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Old 04-22-2010, 02:13 AM   #1
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NO MORE traffic purchase

Yes that's it.
I stop buying traffic as of today
I dont want to feed all those traffic brokers anymore.
If all programs do the same, then website traffic will be monetized to its real value - which is not the case right now
It's over evaluated right now so that traffic brokers can make their indecent margins.

+ everybody trying to sell their traffic now - because they cant monetize it
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Old 04-22-2010, 02:18 AM   #2
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Old 04-22-2010, 02:35 AM   #3
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:25 AM   #6
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The law of supply and demand says you're wrong, but okay.
Agreed!

If what the OP said was true, I've been making "indecent profits" for the past 14 years; lol, yeah, right!

Sounds as if a traffic broker over-promised, but under-delievered. Sadly, that happens a lot. Hit me up if you'd like a realistic evaluation of what your goals are for buying traffic.
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Yes that's it.
I stop buying traffic as of today
I dont want to feed all those traffic brokers anymore.
If all programs do the same, then website traffic will be monetized to its real value - which is not the case right now
It's over evaluated right now so that traffic brokers can make their indecent margins.

+ everybody trying to sell their traffic now - because they cant monetize it
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:09 AM   #10
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Old 04-23-2010, 03:32 AM   #13
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buy traffic for 100, wait for some 100pps, for example today at new mofos, and i think you can still get at least your 100 back
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:24 AM   #16
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I don't see the problem in buying traffic, what is getting sad is prepaid deals that should take 1 month to complete will usually take 3. Some brokers oversell their traffic and have to scramble to deliver the goods ;(
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All traffic is good traffic if you know what you are doing....
Agreed.

The fact is, if there was not profits in the traffic nobody would buy.
If publishers want to sell their traffic to someone else because they can make more money that way OR they are too busy .. it shows good business sense.

Sorry it didn't work out with whoever you bought from.
The people who are successfully buying and profiting generally don't announce it... also good business.
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:18 AM   #19
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Yeah I agree with that. I've been doing SEO work for years and STILL haven't gotton the hang of it. Some months I get 50,000 visitors a day, then I get 2,000 a day next month and I'm like WTF!
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If you got a problem with the middle man, cut him out and buy direct from the publishers.
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Yeah I agree with that. I've been doing SEO work for years and STILL haven't gotton the hang of it. Some months I get 50,000 visitors a day, then I get 2,000 a day next month and I'm like WTF!
Hmm that's weird,i dont get more then +5000 hits daily in se oscillations.
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Agreed.

The fact is, if there was not profits in the traffic nobody would buy.
If publishers want to sell their traffic to someone else because they can make more money that way OR they are too busy .. it shows good business sense.

Sorry it didn't work out with whoever you bought from.
The people who are successfully buying and profiting generally don't announce it... also good business.
I was not expecting any other type of answer from someone selling traffic

I would change your post though : "If publisher want to sell their traffic to someone else because they CAN'T MONETIZE ANYMORE through affiliate program."
Because right now, most of your publishers are generating 5% of the sales they were generating 4 years ago.
So yes! Obviously for them, it's better to find prepaid deals than joining an affiliate program and make almost nothing...

So i know there will always be someone - especially here - telling the exact opposite but in 90% of your publishers, what i stated here is true and you know it
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I was not expecting any other type of answer from someone selling traffic

I would change your post though : "If publisher want to sell their traffic to someone else because they CAN'T MONETIZE ANYMORE through affiliate program."
Because right now, most of your publishers are generating 5% of the sales they were generating 4 years ago.
So yes! Obviously for them, it's better to find prepaid deals than joining an affiliate program and make almost nothing...

So i know there will always be someone - especially here - telling the exact opposite but in 90% of your publishers, what i stated here is true and you know it
quit being a whiny board bitch and start buying direct from publishers then instead of going through a broker. plety of people ARE able to convert that traffic, thats why publishers ell, thats why brokers exist, thats hwy there's thousands and thousands of advertisers floating the PPC model still. just because you can't convert traffic for shit, doesn't mean the traffic isn't good. hurrr durrr durrr derp derp derp...
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quit being a whiny board bitch and start buying direct from publishers then instead of going through a broker. plety of people ARE able to convert that traffic, thats why publishers ell, thats why brokers exist, thats hwy there's thousands and thousands of advertisers floating the PPC model still. just because you can't convert traffic for shit, doesn't mean the traffic isn't good. hurrr durrr durrr derp derp derp...
Keep on selling your $300 blogs and let the grown up do the talking

It would take me too much time and efforts to make you understand that what you propose here is absolutely not realistic in today's market...
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Yeah I agree with that. I've been doing SEO work for years and STILL haven't gotton the hang of it. Some months I get 50,000 visitors a day, then I get 2,000 a day next month and I'm like WTF!
That's because you aren't an expert.
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It would take me too much time and efforts to make you understand that what you propose here is absolutely not realistic in today's market...
you're the one who's sitting here whining and crying because you can't convert traffic worth a fuck....

