Have up to 200 joins per day to move around...right now

[Phoenix]

thats right...there are still lots of people willing to pay for quality porn

if you have pps....thats pay per sign up.....not revshare

then be in touch

new sites....get in touch
new tours...get in touch

whats hot right now are the exgf sites...and the hackedbook type sites

but also need the milf....tranny....hot teens etc etc

these guys need it all.

so be in touch

cheers

[LoveSandra]

bump bump

[HookUPcom]

I got a good home for those...

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[fatfoo]

200 joins per day is a big amount. Congratulations, Phoenix. Good luck.

[Jack Sparrow]

If you can check your mobile traffic, ive got just the right thing for you: http://www.imobileporn.com (although i just scrolled up and saw you are only into pps)..

Hit me up to discuss anyway if you like.

[Niktamer]

i got at least 100 sales to move around aswell, if someone got a secret weapon.

[hypedough]

Hit me up, we're doing very well right now in the EXGF market.

[Robbie]

Can I ask a question...If these are all real joins (people clicking on a link and joining the site) and not just a bunch of x-sells...then why on Earth aren't you wanting revshare? Especially if you are going to carefully choose which paysite to "promote" (again, if it's NOT x-sells)

If it is just x-sells then just ignore my question since it's then irrelevant. (and no, I'm not attacking x-sells, I'm just asking about these "joins" since nobody can force other human beings to join anything)

[Phoenix]

still looking

got some people to fill for still

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Can I ask a question...If these are all real joins (people clicking on a link and joining the site) and not just a bunch of x-sells...then why on Earth aren't you wanting revshare? Especially if you are going to carefully choose which paysite to "promote" (again, if it's NOT x-sells)

If it is just x-sells then just ignore my question since it's then irrelevant. (and no, I'm not attacking x-sells, I'm just asking about these "joins" since nobody can force other human beings to join anything)

its the webmasters choice i guess.

your sites are good for retention? you should be able to offer a pps...even if its not 100 like the cross sale sites.
people will take a pps...and if you truly retain well enough...you will make more money by paying out up front

[selena]

Can I please have an address to drop you a line at? My icq isn't letting me add anyone new at the moment.



Edit: Never mind, I smacked it and made it work. Message sent.

[Adam X]

Its chat traffic correct?

We've gone over this before.. this stuff comes from various guys across the planet, Philippines? and even if it converts.. I find most members are NOT even logging into the members area.. that raises a red flag right away.

Whats the source of the traffic these days Phoenix? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[LickMyBalls]

Originally Posted by Adam X

Its chat traffic correct?

We've gone over this before.. this stuff comes from various guys across the planet, Philippines? and even if it converts.. I find most members are NOT even logging into the members area.. that raises a red flag right away.

Whats the source of the traffic these days Phoenix? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Perhaps you missed it. He said "there are still lots of people willing to pay for quality porn." With that in mind, it can't possibly be chat traffic.

I have noticed a trend of this exact same topic being started by Phoenix ever more frequently. Which tells me that whomever he's sending the traffic to ain't signing up for the following period.

And he's pretty cocky. Hopefully we don't have another BradM on our hands.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by LickMyBalls

Perhaps you missed it. He said "there are still lots of people willing to pay for quality porn." With that in mind, it can't possibly be chat traffic.

I have noticed a trend of this exact same topic being started by Phoenix ever more frequently. Which tells me that whomever he's sending the traffic to ain't signing up for the following period.

And he's pretty cocky. Hopefully we don't have another BradM on our hands.

go back under your bridge

i look for places to send to because i represent many people...and as such they need many many many places to send to.

most places i deal with for years at a time...you know nothing..this is supposed to be a board for business...what do you do? i sure as fuck know you dont work for ccbill with your attitude here
let us know how the fishing is under your bridge

[Brent 3dSexCash]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

still looking

got some people to fill for still

Our Interactive adapter kit is selling like crazy.

