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Old 06-21-2010, 10:48 AM   #1
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Can there only be one racist in a relationship?

So I know this girl who has always seemed like a caring person and NEVER showed any sign of being racist. She meets a guy who is hardcore racist almost to the skinhead level and he's proud of it. He never hid the fact and is very open about so it's not like she didn't find out until later. It was very apparent from the get go.

She marries him and has a child with him.

The only thing I can think of is in her mind she thinks that's him, not me so I'm not racist.

My question is it possible for two people like that to be in a committed relationship to the point where children will be raised and only one of them be racist.
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How does this relate to the adult industry?
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How does this relate to the adult industry?
How does 97% of the other threads in this sub forum relate to the adult industry?
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If she married him and had a kid with him, as much as she might tell you otherwise, she's ok with it.
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Why would anyone be attracted to that unless they are racist themselves. Plenty of racists will tell you they aren't racists.
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shes probably just another fuck up who digs retard aggro fucktards.
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My first wife was actually a pretty hardcore racist. I didn't find that out until later of course, but there were incidents in which I had to physically tackle her to remove her from situations where she was literally screaming out racial slurs and talking about her "granddaddy owning people" and shit.

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no idea how this works for others, but i'd dump a girl that's racist and won't change
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If she married him and had a kid with him, as much as she might tell you otherwise, she's ok with it.
Can she be ok with him being racist but not be racist herself.

Is she guilty by association.

Having known her I just have a hard time believing she is racist and wonder how she can deal with him as he openly uses racism as a power trip.
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Can she be ok with him being racist but not be racist herself.

Is she guilty by association.

Having known her I just have a hard time believing she is racist and wonder how she can deal with him as he openly uses racism as a power trip.
Sounds like a straight edge marrying a junkie.
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she doesn't have to be a racist at all - she could likie his massive cock or the fact that he's loaded or his 6 pack
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Can she be ok with him being racist but not be racist herself.

Is she guilty by association.

Having known her I just have a hard time believing she is racist and wonder how she can deal with him as he openly uses racism as a power trip.
Doesn't mean she's racist, it means she doesn't have an issue with open racism.

I means it doesn't offend her that her child will be raised in a household where that is common place.

If this guy is as racist as you say, then that's what I would assume must be true.
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She marries him and has a child with him.

My question is it possible for two people like that to be in a committed relationship to the point where children will be raised and only one of them be racist.
That's an interesting question.
Two people who get together aren't always 100% alike, but for a relationship to work you have to kind of be on the same moral level and share the same values.

One of my friends just got uninvited to her close friends wedding because the racist groom hates my friends boyfriend lol
So about your question in my opinion I think both share the same point of view
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I should also mention that my father is quite "tongue in cheek" racist, though I think he claims he's just joking to avoid owning up th the fact that he is in fact quite racist. My mother hates the fact that he's like that, and knows that he is probably genuinely a bit racist.

My mother, who tends to think that brown people (Indians only, it seems) are cheats and will do anything to pay less for something (she works in the food industry and says they try to haggle in a massive supermarket that is country wide... No haggling allowed), is probably the least racist person I know. But her feelings about indians, regardless of how justified they may be, still demonstate that even people who hate racism can be a bit racist.

It's part of the human condition.
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That's an interesting question.
Two people who get together aren't always 100% alike, but for a relationship to work you have to kind of be on the same moral level and share the same values.

One of my friends just got uninvited to her close friends wedding because the racist groom hates my friends boyfriend lol
So about your question in my opinion I think both share the same point of view
I recently posed this question to a small group of friends at a dinner. A few said they felt it was just about a difference of opinion. Like one being a Republican and one being a Democrat. It's just two people with opposing views.

I see racism as much more than a point of view. It's harmful, totally based on hatred and a product of ignorance. At the level he displays it is disturbing. I don't see how two people can be in a relationship and only one be racist. It just doesn't make sense.

Still, having known her I'd like to think that somehow in her mind she has found a way to separate the two diametrically opposed views to where she isn't involved even though she married him and had his child which will most definitely be raised in a racist environment.

If I were to get into a conversation about it with her I wouldn't want to burst the sugar coated bubble that she may have created to cope with the situation. If she were to see her situation for what it really is and what she has got herself into she will be very miserable. On the other hand if she condones racism and clearly knows what she is into than I won't have any problem telling her what I think.

It's also possible that my view is screwed up so that's why I posed the question to GFY since racism is so often discussed here.
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first time I ever saw any racism was in the Navy, boot camp. Didn't see hardly any on my submarine. Working LA, the most I saw was affirmative action in play.

