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Old 05-30-2010, 08:32 AM   #51
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Offer them $2k on the phone, then when they come in say you changed your mind and it's $1k. Trust me, they'll jump for you. If not, pick up the phone and call the next girl.
That's a great way to fuck up you reputation. I see all kinds of problems that can result in doing this. Sure, you'll snag a model here & there but in the long run - bad idea. It's always best to be honest & up front with people if you have a long term business strategy
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Offer them $2k on the phone, then when they come in say you changed your mind and it's $1k. Trust me, they'll jump for you. If not, pick up the phone and call the next girl.

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That's a great way to fuck up you reputation. I see all kinds of problems that can result in doing this. Sure, you'll snag a model here & there but in the long run - bad idea. It's always best to be honest & up front with people if you have a long term business strategy
I thought Rochard's post was so outrageously stupid, he was actually being sarcastic or ironic or something.
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In this market I'm glad to get even that. I ain't proud. :D
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:59 AM   #54
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So being able to afford something and then having it make business sense is two different things
Great quote which applies to almost everything... I hate it when people make comments about what people can and can't afford.
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Except for one factor...if the girl doesn't make you one thin dime more.

I'd say pay anyone who can actually make sales for you based on her being in the scene a good fair price. If a girl has a big following and can bring in more money by her very presence then hell yeah.

In this day and age of piracy and every one of these girls being fucked in the ass in full scenes available for free everywhere...I simply wouldn't see paying a girl more money than she would be worth to my business.

Remember...everything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Right now content is so devalued from all this piracy and full member site rips that it would be a tough call to go paying 2 thousand dollars for a boy/girl scene.

Hell, it's almost to the point where you lose money if you pay them ONE dollar.

Not saying the girls aren't worth it in the talent and looks dept. I'm just saying are they worth it in the end result when the sales are added up, or would you make more profit using a super hot girl who doesn't charge as much.

EDIT: In other words it has nothing to do with being able to "afford" the girl. I can afford to rent a mansion for a few thousand dollars a day to shoot CM in. It would look GREAT! And everybody would slap me on the back and say how good it is. But it wouldn't make ONE more sale for me. Not one. So being able to afford something and then having it make business sense is two different things
Realistic, and well said. Your comment Robbie in your above 3d paragraph, i.e., --"In this day and age of piracy and every one of these girls being fucked in the ass in full scenes available for free everywhere.." is definitely important for us to realize.

Maybe some "Agents" like it when girls keep their rates high?
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Jenna Haze is quite known and hot, isn't she? So 3k for a day of her pussy drilling seems to be not that much... but well, I'm not a specialist and I might be wrong, guys above me know much more about this business for sure. :D
Is the 3K for the entire day, or just a girl/boy scene?
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Plenty of hot girls working for $700 - $800 here. SCrew the over priced big names. You can see free content of them everywhere. Why would anyone pay those rates. Not anymore. 5 years from now those high priced whores will be broke.
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Is the 3K for the entire day, or just a girl/boy scene?
I'm sure it's just one scene. I don't think Cyber Fucker worded that correctly or maybe isn't aware of how it usually works. Hell, I'd pay her 3 grand in a heartbeat if I had an entire day. I'd get 5 b/g scenes, one g/g, one solo, and 10,000 pics...and I'd fuck her myself. lol
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Well put, Robbie. I honestly don't know how you guys afford to keep shooting. I can find any scene I want with about 5 minutes effort and then d/l it for free (of course, I don't do that but you know what I mean). The only thing I can see keeping the porn biz going is that guys, being the pervs we are, will always want to shoot porn, even if we lose money doing it. Hell, I shot girls (pros and amateurs) in the Tampa/St. Pete area for years and never released a bit of it. I just did it because I like doing it and it gets me off to pay a girl to do shit like that. So I guess no matter how bad it gets, some guys will still shoot porn. But I know that it must be really tough for you pros who have long gotten past the thrill of getting a girl to take a dick on camera and do it only to pay the bills.

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must be really tough for you pros who have long gotten past the thrill of getting a girl to take a dick on camera.
Most of the people shooting don't get excited by it.

Me? I'm one of those guys who NEVER gets tired of it. I love what I do. Started shooting content in 1993, started, owned, and shot all the content for Pure Candy Images until we sold it in 2002. And of course what I do now. I actually do get excited to shoot every scene and always have a hard on the entire time I'm doing it...I just plain out love sex. That's probably the only reason my shit is successful.
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Who and the hell would pay a fat ass like Sunny Lane 10k ? How funny!
10k to let her fat ass blow me.
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$500.00 to $800.00 per scene, if she's a top name, maybe $1200.00 max. Sounds more like the agency and not the girl. Tough times...


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They must be crazy or just dont want to work.

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She is totally bullshitting you unless for example she had a $100,000 - 4 movie per year deal. But she probably forgot to mention all the appearances, feature dancing gigs etc that comes with being a contract girl.


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I read an article that there is a prostitute in Las Vegas and she charges $30,000 a night - unbelievable.
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Fixed. And agreed.
You edited my quote to say something that I didn't say. You're a useless sack of rancid shit. Go fuck yourself.
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if they get work for that much, then good for them. I think a lot of them are without a job at the moment
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I understand why some of the hotter girls have higher rates. You should see what happens to their pussies after they are booked too much. When these girls (that work almost daily) tell me they have a BF at home I wonder what he thinks about he girls pussy constantly blown the fuck out.
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Offer them $2k on the phone, then when they come in say you changed your mind and it's $1k. Trust me, they'll jump for you. If not, pick up the phone and call the next girl.
That is just unethical and assholish.
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if they get work for that much, then good for them. I think a lot of them are without a job at the moment
Then they would be lowering their rates. It does not make economic sense for a model or agent to price girls out of every bodies price range. They both would soon go broke.

