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Old 01-03-2003, 10:00 AM   #1
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:stoned Should David Westerfield Die?

what do you think?
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:05 AM   #2
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Yeah, what the hell. Kill him.
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:10 AM   #3
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he got death
go look at cnn
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:15 AM   #4
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he got death
go look at cnn
Actually they are still deliberating...looks like hell get death though
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:17 AM   #5
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He should get a fate worse than 5 years mandatory gay bukkakae then death by anal gutting.
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:19 AM   #6
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he got the death penalty
go look at cnn
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:19 AM   #7
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"Westerfield gets death"
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:21 AM   #8
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he got the death penalty
go look at cnn
dude, i must be blind, i can swear im watching cnn right now and the mother is telling her story before the sentencing.

I think what you mean is the jury recommended death, but now the judge has to rule on it. am i missing something?
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:24 AM   #9
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to the one that said to let him go !!
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to the one that said to let him go !!
i agree, maybe a would be more appropriate...
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:27 AM   #11
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well go to cnn.com
LOL
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well go to cnn.com
LOL
there we go, justice served, by the way how the hell can you afford to pay $50 per sign up? how much is it for them to sign up?
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:31 AM   #13
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:45 AM   #15
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:48 AM   #16
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its cheap for them to signup
we have low monthly membership

but we have alot of "Services" we will for inside our member area, allowing us to be able to pay out $50 a signup
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I don't think he should get death.
He obviously is insane, if you look at what he did. Ofcourse, letting him out isn't an option either, so lock him up and throw away the key is what I would say.

(btw, anyone who thinks a guy that kills a 7-year-old girl is completely sane and not in the slightest bit disturbed, please explain your line of thought)
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Death is too easy, and too quick.

Stick him in a 6' by 6' cell and just give him enough food and water to survive on - no light, no clothes, no human contact. Make the fucker suffer...
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:53 AM   #19
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Hell ya that fucker should die -- the Westerfield and VanDam's live about 10 miles from me and I have 3 kids.. that is scary shit man.

But I ALSO think the VanDams should have their kids taken away for the crazy shit they do to the kids. The fucking lock them in their room from the outside - thats some fucked up shit.
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:58 AM   #21
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I don't think he should get death.
He obviously is insane, if you look at what he did. Ofcourse, letting him out isn't an option either, so lock him up and throw away the key is what I would say.

(btw, anyone who thinks a guy that kills a 7-year-old girl is completely sane and not in the slightest bit disturbed, please explain your line of thought)
Why, always insanity as an excuse????
He killed a little girl who had her whole life ahead of her. He robbed her family of one the most precious thing you can have; a child.
He took pleasure doing this crime.
And we should feel sorry for that guy because he is insane?
So that he can be locked up for life, costing taxpayers $4000+ per month for the rest of his miserable life?
GIVE ME A FUCKEN BREAK.

Stop looking for excuses everytime someone commits a crime;
My papa used to beat me
My mama used to pull on my pipi
My dog used to bite me
My neighbor used to show me her breast
My teacher was gay
.....
When you do something you have to be responsible and assume the consequences.

If instead of spending money on worthless pile of shits who are lost for humanity, we spent that money on people who truly need helps, then maybe, we would have less crimes committed.
Don't you think it's better to spend those $4000 per month on helping young offenders get job training rather than on letting that westerfiled piece of shit get "Psychological Help" for the rest of his life. Plus, you never know, some mother fucker psychologist may think he is not a danger to humanity in 10 years, and let him walk.
BURN THE MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!
AND MAY HE ROT IN HELL FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't think he should get death.
He obviously is insane, if you look at what he did. Ofcourse, letting him out isn't an option either, so lock him up and throw away the key is what I would say.

(btw, anyone who thinks a guy that kills a 7-year-old girl is completely sane and not in the slightest bit disturbed, please explain your line of thought)
why would the fact that he is insane mean he shouldnt get the death penalty?
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Why, always insanity as an excuse????
He killed a little girl who had her whole life ahead of her. He robbed her family of one the most precious thing you can have; a child.
He took pleasure doing this crime.
And we should feel sorry for that guy because he is insane?
So that he can be locked up for life, costing taxpayers $4000+ per month for the rest of his miserable life?
GIVE ME A FUCKEN BREAK.

