possible for adult industry to launch a class action lawsuit against Google? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mutt · 07-04-2010, 05:14 PM

It's been going on a long time, Google's top search results dominated by copyright infringing sites and sites that enable it. it's reaching almost 100% saturation now where you can search for a popular pornstar or web model and it is all torrents, rapidshare, forums/blog with direct download links.

that's not Google's secret algorithim at work serving up quality sites that best match a surfer's search query, it's Google giving surfers what they think/assume they want, free copyright infringing content.

is there a good legal case to be made you think?

Agent 488 · 07-04-2010, 05:18 PM

http://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/...ing-songs.html

Jakez · 07-04-2010, 05:22 PM

Google doesn't know the inner-workings of a site, which is why they will list all the free tubes first, because those free tubes are actually what surfers want and are flocking to. However it definitely wouldn't hurt to get them (illegal tubes) taken out of the equation.

Edit: on second thought, since porn is a MAJOR traffic giant on the internet, they should be doing some kind of look into the sites they are listing for the most popular terms, but who knows what their motive is.. if these major illegal tubes are really doing something illegal then there should be a way for Google to get access to this information and ban their domain.. obviously no one is stopping the illegal tubes?

Mutt · 07-04-2010, 05:24 PM

well there ya go - the music industry is doing it. so should we.

Brujah · 07-04-2010, 05:26 PM

Viacom lost its YouTube battle. I'm not sure I'd bother.

Mutt · 07-04-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Viacom lost its YouTube battle. I'm not sure I'd bother.

i didn't see that news - shit if it's true.

Mutt · 07-04-2010, 05:38 PM

wow, it is true, dismissed the case before it even went to trial.

i really thought that case was going to be huge and might be a partial victory for Viacom and all copyright owners.

we're fucked, until a new law gets passed - and when it does it will also be a law with holes a copyright infringer can run through.

JBlack · 07-04-2010, 05:41 PM

^ its true alright.... shits sucks big time for the adult industry. We need to infiltrate more lobbyist or get a few senators to work for us...

Zorgman · 07-04-2010, 05:49 PM

Google is god, he will strike you down.

Nysus · 07-04-2010, 05:53 PM

Google and big search engines should partner with porn producers to get a cut. Everyone will win.

Oh wait, the surfer won't - it won't be as easy to find free porn..

signupdamnit · 07-04-2010, 05:57 PM

I don't believe going after Google makes sense. Go after the sites directly. Issue takedown notices. Make it so those rankings are meaningless, so the Rapidshare links all go to "File not found" pages. Sure it means a lot of work but it can be done.

Dirty Dane · 07-04-2010, 06:00 PM

Considering the size of this industry, all the past Google spammers and everything told by the SEO "experts" within it, it's kind of weird that the infringing index sites can duplicate each other and push themselves to the top on Google.

signupdamnit · 07-04-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Considering the size of this industry, all the past Google spammers and everything told by the SEO "experts" within it, it's kind of weird that the infringing index sites can duplicate each other and push themselves to the top on Google.

Keep in mind that they have been tracking outgoing clicks for a while now. If the algorithm takes those results into account (and even more so if it is more dynamically adaptive than we imagine) it can over time favor such results moving to the top. It's only natural that surfers learn to click known pirate tube sites and pirate forums before other unknown links once doing so in the past has already yielded them favorable results.

RogerV · 07-04-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

It's been going on a long time, Google's top search results dominated by copyright infringing sites and sites that enable it. it's reaching almost 100% saturation now where you can search for a popular pornstar or web model and it is all torrents, rapidshare, forums/blog with direct download links.

that's not Google's secret algorithim at work serving up quality sites that best match a surfer's search query, it's Google giving surfers what they think/assume they want, free copyright infringing content.

is there a good legal case to be made you think?

I totally agree with you

EliteWebmaster · 07-04-2010, 09:41 PM

Agreed, damn I hate those freaking torrent sites, if you are unfortunate to click on it thinking it's a legit site, you are either spammed or the pop ups attempts crashes your browser. Google should get their act together and curb those stupid sites

Jack Sparrow · 07-04-2010, 11:15 PM

Dont waste your time and money.

LickMyBalls · 07-04-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Google doesn't know the inner-workings of a site, which is why they will list all the free tubes first, because those free tubes are actually what surfers want and are flocking to. However it definitely wouldn't hurt to get them (illegal tubes) taken out of the equation.

Edit: on second thought, since porn is a MAJOR traffic giant on the internet, they should be doing some kind of look into the sites they are listing for the most popular terms, but who knows what their motive is.. if these major illegal tubes are really doing something illegal then there should be a way for Google to get access to this information and ban their domain.. obviously no one is stopping the illegal tubes?

Bullshit.. Google's little college kid cadets, running the backoffice legal dept, are on the take... big time.

papill0n · 07-04-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster

Agreed, damn I hate those freaking torrent sites, if you are unfortunate to click on it thinking it's a legit site

Nathan · 07-05-2010, 12:19 AM

Google can hardly ban tube sites which work under the same exact logic as youtube. That would be them admitting youtube is illegal... will obviously never happen.

Mr Pheer · 07-05-2010, 12:43 AM

Its not possible because you cannot get the idiots in this business to work together on anything. Its everyone for himself and they'll stab you in the back when you arent looking.

