Ethersync]

Really, horrible. I hope all responsible get boycotted and sued into oblivion.

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

Originally Posted by ProG

New pictures posted on The Big Picture today.

WOW! Just WOW!
SO Sad.

[Jdoughs]

Saying this is sad, or an outrage and then jumping into your oil powered vehicle, to get to your gas heated, and oil product based home, is kind of silly. We pay for this product, we consume more and more of it everyday, we demand the product and we even cry for it to be cheaper -> WE DID THIS.

BP didnt set out that week to wreck a ecosystem (yes it did happen) but they were only answering OUR supply and demand craze.

The blame for this lies on ALL OF US.

To think any different is foolish.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Saying this is sad, or an outrage and then jumping into your oil powered vehicle, to get to your gas heated, and oil product based home, is kind of silly. We pay for this product, we consume more and more of it everyday, we demand the product and we even cry for it to be cheaper -> WE DID THIS.

BP didnt set out that week to wreck a ecosystem (yes it did happen) but they were only answering OUR supply and demand craze.

The blame for this lies on ALL OF US.

To think any different is foolish.

Why, that's just crazy talk!

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

The blame for this lies on ALL OF US.

claiming "safety vales are too expensive" = who gets the blame.

Shell voluntarily installs backupsafety valves that BP claims are too expensive to install on its rigs. Do not confuse real blame with your simplistic view.

We are not responsible, the company that fights safety rgulations and send home safety test crews 11 hours early before doing its tests the day the explosion occured is who is to blame.

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

claiming "safety vales are too expensive" = who gets the blame.

Shell voluntarily installs backupsafety valves that BP claims are too expensive to install on its rigs. Do not confuse real blame with your simplistic view.

We are not responsible, the company that fights safety rgulations and send home safety test crews 11 hours early before doing its tests the day the explosion occured is who is to blame.

Right, ok.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Saying this is sad, or an outrage and then jumping into your oil powered vehicle, to get to your gas heated, and oil product based home, is kind of silly.

No, actually it is not silly at all. Not even kind of. If you want to go back to the stone age and live in a cave please do so.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Saying this is sad, or an outrage and then jumping into your oil powered vehicle, to get to your gas heated, and oil product based home, is kind of silly. We pay for this product, we consume more and more of it everyday, we demand the product and we even cry for it to be cheaper -> WE DID THIS.

I'd go along with you if oil was not one of the most profitable industries in the world ... Exxon has posted record corporate earnings many times.

We demand it be cheaper but we don't get it cheaper. The reality is that these companies try to squeeze every bit of profit out of a dollar that they can.

Corporate and social responsibility should come into play and they did not.

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

No, actually it is not silly at all. Not even kind of. If you want to go back to the stone age and live in a cave please do so.

I didn't say any of us should go back to the stoneage, I said we are all to blame for incidents like this as we demand the oil.

99% of us drive cars, buy oil based products, and bitch and complain up and down about the costs of them.

Would people have bitched last year if gas/oil prices spiked to add safety features to said rigs, YES I'm certain they sure would have.

Hindsight is always 20-20, but because we want cheap fuels and use said fuels, the responsibility lies just as much on us as it does them.

Should they be responsible for clean up efforts? OF COURSE they should, but to sit here in our 40k cars, and our petroleum product filled lives, pointing fingers is just like I said, silly.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Here is what they dont want you to see this is a screengrab from iphone video my cousin made yesterday on his boat, he is facebooking the videos so I cannot share here but this shows how destroyed our bayous are now

http://www.ch33rs.com/pics/bp-oil-spill.html

what exactly would people be arrested for?

[Fletch XXX]

for the record this thread had nothing to do with finger pointing or blame.

BP is threatening to have people filming oil arrested so my family (now their business is stopped no tourists coming in or shrimp boats out) they are using those boats to go film the oil.

Argue about blame all you want but that wasnt what this tthread was about, its about showing you amateur photos taken while risking being arrested for being in public waters.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

what exactly would people be arrested for?

Google search news for "BP arrest anyone"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Coast Guard is supporting it, any civilian in a place they are restricted can be arrested, simple as that. During state of emergency you can be arrested for interfering etc... they will make up something.

