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VHNet · 05-25-2010, 08:42 PM

http://returnmyjedi.com/2010/05/split-test-that-shit/

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fatfoo · 05-25-2010, 09:08 PM

You know how the Jedi can raise ships, structures and physical objects by moving their hand? I think it can't be done it in real life. However, by moving your hand in real life you can control other people who will move physical objects with physical labour - which is even more powerful.

LoveSandra · 05-25-2010, 10:03 PM

bullshit

VHNet · 05-26-2010, 04:25 AM

Yeah, actually, that's my week 6 article - raising ships, buildings, etc.

Caligari · 05-26-2010, 06:30 AM

good article, thanks for posting this-

Stef. · 05-26-2010, 06:30 AM

lol !!! i really like the fatfoo reply. that douche is a very skilled writer

rowan · 05-26-2010, 08:00 AM

My only concern with your method of splitting (meta refresh/redirect) is that it could affect your SE rankings. I think you'd be better off creating an array of filenames and include()ing a random one - that way the page and site structure remains identical, only the content changes (slightly)

VHNet · 05-26-2010, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

My only concern with your method of splitting (meta refresh/redirect) is that it could affect your SE rankings. I think you'd be better off creating an array of filenames and include()ing a random one - that way the page and site structure remains identical, only the content changes (slightly)

Fair enough concern, and there ARE paid applications that will negate the SE problem - I just wanted to show an easy & free way of doing so. Just google "split test software" - lots of professional crap out there (in my opinion, only necessary if you're doing huge numbers of pages and have layers of management to answer to).

That's actually a good idea that I hadn't thought of in the past (when you're so used to doing something one way, you kind of get tunnel vision). I'll add it in a bit - with some code.

Thanks!

Brent 3dSexCash · 05-26-2010, 09:33 AM

Great Read! Thank you.

The Porn Nerd · 05-26-2010, 09:38 AM

I'm getting a code written for me to A/B (or 'split') testing from Woj. To begin, it'll be a simple A/B script, sort of like how you outlined, but more PHP-based. Yay for testing!!!

VHNet · 05-26-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

I'm getting a code written for me to A/B (or 'split') testing from Woj. To begin, it'll be a simple A/B script, sort of like how you outlined, but more PHP-based. Yay for testing!!!

If you have any questions on analyzing the data, feel free to contact me.

The Porn Nerd · 05-26-2010, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VHNet

If you have any questions on analyzing the data, feel free to contact me.

Thanks man!! I like jedis.

Jarmusch · 05-26-2010, 01:34 PM

Nah I just looked at my table, there's no money on it.

VHNet · 05-26-2010, 03:07 PM

VHNet · 05-27-2010, 02:50 PM

UPDATE: I added a simple PHP code that uses the PHP Include function instead of the metarefresh. Should help with the Search Engine concerns.

Hope this helps

P.S. finishing another article tonight.

D Ghost · 05-27-2010, 02:58 PM

good info, always a good idea

NetHorse · 05-27-2010, 03:37 PM

Nice thanks for the PHP script. When I tweak my sites I definitely need to be more patient. I change something and if I don't see results I start switching it after only a couple hours.

I'll try your idea and leave it for a week!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo

You know how the Jedi can raise ships, structures and physical objects by moving their hand? I think it can't be done it in real life. However, by moving your hand in real life you can control other people who will move physical objects with physical labour - which is even more powerful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveSandra

bullshit

You guys are both fucking idiots....Seriously..

VHNet · 05-27-2010, 07:50 PM

A week is about average. It really depends on a few things : the quality and quantity of your traffic...if you're buying shitting traffic, you'll undoubtedly get shitty results.

I'll admit though that I've had times where I'll change something out after just a day because the numbers are SO BAD on the second page that a week won't do shit.

You pretty much just want to give the second page a chance to prove that the improvement (or decrease) in sales is of Statistical Significance - that it wasn't by chance or some outside unpredictable factor...that it truly is better, or worse. Sometimes that's a day, sometimes it really takes a week (or more).

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djswivle · 05-27-2010, 10:15 PM

so last year

VHNet · 05-28-2010, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by djswivle

so last year

I'm not sure that split testing can be considered a trend...it's a practice that successful marketers have been using pretty much since the beginning of marketing.

Here's an advocate:

bbobby86 · 05-28-2010, 06:16 AM

nice find...

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	My only concern with your method of splitting (meta refresh/redirect) is that it could affect your SE rankings. I think you'd be better off creating an array of filenames and include()ing a random one - that way the page and site structure remains identical, only the content changes (slightly)

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VHNet Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 386	UPDATE: I added a simple PHP code that uses the PHP Include function instead of the metarefresh. Should help with the Search Engine concerns. Hope this helps P.S. finishing another article tonight. __________________ Bringing mainstream marketing to the Adult Industry ICQ: 221976033

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VHNet Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 386	A week is about average. It really depends on a few things : the quality and quantity of your traffic...if you're buying shitting traffic, you'll undoubtedly get shitty results. I'll admit though that I've had times where I'll change something out after just a day because the numbers are SO BAD on the second page that a week won't do shit. You pretty much just want to give the second page a chance to prove that the improvement (or decrease) in sales is of Statistical Significance - that it wasn't by chance or some outside unpredictable factor...that it truly is better, or worse. Sometimes that's a day, sometimes it really takes a week (or more). __________________ Bringing mainstream marketing to the Adult Industry ICQ: 221976033

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