Works with videos, games, cams... Works and comes with Fleshlight

You make money on hardware and subscriptions with every sale.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Adam X

Its chat traffic correct?

We've gone over this before.. this stuff comes from various guys across the planet, Philippines? and even if it converts.. I find most members are NOT even logging into the members area.. that raises a red flag right away.

Whats the source of the traffic these days Phoenix? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

you and i have spoken correct

too bad you cant remember any of it

chat traffic, i dont have any, ive always stayed away from it

good luck to you

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

its the webmasters choice i guess.

your sites are good for retention? you should be able to offer a pps...even if its not 100 like the cross sale sites.
people will take a pps...and if you truly retain well enough...you will make more money by paying out up front

We do PPS as well as revshare...but I think last time you posted something like this the rate was way too high for someone like me to compete with. Our PPS is $25. I use common sense with my PPS. A membership cost $29.99
$25 plus the biller processing fee and I'm already losing money on an initial sale (not to mention that we shoot our own content, our hosting costs, 2257 costs, talent costs, etc., etc. etc.), so I can't offer any kind of suicidal crazy ass rates. Are they still looking for those $45 and up PPS?

They'd still make more money with me going revshare over time. Just sayin...If they will do $25 PPS (which I'm sure you're laughing at) then I'm game. But you're gonna have to show me it's NOT x-sells. If it's x-sells I'll pay no more than $12 (again you're probably laughing at me)

But since I won't be "re-monetizing" these "joins" I can't afford to do anything that doesn't make rock solid business sense based on my membership cost of $29.99

[fuzebox]

Robbie, it goes both ways. If the paysite can monetize the rebills then they can also afford a higher PPS. Pay per signup is popular for a reason, people want their money and they want it fast, and don't want to have to worry about retention, or a company going under down the road... Maybe they have high overhead and need the money back quick to pay the expenses involved in generating those sales.

Also it's a lot easier to push volume joins to a new product, which is why Brad is always shopping around for new sponsors with new sites... Popping out his own new exclusive paysites every few months would be time consuming, costly, and obviously isn't what his clients core business is (which is generating leads for the guys who like to run paysites).

I feel ya, I wouldn't pay a PPS over $25 either, but some companies can and those are the guys that attract the volume these days.

[bbobby86]

bravo bravo...

[Adam X]

if it was mail traffic why didnt you just respond with that? Inquiring minds wanna know.

In this case, you respond to me via icq like I just fucked you over .. I simply asked a question.

Now that you hit me on icq I looked out our chat history... I'm fully refreshed with our conversations...

Bcuz you told me you were gonna send to a teencash site.. then never did.
faisel acct, signed up march 26, 2010, then checked in on the 13th of May.. but acct shows only 1 click... nothing else.

I dont mean to tarnish your efforts here, if its not chat traffic thats all you had to say..
Like I said, at the same time I had one other guy promising big signups and he sent chat traffic guys .. regardless, what happened to your sender? oh well

[Phoenix]

robbie and fuzebox
sometimes they do take lower pps...ill float both your stuff to them

i think they liked your sites before www.fuzebucks.com sites are hot..designs are good...at times..conversions can over weigh higher payouts

its all about money at the end of the day

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Adam X

if it was mail traffic why didnt you just respond with that? Inquiring minds wanna know.

In this case, you respond to me via icq like I just fucked you over .. I simply asked a question.

Now that you hit me on icq I looked out our chat history... I'm fully refreshed with our conversations...

Bcuz you told me you were gonna send to a teencash site.. then never did.
faisel acct, signed up march 26, 2010, then checked in on the 13th of May.. but acct shows only 1 click... nothing else.

I dont mean to tarnish your efforts here, if its not chat traffic thats all you had to say..
Like I said, at the same time I had one other guy promising big signups and he sent chat traffic guys .. regardless, what happened to your sender? oh well

sorry they never sent?

is that what you are after?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Robbie, it goes both ways. If the paysite can monetize the rebills then they can also afford a higher PPS. Pay per signup is popular for a reason, people want their money and they want it fast, and don't want to have to worry about retention, or a company going under down the road... Maybe they have high overhead and need the money back quick to pay the expenses involved in generating those sales.