During hurricanes you can be arrested for going out of your home after 6pm during state of emergency, look up Martial law. They dont even have top declare martial law to instill similar arrest procedures.

As it is you cant go onto oil covered beaches without BP escorts.

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

I just learned today that the oil companies are only liable for damages caused to everyone UP TO $75M ... the government covers the rest...

Apparently there's an $0.08 tax on every barrel to cover it and there's currently about $1B in the fund...

That's fucking BS no wonder they didn't install the safety valve thing... They don't have to face the full consequences of a disaster!

The $0.08 tax should go away and oil companies should be fully liable for every fucking cent... If they were fully liable I guarantee you they would have put that valve in... too big of a risk NOT to but if you only have to be liable for a fraction of the damages what's the incentive to pay the extra cost up front?

I think BP has publicly stated they aren't going to hold the government to the 75 million cap, they plan on paying for the whole thing themselves. I guess we'll see shortly if they do or not.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

some of those are on Grand Isle, I spent summers there every summer as kid growing up, grew up swimming in these waters and the beahces are now covered in oil.

I am without words, my family has lived in these areas and made their living from these waters since before this was called the "United States.

There is no way to measure my anger and sadness at this time.

I spent summers down there every year as a kid. I was planning on renting a camp down there this summer but I guess not now.

We should shut down the state boarders and turn off the oil till the Fed Govt steps up and fixes this and also pays us our fair share of royalties.

What i think is total bullshit is that states like Florida and California don't drill for oil off their coasts but they don't pay extra fees either. They shouldn't have their cake and eat it too. If you don't want to drill fine, then you pay a 10% surcharge to the states that do drill. Why in the hell should we drill and send them our oil/gas and we have to suffer the consequences of drilling (destroying the cost from both erosion and now oil spills) where as Florida and California has none of those risks AND they get the oil for the same price we do. Fuck that. You have a choice. Drill or not. If not, then you pay a 10% surcharge to the state that produced the oil. If we send oil to Florida they pay 10% surcharge that goes back directly to LA to spend on dealing with the coastal erosion, oil spills, etc... for producing it here. Either play or pay or you don't get the oil.

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Argue about blame all you want but that wasnt what this tthread was about, its about showing you amateur photos taken while risking being arrested for being in public waters.

Tourists have no business out there in the oil slick filming or taking amateur photos.

Nor do they have any business 'visiting' the islands that once were public places. These are disaster ridden areas, and there is nothing gained by having civilians allowed to visit them.

From what I've read many of the islands and areas are only accessible with a BP or government employee escorts (makes total sense to me).

Do you really think you should be allowed to travel through the middle of this disaster to document things? It's a dangerous area with an unfolding tragedy happening right now. I see absolutely no reason to let anyone go there except for actual rescue and clean up crews. No need for a bunch of 'good ole boys' running around in their boats/bermuda shorts taking photos.

[Babaganoosh]

Damn, I thought Boneprone was threatening to have people arrested.

[ProG]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

BP didnt set out that week to wreck a ecosystem (yes it did happen) but they were only answering OUR supply and demand craze.

Actually in a way, they did set out to destroy an ecosystem. After the leak started their reaction was not "we need to stop the leak asap" it was "how do we salvage this well". They spent a month coming up with half assed ideas to try and collect oil from the leak instead of just plugging it.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

From what I've read many of the islands and areas are only accessible with a BP or government employee escorts (makes total sense to me).

umm they are not just threatening civilians, any "journalist" or "reporter"

So rephrase your question to "do you think journalists should be able to cover this disaster?"

yes. and to quote my cousin "come fucking arrest us" he is making videos of miles and miles of him in boat in oil. and its great, this is what America is all about. Freedom of press, but you dont like that freedom.

you just want to argue and this conversation serves no real purpose.

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by ProG

Actually in a way, they did set out to destroy an ecosystem. After the leak started their reaction was not "we need to stop the leak asap" it was "how do we salvage this well". They spent a month coming up with half assed ideas to try and collect oil from the leak instead of just plugging it.