Raised my daughter to not judge people by anything other than their actions, too bad we can't hold our president to that level

I don't have anything to do with anyone that hates or judges solely by the color of their skin, I have no time for it. I have a lot of friends that feel the same way
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My question is it possible for two people like that to be in a committed relationship to the point where children will be raised and only one of them be racist.
Why not? If I am not racist and my gf is racist where is the problem for me? I mean I can not like her attitude but thats just her attitude. She might not like my attitude towards other things.
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Doesn't mean she's racist, it means she doesn't have an issue with open racism.
Exactly. Its as simple as that.
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I recently posed this question to a small group of friends at a dinner. A few said they felt it was just about a difference of opinion. Like one being a Republican and one being a Democrat. It's just two people with opposing views.

I see racism as much more than a point of view. It's harmful, totally based on hatred and a product of ignorance. At the level he displays it is disturbing. I don't see how two people can be in a relationship and only one be racist. It just doesn't make sense.

Still, having known her I'd like to think that somehow in her mind she has found a way to separate the two diametrically opposed views to where she isn't involved even though she married him and had his child which will most definitely be raised in a racist environment.

If I were to get into a conversation about it with her I wouldn't want to burst the sugar coated bubble that she may have created to cope with the situation. If she were to see her situation for what it really is and what she has got herself into she will be very miserable. On the other hand if she condones racism and clearly knows what she is into than I won't have any problem telling her what I think.

It's also possible that my view is screwed up so that's why I posed the question to GFY since racism is so often discussed here.
I don't think it's just your view point being off, even if she isn't judging as openly as he is, she at least is condoning it. She must realize her child will be raised around his points of view, that is something that is instilled in early childhood and the child will likely have those attitudes for life.
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I recently posed this question to a small group of friends at a dinner. A few said they felt it was just about a difference of opinion. Like one being a Republican and one being a Democrat. It's just two people with opposing views.

I see racism as much more than a point of view. It's harmful, totally based on hatred and a product of ignorance. At the level he displays it is disturbing. I don't see how two people can be in a relationship and only one be racist. It just doesn't make sense.
See you answered your own question. FOR YOU it does not make sense, but some of your friends treat is as different opinion, opposing views. So that girl probably falls in this same category. Case solved.

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See you answered your own question. FOR YOU it does not make sense, but some of your friends treat is as different opinion, opposing views. So that girl probably falls in this same category. Case solved.
She may feel she has an opposing view and isn't racist which I've already stated.

By fully knowing his position and still marrying him and wanting him to father her child doesn't that make her supportive in his view? If you condone racism like that and choose a racist to raise your child with his views how can you still separate yourself from that. You might be able to do it in your mind but I would think the reality of the situation is much different.

Keep in mind that this guy doesn't just occasionally throw the N word out while they're riding in the car together. He's the type that openly spews racial slurs directly to the person to incite a conflict and feels any person that isn't white needs to be shipped out of the US.
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Somewhere in New York I believe.
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The same with religion. Being married to a person of X religion doesn't automatically mean you're of that religion, right? Unless they agreed that the other partner has to convert.
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The same with religion. Being married to a person of X religion doesn't automatically mean you're of that religion, right? Unless they agreed that the other partner has to convert.
One of my friends made that point.

I don't think it's the same.

A couple can have different views or tastes with many things that are ok in today's society and I understand that. Whether it's political, religious, sports teams or something else it doesn't matter.

What makes this situation different is it's about being racist.

If you understand what racism is and you know that it is wrong, how can a person be in the right when they condone it.

A better comparison would be a father molesting his children with the mother knowing about it but not doing anything saying that's his thing and I don't have anything to do with it. Of course that situation would be more serious because there are victims involved but I think it's more like that than just two people having different views.
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I had a white friend who used to almost exclusively bang black guys. About 5 or 6 years ago while she was living in another state a black guy she hooked up with took her home and locked her up in his basement. She never really gave me all the details, but he kept her down there for a while - over a week - and did bad things to her.

We kept in touch online and I was super excited to see my old highschool friend when she moved back to FL. We started hanging out in person and that was when I discovered she had become a racist. I felt bad for her because I knew where it had come from, and even though the hatred seemed to run deep I thought it would fade as time passed. Prior to all this she had been a 2-Tone Anti Racist Action Rude Girl. I felt like over time she might come back around. I felt that I couldn't abandon my friend.

I listened to her, we talked, I tried to plant seeds of tolerance where I could.

She got knocked up and had a kid, we were all out at dinner one night and she decided to tell what she considered to be a funny anticdote about how she taught her son when he watches TV to point and says the N word if a black person comes on.

At this point I knew she was lost. She wasn't coming back around and worse she had started to damage her child. This is something I cannot abide. I abandoned my friend.

I guess what really chaps my ass is that she hasn't changed her MO of going home with random dudes, they're just all random white dudes now. I don't think this happened to her because she hooked up with a black guy, I think it happened because she hooked up with someone she didn't know and took no precaution to feel the guy out or let anyone else know where she was going or who she was with. There was no digital or paper trail, when she went missing she was just gone. A sad story but one I thought I would share because I think it exemplifies how children change the game a little when discussing the issue of racism.
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She may feel she has an opposing view and isn't racist which I've already stated.

