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Old 06-04-2010, 07:12 PM   #1
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Who eats Goji Berries?

I love goji berries! Yum!
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:38 PM   #2
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I drank the juice, didnt do nothing for me i dont think. Nasty stuff it was
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:45 PM   #3
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I drank the juice, didnt do nothing for me i dont think. Nasty stuff it was
Eww why the juice? Gotta try eating them.



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Old 06-04-2010, 07:50 PM   #4
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is that a fancy name for himalayan sheep dingle berries?
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:54 PM   #5
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:55 PM   #6
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Eww why the juice? Gotta try eating them.



goji berries fucking rock!

i was eating the navitas but switched to tibet authentic

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Old 06-04-2010, 08:29 PM   #7
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I drank the juice, didnt do nothing for me i dont think. Nasty stuff it was
V-Fusion Cranberry Goji by V-8 isn't so nasty as the pure stuff, but it may not have the same anti-oxidant bump.
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Old 06-05-2010, 01:48 AM   #8
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I never tried. They look good from the photo.
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Old 06-05-2010, 09:58 AM   #9
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Fruit and veggie juice is BULLSHIT as far as nutrition goes unless it is fresh. You should really be eating the whole food. Meaning if you want to get nutrition from an orange you should eat the fucking orange. Ok now go back to spending hundreds of dollars a year on bullshit packaged juice while thinking you are being healthy.
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:01 AM   #10
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I drink only natural orange juice, eat apples and bananas, sometimes kiwi. But maybe i should try berries
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:05 AM   #11
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Fruit and veggie juice is BULLSHIT as far as nutrition goes unless it is fresh. You should really be eating the whole food. Meaning if you want to get nutrition from an orange you should eat the fucking orange. Ok now go back to spending hundreds of dollars a year on bullshit packaged juice while thinking you are being healthy.
complete and absolute nonsense.
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:21 AM   #12
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Ad them in my oatmeal in the morning and in salads, great super fruit ;-)
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:26 AM   #13
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never seen these things before..
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:35 AM   #14
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Ah, brilliant marketing.

So, those that pay for these things, can you explain to me why anti-oxidants are good? Bonus points if you can link to any peer-reviewed, published research showing positive effects from goji berries, or any other 'anti-oxidant'

From Bad Science:

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My favourite Christmas traditions are the ?red wine is good for you? and ?chocolate is good for you? stories, which have become a festive science tradition of their own. Red Heart Wine, from Sainsbury?s, with extra antioxidants, is ?a red wine that is actually good for your heart?.

Drink it down with new Choxi+, milk chocolate with ?extra antioxidants?.
?Guilt free,? says the Daily Mail, it?s ?the chocolate bar that?s ?healthier? than 5lbs of apples?. ?Too good to be true,? says the Mirror. ?Chocolate that is good for you, as well as seductive,? says the Telegraph. The Choxi+ manufacturers recommend two pieces of their chocolate every day. It?s almost as good as Fruitella Plus, with added vitamins A, C, E and calcium.

These are jokes which have gone too far, fat and spotty on wishful thinking. Antioxidants are like an endlessly repeated Christmas movie that you?ve never quite watched from start to finish: let?s recap.

Firstly there?s the theoretical plausibility, from biochemistry textbooks. Sainsbury?s tells this story in the style of a children?s story. ?Exposure to UV rays, pollution and smoking produce free radicals,? they say. Oh modern woes! ?Free radicals are compounds that cause cell damage, which in the long term can damage health.? It?s a simple tale of right and wrong. ?Antioxidants help counteract the harmful effects of free radicals.?

It?s an attractive idea. But if you?re going to pore over the flowcharts in a biochemistry textbook, and pick molecules out at random on the basis of their function in the body, then you can prove anything you like. When you have a bacterial infection white cells build a wall around invading bacteria and then use free radicals ? amongst other things ? to kill them off, like tipping bleach down the toilet. Should we be selling wine with extra free radicals, instead, to help people fight bacterial infections, on the grounds of theoretical plausibility?

Anyway. In the 1970s men who looked like Father Christmas made amazing discoveries about smoking and health: buoyed with the enthusiasm of it all, they decided that all other cancers must have lifestyle causes, such as diet perhaps. They started looking for data, and this is what they found: people who choose to eat antioxidant pills seem to live longer; people who choose to eat fruit and vegetables seem to live longer; fruits and vegetables contain lots of antioxidants.

Are antioxidants the key to that link? Possibly. But people who choose to eat fruit and vegetables are getting a lot of good stuff into them, and they?re also like me: they?re a bit posh, they get plenty of exercise, they work, they have strong social supports, and more.