If they did indeed spend the 1st part of the month thinking that, then what did they do with the other half? It's still not plugged, its not like they just decided to 'not plug' it so they could still try to profit off it, they do not know how to plug it.

Again it's not because they don't want to plug it, they just do not have the technology to do so. They will be trying another solution this week, but it's not one they've been hiding in their backpocket til the last minute while they try to save face.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

No need for a bunch of 'good ole boys' running around in their boats/bermuda shorts taking photos.

this is also the funny part, you realize the gov and BP are paying "good ole boys" to use their shrimp boats to help, right? they want you to help but not make videos....

of course you did LOL

[will76]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Saying this is sad, or an outrage and then jumping into your oil powered vehicle, to get to your gas heated, and oil product based home, is kind of silly. We pay for this product, we consume more and more of it everyday, we demand the product and we even cry for it to be cheaper

I agree 100%

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

BP didnt set out that week to wreck a ecosystem (yes it did happen) but they were only answering OUR supply and demand craze.

The blame for this lies on ALL OF US.

To think any different is foolish.

It's foolish to think this could NOT have been prevented. If BP wouldn't have been so greedy and they would have installed the proper safety measures this likely wouldn't have happened. For example. Their "top hat" and other containment devices they tried to use they had to make first. Why didn't they have shit like that already created and on stand by? Why didn't they have a plan B, C or Plan A for that matter. They failed to put the safety devices in place because they were greedy and they failed to have stand by fixes in place. Instead of taking a week to build the shit they would have had it made and ready to use.

It is BP's greed that is more to blame then us consuming oil. Sure we should all push to not use oil, but even if we found alternative entergy for cars and to power our homes, there is still a big need for oil. I don't know if we could ever get 100% off of oil because so it is used to create so many things. Even if we were off of oil 90% we still would need Oil rigs for the other 10%, as long as we need oil rigs, we need oil companies to be RESPONSIBLE and not cut corners trying be greedy. 10Billion in profits wasn't enough they had to cut corners to make more money

[dyna mo]

Fletch, what the local word on how to handle a clean up? i've read that the clean up after the valdez spill was just as harmful to the sea shores and such as the actual oil spill.

some scientist believe leaving it alone would of been just as effective a clean up but with out any added damage.

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

umm they are not just threatening civilians, any "journalist" or "reporter"

So rephrase your question to "do you think journalists should be able to cover this disaster?"

yes. and to quote my cousin "come fucking arrest us" he is making videos of miles and miles of him in boat in oil. and its great, this is what America is all about. Freedom of press, but you dont like that freedom.

you just want to argue and this conversation serves no real purpose.

You are right, lets fill the beaches with tourists, journalists, reporters, and your cousins.

That will solve things, fuck scientists, geologists, and drilling specialists and maybe some police/military to make sure the above can function and find an answer.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Fletch, what the local word on how to handle a clean up? i've read that the clean up after the valdez spill was just as harmful to the sea shores and such as the actual oil spill.

some scientist believe leaving it alone would of been just as effective a clean up but with out any added damage.

thousands of media reports backed with facts that show the oil dispersants are just as bad as the oil, everything is dead.

Ive seen vids of 24+ miles of dead marsh. Everything is dying, it is horrible.

[Cyber Fucker]

They can't forbid filming anyone. Their management should be in jail at first.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

You are right, lets fill the beaches with tourists, journalists, reporters, and your cousins.

as i said you just want to argue

my family has worked for over 100 years to have their business here and then all of a sudden it is come to a hault and you think we will stand by and told we cannot film what is happening?

LOL

nowhere did I say we need tourists at this time, but when you stop a mans business you expect him to just stay inside and not look out the window and take a pic? THIS IS OUR FUCKING BACKYARD MAN! WE LIVE ON THE BAYOU, get it through your head.

Its easy to sit far away being armchair judge like you, but when its in your backyard then come talk to me.

[TurboAngel]

Those pics are sooooooo sad.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

thousands of media reports backed with facts that show the oil dispersants are just as bad as the oil, everything is dead.

Ive seen vids of 24+ miles of dead marsh. Everything is dying, it is horrible.

i mean the actual shoreline/coast. are there plans to *clean* those areas?

