US government declares war on piracy - strategy plan released. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

TheDoc · 06-23-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

what does "illegal downloading" refer to genius? bootleg watches?

Which illegal porn download sites are counterfeiting porn and selling access to them? I'm sure you can report those to the counterfeiting task force.

If a site ignores your take down notices you have every right to sue, win a judgement and enforce that judgement on the domain registrars, if it has to go that far.

What you/we can't stop is someone counterfeiting your goods, not that it's happening much with online porn - but it does happen.

gideongallery · 06-23-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Just a point to make here. Just because they had record profit doesn't mean piracy didn't still have an effect. Maybe they would have had 12% profit or whatever.

if I have $100 in my wallet and someone takes $10 it doesn't mean I didn't get $10 stolen just because I still have $90 in my wallet.

if it was money taken out of the wallet they would know the losses
it like if someone put money in your wallet

except they put 90 instead of a 100.

GatorB · 06-23-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

if it was money taken out of the wallet they would know the losses
it like if someone put money in your wallet

except they put 90 instead of a 100.

figures you were too obtuse to get the gist of my point.

NetHorse · 06-23-2010, 09:16 PM

I've been saying this for years, everyone always argues, "piracy can't be stopped". Well, no, it can't be stopped, but when the laws are changed it can be greatly reduced.

It doesn't matter what form of piracy they've specifically targeted today, this is just the beginning.

In my opinion this is what will happen in the next 1-3 years.

First congress will pass a bill for "reasonable network management practices". In other words content filtering to stop unlawful activity over the internet.

Next there will be a "panel" created. This panel will determine what sites are breaking U.S. laws.

Once a site is determined to be breaking laws it will be filtered through all the major telecommunication giants in the United States, and they will be GLAD to comply.

This will not solely be to stop piracy and other unlawful activity. Like everything, it will be a major political move and I guarantee it will come at a huge cost to our, (people in the United States) freedom on the internet.

Don't think it's happening, don't think it's possible? Well it's already happening.

http://www.internetnews.com/governme...% 20Fight.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/
http://gizmodo.com/5052628/comcast-o...r-your-traffic

Jaytown · 06-23-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

This is part of the counterfeit goods act, which in itself is as stupid as anyone who thinks that copyright infringement can be stopped.

Exactly, NOTHING will come out of this, anyone hoping it will should wake the fuck up.

crazytrini85 · 06-24-2010, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse

I've been saying this for years, everyone always argues, "piracy can't be stopped". Well, no, it can't be stopped, but when the laws are changed it can be greatly reduced.

It doesn't matter what form of piracy they've specifically targeted today, this is just the beginning.

In my opinion this is what will happen in the next 1-3 years.

First congress will pass a bill for "reasonable network management practices". In other words content filtering to stop unlawful activity over the internet.

Next there will be a "panel" created. This panel will determine what sites are breaking U.S. laws.

Once a site is determined to be breaking laws it will be filtered through all the major telecommunication giants in the United States, and they will be GLAD to comply.

This will not solely be to stop piracy and other unlawful activity. Like everything, it will be a major political move and I guarantee it will come at a huge cost to our, (people in the United States) freedom on the internet.

Don't think it's happening, don't think it's possible? Well it's already happening.

http://www.internetnews.com/governme...% 20Fight.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/
http://gizmodo.com/5052628/comcast-o...r-your-traffic

Love your funky dino sig.

$5 submissions · 06-24-2010, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Will the "War On Piracy" be the new "War On Drugs"?

With the same stellar results?

DamianJ · 06-24-2010, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Just a point to make here. Just because they had record profit doesn't mean piracy didn't still have an effect. Maybe they would have had 12% profit or whatever.

if I have $100 in my wallet and someone takes $10 it doesn't mean I didn't get $10 stolen just because I still have $90 in my wallet.

Where do I suggest piracy has no effect?

TheDoc · 06-24-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse

I've been saying this for years, everyone always argues, "piracy can't be stopped". Well, no, it can't be stopped, but when the laws are changed it can be greatly reduced.

It doesn't matter what form of piracy they've specifically targeted today, this is just the beginning.

In my opinion this is what will happen in the next 1-3 years.

First congress will pass a bill for "reasonable network management practices". In other words content filtering to stop unlawful activity over the internet.

Next there will be a "panel" created. This panel will determine what sites are breaking U.S. laws.

Once a site is determined to be breaking laws it will be filtered through all the major telecommunication giants in the United States, and they will be GLAD to comply.

This will not solely be to stop piracy and other unlawful activity. Like everything, it will be a major political move and I guarantee it will come at a huge cost to our, (people in the United States) freedom on the internet.

Don't think it's happening, don't think it's possible? Well it's already happening.

http://www.internetnews.com/governme...% 20Fight.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/
http://gizmodo.com/5052628/comcast-o...r-your-traffic

This task force isn't new... technically nothing is changing, we're simply doing what we have done before with the laws that we already have.

No laws related to copyright/fair use will change in this Country. Fair use alone is about 15% of our entire GDP, changing the laws would destroy our Country.

And technically, tubes aren't breaking the law until they ignore your requests. Basically they aren't counterfeiting anything, this task force isn't going to care.

NetHorse · 06-28-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

This task force isn't new... technically nothing is changing, we're simply doing what we have done before with the laws that we already have.

No laws related to copyright/fair use will change in this Country. Fair use alone is about 15% of our entire GDP, changing the laws would destroy our Country.

And technically, tubes aren't breaking the law until they ignore your requests. Basically they aren't counterfeiting anything, this task force isn't going to care.

LOL, that's exactly my point, "technically" they aren't breaking any laws, because laws to stop loopholes like that don't yet exist. That's why they're called NEW laws.

I mean I can't see how you can say a law that enables the filtering of traffic to sites thought to committing unlawful activity won't change anything. Did you even bother to look at those links? It's not happening right now, but that's the direction we are heading in.

TheDoc · 06-29-2010, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse

LOL, that's exactly my point, "technically" they aren't breaking any laws, because laws to stop loopholes like that don't yet exist. That's why they're called NEW laws.

I mean I can't see how you can say a law that enables the filtering of traffic to sites thought to committing unlawful activity won't change anything. Did you even bother to look at those links? It's not happening right now, but that's the direction we are heading in.

What the hell is this noncoherent babble?

What law? What enabled filtering?

You must have posted in the wrong thread.

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NetHorse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,526	I've been saying this for years, everyone always argues, "piracy can't be stopped". Well, no, it can't be stopped, but when the laws are changed it can be greatly reduced. It doesn't matter what form of piracy they've specifically targeted today, this is just the beginning. In my opinion this is what will happen in the next 1-3 years. First congress will pass a bill for "reasonable network management practices". In other words content filtering to stop unlawful activity over the internet. Next there will be a "panel" created. This panel will determine what sites are breaking U.S. laws. Once a site is determined to be breaking laws it will be filtered through all the major telecommunication giants in the United States, and they will be GLAD to comply. This will not solely be to stop piracy and other unlawful activity. Like everything, it will be a major political move and I guarantee it will come at a huge cost to our, (people in the United States) freedom on the internet. Don't think it's happening, don't think it's possible? Well it's already happening. http://www.internetnews.com/governme...% 20Fight.htm http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/ http://gizmodo.com/5052628/comcast-o...r-your-traffic __________________ ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ ICQ # 427013273 Last edited by NetHorse; 06-23-2010 at 09:19 PM..