Also it's a lot easier to push volume joins to a new product, which is why Brad is always shopping around for new sponsors with new sites... Popping out his own new exclusive paysites every few months would be time consuming, costly, and obviously isn't what his clients core business is (which is generating leads for the guys who like to run paysites).

I feel ya, I wouldn't pay a PPS over $25 either, but some companies can and those are the guys that attract the volume these days.

Yeah, that was my point. Since I'm not gonna x-sell the x-sell I really have no way to pay those high rates to these kinda deals. I get offers all the time in the $15 to $17 range to buy x-sells...but I'm just not gonna do it. Too much desperation out there right now and I don't want to buy a "join" that's already been x-sold 5 times. I'll lose my ass in the end on that kind of deal (Not saying that is the kind involved here, I'm just talking risk management for "just in case")

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

robbie and fuzebox
sometimes they do take lower pps...ill float both your stuff to them

i think they liked your sites before www.fuzebucks.com sites are hot..designs are good...at times..conversions can over weigh higher payouts

its all about money at the end of the day

Thank you sir. Like I said, I'm sure they'll laugh at me if other guys are willing to pay twice that much. But maybe they'll throw us little guys a bone too.

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

thats right...there are still lots of people willing to pay for quality porn

if you have pps....thats pay per sign up.....not revshare

then be in touch

new sites....get in touch
new tours...get in touch

whats hot right now are the exgf sites...and the hackedbook type sites

but also need the milf....tranny....hot teens etc etc

these guys need it all.

so be in touch

cheers

Hit me up when you get a chance, I want to run something across your way.
e-mail below.

Thanks

[Adam X]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

sorry they never sent?

is that what you are after?

well, sure why not.. now that we're both up to speed with this acct.
I mean we did chat many times and you guys signed up @ teencash

Like I said before, if all goes well, we'll pay ya more and go the distance.

[Jayvis]

I see what Adam is saying and no disrespect but we've talked multiple times at length and never saw anything in return... as an affiliate manager you question whether its me or you or a little bit of both?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Jayvis

I see what Adam is saying and no disrespect but we've talked multiple times at length and never saw anything in return... as an affiliate manager you question whether its me or you or a little bit of both?

i think with your setup i was unable to make money

like the payout was too low


again..its all about money at the end of the day

i am happy to try and get people to the front of the line

to be honest...when i make threads like this.....only 1-2 sites get put into the mix....the ones still performing...they stay where they are....so...you know put on your best game face and try to get noticed

[The Porn Nerd]

Tsk Tsk Tsk. If you have 200 Joins to "move around" then the ONLY site you should be promoting is Fellucia Blow.





Tsk tsk tsk. And you call yourself a businessman!

[Jayvis]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

i think with your setup i was unable to make money

like the payout was too low

Yeah I can't go any higher than $5 per free but no hard feelings, best of luck buddy.

[myjah]

Added you to ICQ, with 60 sites across all our programs, I'm sure we have something you could send to successfully. Hit me back when you have a chance.

[skrog]

You should send your Tranny traffic towards http://www.tranny.com/

[ShellyCrash]

Tried hitting you up on ICQ- check our Swurve

Fresh new Hook-Up / Casual Dating site

Pay Per Sale is on a sliding scale, starts at $35 goes up to $55 per join.

Swurve Affiliate Program

Hot me up on ICQ if ya wanna chat

[Newworld]

bump bump

[WebCashMaker]

We have the hackedbook type sites

[mynameisjim]

If you have amateur traffic we have some really good converting sites, including Broke Amateurs.

We can do PPS in the $30 range if the joins are real.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Tsk tsk tsk. And you call yourself a businessman!

Tsk tsk tsk... you call that a cock?......





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