[ProG]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i mean the actual shoreline/coast. are there plans to *clean* those areas?

I think it would be absurd to make plans to clean at this point when the oil is still flowing from the leak. This is only the first of many many oil covered months ahead.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by will76

I spent summers down there every year as a kid. I was planning on renting a camp down there this summer but I guess not now.

nice, we mustve had similar lives growing up in NOLA and spending summers on Grand Isle. Still have tons of family there, its so sad seeing it covered in oil and all the life on the beaches dying.

The memories of that place when we were young will never be the same, as it is the beach itself is nowhere near what it was when we were coming up, but theyve been rbuilding it and I too was goingt o take my little girl and wife there for the first time this summer.

It will be one of my lifes regrets that both of them could not see grand isle before the oil. People who are no from here and grow up the way we do living on the water just never will understand. These waters are all we have...

/tears

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

as i said you just want to argue

my family has worked for over 100 years to have their business here and then all of a sudden it is come to a hault and you think we will stand by and told we cannot film what is happening?

LOL

nowhere did I say we need tourists at this time, but when you stop a mans business you expect him to just stay inside and not look out the window and take a pic? THIS IS OUR FUCKING BACKYARD MAN! WE LIVE ON THE BAYOU, get it through your head.

Its easy to sit far away being armchair judge like you, but when its in your backyard then come talk to me.

You are completely missing my point. You are too hung up on being in the drama then the solution.

My only point is bitching about it, pointing fingers, and stirring up drama is getting NOBODY anywhere.

[cherrylula]

The chemicals they spray to make the oil sink are as bad as the oil itself as well.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

You are completely missing my point. You are too hung up on being in the drama then the solution.

My only point is bitching about it, pointing fingers, and stirring up drama is getting NOBODY anywhere.

AWARENESS, fwiw

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

You are completely missing my point. You are too hung up on being in the drama then the solution.

My only point is bitching about it, pointing fingers, and stirring up drama is getting NOBODY anywhere.

umm hello, i was posting about media coverage/stopping citizens/reporters from filming of this event and sharing photos, YOU and NO ONE ELSE came in and started this stuff about "blame"

you started the blame game no one else. I wasnt bitching about it, pointing any fingers or stirring drama, that was ALL YOU LOL

[seeandsee]

fucking money will kill us all, just money money money

[Cyber Fucker]

I think this music video I had in my head is very "current".

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Saying this is sad, or an outrage and then jumping into your oil powered vehicle, to get to your gas heated, and oil product based home, is kind of silly. We pay for this product, we consume more and more of it everyday, we demand the product and we even cry for it to be cheaper -> WE DID THIS.

We were doing all that long before the spill. A spill isn't necessary for us to be able to do any of that.

BP didnt set out that week to wreck a ecosystem (yes it did happen) but they were only answering OUR supply and demand craze.

The blame for this lies on ALL OF US.

To think any different is foolish.

Drill baby Drill!

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

umm hello, i was posting about media coverage/stopping citizens/reporters from filming of this event and sharing photos, YOU and NO ONE ELSE came in and started this stuff about "blame"

you started the blame game no one else. I wasnt bitching about it, pointing any fingers or stirring drama, that was ALL YOU LOL

Yeah, I started this thread in an attempt to burn BP a new asshole.

Check it, you'll see my name up top as OP.

Again, you and your 'cousins' have no business out there in boats to make people look bad. If you are going to help then go HELP, making the clean up crews, and BP workers look bad IS NOT HELPING. Posting threads about them 'arresting' people for being where they shouldn't be, isn't helping.

Feel free to quote me and tell me I dont know what Im talking about, and that I'm just posting to argue.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Here is what they dont want you to see this is a screengrab from iphone video my cousin made yesterday on his boat, he is facebooking the videos so I cannot share here but this shows how destroyed our bayous are now

http://www.ch33rs.com/pics/bp-oil-spill.html

Hmm...I am seeing such scenes reported daily upon multiple media outlets as well as even my local news. I have not heard any major media outlets...or minor media outlets complain about not being allowed to photograph or cover the event.