So trials were done, in huge numbers, giving one group extra antioxidants, in pills, and the other group our old friend the placebo sugar pill. Some of these trials were stopped early because the people getting the antioxidants were dying faster. Overall, if you look at all the results on a big spreadsheet (a technique called meta-analysis) it seems that antioxidant supplement pills either do nothing, or worse, kill you quicker. There might be something in the antioxidant story, but they might be rubbish. You don?t read that everyday in press releases on wine and chocolate.

So what does this do for our Christmas fable? Well fruit and veg are definitely still good for you. But you like chocolate. I?m not your mother. Eat it. Enjoy it. Believe in Santa. Chocolate is healthier than 5lbs of apples. And in the new year you can perform a symbolic purification ritual, involving five days of abstinence. You can dress that up in crap science too."

http://www.badscience.net/2007/12/ep...l-indulgences/

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Old 06-05-2010, 10:47 AM   #15
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I buy mine from the asian grocery. Not really a brand my western eyes can decypher. I've never tried them out of the bag, I use them in my cooking. Chinese medicine says they help with eyes / vision. I don't fully subscribe to chinese herbal medicine, but I figure what the hell, doest hurt anything and they taste good.
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Ah, brilliant marketing.

So, those that pay for these things, can you explain to me why anti-oxidants are good? Bonus points if you can link to any peer-reviewed, published research showing positive effects from goji berries, or any other 'anti-oxidant'
antioxidants are good for at least 2 things- cardiovascular health, and lowering diabetic issues.

these articles should be enough to get you started.

10 bonus points each-
http://www.emaxhealth.com/1020/98/36...cells-lab.html
http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp
http://www.aafp.org/afp/990901ap/895.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19387111
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antioxidants linked to increased brain function-

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...ach&id=7479542

along with cardiovascular benefits, antioxidants provide vital nutrients to your entire circulatory system-
antioxidant benefits of chocolate
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decade of research has shown that the flavonoids in chocolate increase blood levels of nitric oxide, a compound that helps relax the smooth muscle in blood vessel walls, which improves blood flow, says Dr. John Gordon Harold, clinical professor of medicine at UCLA and president of the Los Angeles Division of the American Heart Assn.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may...ition-20100531
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much research showing a direct correlation between healthy skin and antioxidants

one example
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64R4MO20100528
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Scientists don't fully understand all the processes that lead to loss of function as people age. But more and more research points to the cell's powerhouses, called mitochondria, as an important player in aging. Mitochondria are largely responsible for generating energy within a cell, but they also produce so-called free radicals, which are molecules with extra electrons that can cause damage — throughout the cell and within the mitochondria itself. Too much damage can cause the mitochondria to stop working properly.

To address that problem, many anti-aging studies and supplements are geared toward reducing the effects of free radicals.

The current study tested a commercially available supplement marketed for relieving chronic fatigue and protecting against muscle aging. The supplement contains the antioxidant coenzyme Q10, creatine — a compound that aids in muscle performance — and ginseng, which also has been shown to have antioxidant properties. (Antioxidants ameliorate damage caused by free radicals.)

The researchers fed the supplement to middle-aged 21-month-old and late-middle-aged 29-month-old rats — corresponding to 50 to 65-year-old and 65 to 80-year-old humans, respectively — for six weeks, and measured how strongly their paws could grip. Grip strength in rats is analogous to physical performance in humans, and deterioration in grip strength can provide useful information about muscle weakness or loss seen in older adults.

At the end of the six weeks, grip strength had improved 12 percent in the middle-aged rats compared with controls. No improvement was found in the older group.

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antioxidants are super good for ya!

acai berry is one of the better ones, in spite of the online scams that exist, but goji has an even higher ORAC rating that acai.
maqui berry will be the next biggie.
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:04 AM   #22
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I do once in a while. They're great. They're very popular with the Vegan crowd.
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:17 AM   #23
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Yeah, how can a fruit from the ground be bad for you (unless its poisonous haha).... and they taste good. Good snack food to substitute instead of like potato chips or something when you are watching TV.

Most of my friends never heard of them before though but thats cool im not the only one who eats them.
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I just know as a guy at 40 years my sperm count and quality went up - now we have a baby boy.. can't say it was just the Goji's but when those numbers should have been going down with age they went up..

Gave up coffee to.
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They are way to chewy when dried.
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I bought a pack from the grocery store awhile ago but they were gross...My youngest daughter loves them though so she gets them as a snack until the box runs out.
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Ive tried them..... they are kind of boring tasting.
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I'm surprised a Mona Vie MLM person hasn't popped into this thread yet.
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What kind of taste does the pure Goji juice have?

Does it taste good mixed with gin/tequila/rum/vodka/etc?

I think I noticed it as quite expensive in local organic food store some time ago.
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