"no more traffic purchase" = "i'm not making money buying traffic" = "i suck balls at buying traffic"
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you're the one who's sitting here whining and crying because you can't convert traffic worth a fuck....

"no more traffic purchase" = "i'm not making money buying traffic" = "i suck balls at buying traffic"
ok
btw i love your blogs
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btw i love your blogs
well at least somebody does, because i don't. not one of them has seen an update in over 2 years...
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well at least somebody does, because i don't. not one of them has seen an update in over 2 years...
that was ironical - in case you did not realize
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Just buying traffic, without any filters or GEO-ip's, sending it to your paysite's homepage is SO 1996 indeed.

Talking to (local) personal account managers (in 10+ languages and who know their business) about your specific needs, countries, langauges, web and/or mobile (down to the phonetype) and your goals/targets/CPA, doing small testcases, getting feedback and advise and optimisation on your landing pages with ROI pixels communicating back to the admin of your campaign & blocking all sites that don't convert for your campaign(s) is SO 2010 and also very www.ero-advertising.com ! The first network that actively blocked all bots, bullshit and spyware.
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that was ironical - in case you did not realize
oh i caught it mr long time industry veteran who can't convert paid traffic...
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it was always sold out.
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it's ok mr $300 blogs who has no traffic
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oh you sure pinned me down big timer. can i please spit shine the rubber on you solid gold rolls royce?
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You could be creating individual profiles of every surfer who comes to your network, and be sure they receive the most relevant content based on their surfing history. Don't just blindly buy the traffic, try it (succeed / fail) and then buy more; you need to learn from it and make constant changes. I suggest developing surfing patterns and making better content decisions. Buying traffic is part of this business good or bad, but if you are smart with what you buy it can return dividends to you for a long time. Use the traffic don't have it use you.

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We tried several traffic purchases over the years, and most of them were not as good as our seo work (google traffic, link exchange ..)
We could do better spend each user $10 for signup than giving away 1k to traffic brokers, ad sellers and simply overpriced wannebies.

BUT, you can use traffic, even the "bad" one, if you have a working business model filtering the right traffic for the right site/ product. Thats real EXPERT work.

The only thing which fucked up all the time making me serious business man pulling out the Specnaz are traffic cheaters. There are a way to many out there. Thats our reason not to buy traffic in gross.
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countries, langauges, web and/or mobile (down to the phonetype) and your goals/targets/CPA, doing small testcases, getting feedback and advise and optimisation on your landing pages with ROI pixels communicating back to the admin of your campaign & blocking all sites that don't convert for your campaign(s) is SO 2010
My model is based on buying traffic. My network is a bunch of small crap sites. I won't get rich, but I don't have to work all year.

If you can't see my sites, you've been filterd.
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I have several affiliates buying loads of traffic and pushing us on custom setups

Working out extremely well for all parties involved:

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Hell I'll even make custom paysites for them!
If anyone is interested in a chat, I am always around

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Without question adult traffic is very over priced, for years now. Not all sources, but anything that has real volume is almost always over priced by at least 2x the value.

Programs are being lied to left and right about the size and productivity of traffic, to an extreme... brokered traffic or directly sold, it makes no difference.

Programs, products, etc.. that buy traffic, I highly recommend you start talking to each other so you can find out how bad you're being screwed over, for sure when you're buying something - someone else gave up. If a program got boned, low traffic volume, crap for overall sales, they have no problem telling you.

Just pay attention to how fast the traffic slots role through clients or the client only bought once and it took MONTHS for them to deliver what should have taken 1, it wouldn't take a single bit of logic to figure out they're fucking people over - which is why they're always looking for 'new' buyers.
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People keep rebuying my spots so they must be happy.
Some sources are good... not everyone is out to bring in the biggest dollars with every ad purchase, but it does happen so much that people that buy traffic need to be very cautious and if it seems to good to be true, force a test buy.
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