By fully knowing his position and still marrying him and wanting him to father her child doesn't that make her supportive in his view?
Well like I said if you take it just as opposing views (your own example of republicans-democrats, which was mentioned by few of your friends) then no. Then its like saying you are being democrat how could you marry republican, does not it make you supportive of republican view? No. Its just that you don't have much problem with opposing views
Again this is just keeping in mind that for some people its just opposing view
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in my research white people are the least racist people on the planet.

The mexicans in Los Angeles hate blacks (miyates as they call them) more than the rednecks in the south. Having been born in the south and movd to california, ther is clearly more racism in California than the south.

Its even statistically measured. The number of registered hate groups in california equals almost more than the deep south combined! hahaha well theyve cracked down on them in cali so numbers are going down, but you gotta add multiple south states to = the groups in cali.

White people arent allowed to be racist, but if you are chinese, its totally ok to hate koreans and phillipinos, and if you are black its totally cool to hate whites, jews you can hate all arabs, no one call you racist etc... whites just have bad name becquse of slavery in america, but racism is worse everywhere else.
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in my research white people are the least racist people on the planet.

The mexicans in Los Angeles hate blacks (miyates as they call them) more than the rednecks in the south. Having been born in the south and movd to california, ther is clearly more racism in California than the south.

Its even statistically measured. The number of registered hate groups in california equals almost more than the deep south combined! hahaha well theyve cracked down on them in cali so numbers are going down, but you gotta add multiple south states to = the groups in cali.

White people arent allowed to be racist, but if you are chinese, its totally ok to hate koreans and phillipinos, and if you are black its totally cool to hate whites, jews you can hate all arabs, no one call you racist etc... whites just have bad name becquse of slavery in america, but racism is worse everywhere else.

I find myself agreeing with a lot of your posts.

On the original subject I would say being in a relationship with a racist for a woman is kind of similar to being in a relationship with a gigantic flaming asshole. Every rational person on the outside of the relationship looks at it and thinks or says 'What the fuck is that sweet girl doing with such a dickhead', Some women like the tough guys and bad boys and assholes and most will say something like 'He is nothing like that when we are alone' or that the guy in question treats her really well.

The friend in question here must love the guy and who knows, aside from being an immature ignorant asshole he might treat her extremely well. The thing about the kid is a shame but if his/her mother does not share the same hatred of people as the father the kid will know that as well and it could flip on the skinhead and he could end up with a black son-in-law or daughter-in-law... karma is a bitch
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on the subject of skinheads, using the term skinhead to equate to racsts is rather uninformed on the term.

"boneheads" are racist skinheads.

Skinheads were never racist. I guess known of you know black skinheads. That is stereotyping those with shaved heads to be racist skins, far from truth or accuracy. Never use the term skinhead to describe a racist skin, skinheads by definition were never racist people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_skinhead

there is major difference.

just sayin ;)
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it could flip on the skinhead and he could end up with a black son-in-law or daughter-in-law... karma is a bitch
As we get older I'm getting to see this very thing come to fruition. Its grand and it is to laugh.
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on the subject of skinheads, using the term skinhead to equate to racsts is rather uninformed on the term.

"boneheads" are racist skinheads.

Skinheads were never racist. I guess known of you know black skinheads. That is stereotyping those with shaved heads to be racist skins, far from truth or accuracy. Never use the term skinhead to describe a racist skin, skinheads by definition were never racist people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_skinhead

there is major difference.

just sayin ;)
When I used the term " skinhead " I had in mind the type of people in your second link and I used it to show how deep into racism the guy was. He isn't discreet about it. He proudly boasts his position and pretty much makes an effort to let everyone know how he feels.

It's true that I know little about the " skinhead " culture which after reading your links seems to be pretty diverse. I think my use was accurate enough to get my point across and all I'm guilty of is not narrowing it down with a more specific prefix
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When I used the term " skinhead " I had in mind the type of people in your second link and I used it to show how deep into racism the guy was. He isn't discreet about it. He proudly boasts his position and pretty much makes an effort to let everyone know how he feels.

It's true that I know little about the " skinhead " culture which after reading your links seems to be pretty diverse. I think my use was accurate enough to get my point across and all I'm guilty of is not narrowing it down with a more specific prefix
Correct, I was responding to this: " She meets a guy who is hardcore racist almost to the skinhead level "

The fact is most skins are not racist, but the WP Skins (boneheads) always get the media attention and fit the stereotype. I had black skinhead friends in highschool. The term "almost to skinhead level" is what caused me to try to educate you. Skinheads are usually not racist, the WP ones and nationalists in general are though.

Most skinheads are not racist. Thats simply a fact. Many Oi!/skin bands sing against racism.

Such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_Sparrer
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