Jack Sparrow · 07-05-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackie Lantern

Its not possible because you cannot get the idiots in this business to work together on anything. Its everyone for himself and they'll stab you in the back when you arent looking.

Quote of the year, can i use it in my sig?

pradaboy · 07-05-2010, 02:10 AM

Well first problem would be how are you ever going to organize an alliance? Some, if not most really big programs have interests in the free tubes and forums. It's too much of a clusterfuck to ever work.

seeandsee · 07-05-2010, 03:32 AM

they will just say "it's algorithm" , we can't change that

ottopottomouse · 07-05-2010, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster

Agreed, damn I hate those freaking torrent sites, if you are unfortunate to click on it thinking it's a legit site, you are either spammed or the pop ups attempts crashes your browser. Google should get their act together and curb those stupid sites

How do you manage to accidentally click on a torrent site thinking it's legitimate?

Maybe you're the sort of person looking for websites about kittens that accidentally types in 'pictures of athletic black men with big hard cocks' and is then shocked by the results.

billywatson · 07-05-2010, 10:13 AM

You're asking the "adult industry" to do something as a collective whole?

LOL

Nysus · 07-05-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

wow, it is true, dismissed the case before it even went to trial.

i really thought that case was going to be huge and might be a partial victory for Viacom and all copyright owners.

we're fucked, until a new law gets passed - and when it does it will also be a law with holes a copyright infringer can run through.

I still say they should be required to show they are removing the content as quickly as is technologically possible.

Nysus · 07-05-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

You're asking the "adult industry" to do something as a collective whole?

LOL

"adult industry" is the wrong network to try to coerce into action - it's Content Producers / copyright holders that need to rally.

07-04-2010, 05:14 PM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	possible for adult industry to launch a class action lawsuit against Google? It's been going on a long time, Google's top search results dominated by copyright infringing sites and sites that enable it. it's reaching almost 100% saturation now where you can search for a popular pornstar or web model and it is all torrents, rapidshare, forums/blog with direct download links. that's not Google's secret algorithim at work serving up quality sites that best match a surfer's search query, it's Google giving surfers what they think/assume they want, free copyright infringing content. is there a good legal case to be made you think? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

07-04-2010, 05:22 PM	#3
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	Google doesn't know the inner-workings of a site, which is why they will list all the free tubes first, because those free tubes are actually what surfers want and are flocking to. However it definitely wouldn't hurt to get them (illegal tubes) taken out of the equation. Edit: on second thought, since porn is a MAJOR traffic giant on the internet, they should be doing some kind of look into the sites they are listing for the most popular terms, but who knows what their motive is.. if these major illegal tubes are really doing something illegal then there should be a way for Google to get access to this information and ban their domain.. obviously no one is stopping the illegal tubes? __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati Last edited by Jakez; 07-04-2010 at 05:25 PM..

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	well there ya go - the music industry is doing it. so should we. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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07-04-2010, 05:38 PM	#7
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	wow, it is true, dismissed the case before it even went to trial. i really thought that case was going to be huge and might be a partial victory for Viacom and all copyright owners. we're fucked, until a new law gets passed - and when it does it will also be a law with holes a copyright infringer can run through. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

07-04-2010, 05:18 PM	#2
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07-04-2010, 05:41 PM	#8
JBlack Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hollywood Posts: 399	^ its true alright.... shits sucks big time for the adult industry. We need to infiltrate more lobbyist or get a few senators to work for us... Last edited by JBlack; 07-04-2010 at 05:43 PM..

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Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	Google is god, he will strike you down. __________________ ---

07-04-2010, 05:53 PM	#10
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	Google and big search engines should partner with porn producers to get a cut. Everyone will win. Oh wait, the surfer won't - it won't be as easy to find free porn.. __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html

07-04-2010, 05:57 PM	#11
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	I don't believe going after Google makes sense. Go after the sites directly. Issue takedown notices. Make it so those rankings are meaningless, so the Rapidshare links all go to "File not found" pages. Sure it means a lot of work but it can be done.

07-04-2010, 06:00 PM	#12
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Considering the size of this industry, all the past Google spammers and everything told by the SEO "experts" within it, it's kind of weird that the infringing index sites can duplicate each other and push themselves to the top on Google. Last edited by Dirty Dane; 07-04-2010 at 06:02 PM..

07-04-2010, 09:41 PM	#15
EliteWebmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,975	Agreed, damn I hate those freaking torrent sites, if you are unfortunate to click on it thinking it's a legit site, you are either spammed or the pop ups attempts crashes your browser. Google should get their act together and curb those stupid sites

07-04-2010, 11:15 PM	#16
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Dont waste your time and money.

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Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Google can hardly ban tube sites which work under the same exact logic as youtube. That would be them admitting youtube is illegal... will obviously never happen. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

07-05-2010, 12:43 AM	#20
Mr Pheer I got bored here. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 20,768	Its not possible because you cannot get the idiots in this business to work together on anything. Its everyone for himself and they'll stab you in the back when you arent looking.

07-05-2010, 02:10 AM	#22
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	Well first problem would be how are you ever going to organize an alliance? Some, if not most really big programs have interests in the free tubes and forums. It's too much of a clusterfuck to ever work. __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

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