Maybe they earn more money escorting, stripping or what ever. But they earn money or go broke.
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Yea, did 6 scenes a year, $150k. Second highest paid contract girl behind Jenna Jameson.
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I'm sure it's just one scene. I don't think Cyber Fucker worded that correctly or maybe isn't aware of how it usually works. Hell, I'd pay her 3 grand in a heartbeat if I had an entire day. I'd get 5 b/g scenes, one g/g, one solo, and 10,000 pics...and I'd fuck her myself. lol

Yes, I wasn't aware it takes less time. I was thinking that some scenes might need to be repeated when a director is not satisfied and it takes whole day to finish the final product.. :D
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Yes, I wasn't aware it takes less time. I was thinking that some scenes might need to be repeated when a director is not satisfied and it takes whole day to finish the final product.. :D
Some guys are "slow shooters" and take 7 or 8 hours to do a scene.

I respect them and all...but common sense tells me you're gonna lose any "real" sex that might have happened on the set. And you're gonna end up with a real well lit, well shot, scene that isn't gonna be as hot as when you have a guy who REALLY wants to fuck the girl and you get the shoot done in a couple of hours with as little intrusion as you can.

And when I say as "little intrusion" it's still a lot because you do have to get certain things done (stills, positions, etc.)

But when you made your original comment you were talking about shooting her all day long. And yeah, it does happen...Score is notorious for trying to do what I said earlier, shoot 2 or 3 scenes and picture sets for the price of one by making it a "day rate"

But most don't. And I'm sure her outrageous price comes from an agent, and is only for exactly ONE scene.
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I simply wouldn't see paying a girl more money than she would be worth to my business. . . . But it wouldn't make ONE more sale for me. Not one. So being able to afford something and then having it make business sense is two different things
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How much do you think a girl like Sunny Leonee gets paid? I guarantee you it's ALOT.

Easily $2,000 for a scene. Pretty sure she's under exclusive contract though. Those girls make a lot of money.

I know Taryn Thomas.. she used to be pretty big awhile back.. not so much anymore. But I am sure she still makes decent money per scene.

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Then they would be lowering their rates. It does not make economic sense for a model or agent to price girls out of every bodies price range. They both would soon go broke.

Maybe they earn more money escorting, stripping or what ever. But they earn money or go broke.
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How much do you think a girl like Sunny Leonee gets paid? I guarantee you it's ALOT.

Easily $2,000 for a scene. Pretty sure she's under exclusive contract though. Those girls make a lot of money.

I know Taryn Thomas.. she used to be pretty big awhile back.. not so much anymore. But I am sure she still makes decent money per scene.
It may be A Lot, but there's also things to take into consideration, such as being aware of what they receive for other work.

Sunny works on MFC doing cam shows. Buy some tokens. See how many people are in her group shows. See how often she is doing private shows. Make the calculations as to what she is making doing that, then make an offer.

If a girl is making $150/hr doing one thing, but asks for $1500/hr doing another, there are usually reasons behind it. Determine what those reasons are and your negotiating power is increased.
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if we're talking top porn stars like Eva Angelina.. Tori Black.. $2000 just won't do..
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It may be A Lot, but there's also things to take into consideration, such as being aware of what they receive for other work.

Sunny works on MFC doing cam shows. Buy some tokens. See how many people are in her group shows. See how often she is doing private shows. Make the calculations as to what she is making doing that, then make an offer.

If a girl is making $150/hr doing one thing, but asks for $1500/hr doing another, there are usually reasons behind it. Determine what those reasons are and your negotiating power is increased.
yes, basic economics 101... however that must be balanced against 'conversions and retention' is sunny going to convert on a tour? or is some 18 year old hottie straight off the farm going to convert better.... all depends on your biz model? my clients would gain no benefit from a model like sunny HOWEVER I'm sure there are those that would, now would the cost benefit be there to pay $2000 + per scene? I have no idea to be honest? out of my realm.. sunny should get what she can, while she can from who she can?
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Old 06-01-2010, 08:08 AM   #90
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I met a girl in the bar the other day while having a drink.
I asked if I could buy her a drink, she said sure.
After a while I ordered another drink and asked her if she would fuck me for $10,000.
She thought about it a minute and said why YES I will.
I then waited a few minutes and asked her if she would fuck me for $5?
She said "What the hell do you think I am"?
I said we have already established "THAT" now we are just dickering about price!
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Old 06-01-2010, 08:49 AM   #91
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It may be A Lot, but there's also things to take into consideration, such as being aware of what they receive for other work.
Nowadays, most girls who are in porn for more than a few months end up escorting. They make very good money for very little effort and I'm sure that factors into how much they want to do a porn scene.
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Old 06-01-2010, 10:17 AM   #92
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Nowadays, most girls who are in porn for more than a few months end up escorting. They make very good money for very little effort and I'm sure that factors into how much they want to do a porn scene.
Escorting, stripping and web cams. Another thread on the board is stating girls earn good money doing web cam, add in escorting and stripping for a girl with a known name as they are always a good payer. These girls are in the business to make as much money as they can in as short a time as possible.

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It may be A Lot, but there's also things to take into consideration, such as being aware of what they receive for other work.

Sunny works on MFC doing cam shows. Buy some tokens. See how many people are in her group shows. See how often she is doing private shows. Make the calculations as to what she is making doing that, then make an offer.

If a girl is making $150/hr doing one thing, but asks for $1500/hr doing another, there are usually reasons behind it. Determine what those reasons are and your negotiating power is increased.
Good post.

Many of the replies here are based on what the posters market and profits are. They earn money from shooting girls no one knows of. Others can't do that and HAVE to have girls the customer knows. So they have to pay what the girls and their agents ask for.

Supply and demand.

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