Stop looking for excuses everytime someone commits a crime;
My papa used to beat me
My mama used to pull on my pipi
My dog used to bite me
My neighbor used to show me her breast
My teacher was gay
.....
When you do something you have to be responsible and assume the consequences.

If instead of spending money on worthless pile of shits who are lost for humanity, we spent that money on people who truly need helps, then maybe, we would have less crimes committed.
Don't you think it's better to spend those $4000 per month on helping young offenders get job training rather than on letting that westerfiled piece of shit get "Psychological Help" for the rest of his life. Plus, you never know, some mother fucker psychologist may think he is not a danger to humanity in 10 years, and let him walk.
BURN THE MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!
AND MAY HE ROT IN HELL FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good job in proving you have no clue.
You do realize that the death penalty costs more than life in prisonment, right?
Besides that, there is absolutely no doubt that the crime he committed was atrocious. In fact, that is so obvious, that anyone with even the slightest bit of sanity would see it, and wouldn't do such a thing.
You say he took pleasure doing the things he did. Now, wouldn't you call someone who takes pleasure in things like that totally and utterly insane?
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So that he can be locked up for life, costing taxpayers $4000+ per month for the rest of his miserable life?
GIVE ME A FUCKEN BREAK.
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If instead of spending money on worthless pile of shits who are lost for humanity, we spent that money on people who truly need helps, then maybe, we would have less crimes committed.
Don't you think it's better to spend those $4000 per month on helping young offenders get job training rather than on letting that westerfiled piece of shit get "Psychological Help" for the rest of his life. Plus, you never know, some mother fucker psychologist may think he is not a danger to humanity in 10 years, and let him walk.
BURN THE MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!
AND MAY HE ROT IN HELL FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs2.html

"A study by Indiana's Criminal Law Study Commission found that the total costs of the death penalty exceed the complete costs of life without parole sentences by about 38%, assuming that 20% of death sentences are overturned and resentenced to life. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)

The most comprehensive study in the country found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life (Duke University, May 1993.) On a national basis, these figures translate to an extra cost of over $1 billion dollars spent since 1976 on the death penalty. The study,"The Costs of Processing Murder Cases in North Carolina" is available on line at www-pps.aas.duke.edu/people/faculty/cook/comnc.pdf

Enforcing the death penalty costs Florida $51 million a year above and beyond what it would cost to punish all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole, according to estimates by the Palm Beach Post. Based on the 44 executions Florida has carried out since 1976, that amounts to a cost of $24 million for each execution. (Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000)

The death penalty costs California $90 million annually beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system - $78 million of that total in incurred at the trial level (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988).

Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty from 1973 to 1988 to achieve 18 executions - that is an average of $3.2 million per execution. (Miami Herald, July 10, 1988).

In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years. (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992). "

Lock 'em up, let 'em suffer for 40+ years AND save money...
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I don't think he should get death.
He obviously is insane, if you look at what he did. Ofcourse, letting him out isn't an option either, so lock him up and throw away the key is what I would say.

(btw, anyone who thinks a guy that kills a 7-year-old girl is completely sane and not in the slightest bit disturbed, please explain your line of thought)
He's committed an act against a small child. A relative BABY. I want that sick bastard dead. I would much prefer it be a slow, tortuous death, but as long as he dies, I'm agreeable.

I so not want him locked up for years and years. Already Too much of my hard-earned dollars area feeding, clothing, and sheltering these inmates whose lives were spared the death penalty by these bleeding heart, sniveling, whining "oh, they're sick, let them ive in jail rather than exceuting them" dicks. I'm tired of my tax money going to take care of these sonsofbitches.



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(btw, anyone who thinks a guy that kills a 7-year-old girl is completely sane and not in the slightest bit disturbed, please explain your line of thought)
(BTW: anyone who thinks a guy wanting a life sentence instead of the death sentence for a guy who kills a 7 year-old-girl is completely sane and not in the slightest bit disturbed, please explain your line of thought.)
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why would the fact that he is insane mean he shouldnt get the death penalty?
There are a number of reasons one could have for giving the death penalty.

The first is scaring other criminals from doing things like that in the future. Now, that doesn't work well on crazy people, who do not make an analysis of risks and benefits, like for instance a bankrobber would.

Another reason would be punishing someone for his evil actions. However, if those actions are caused by a disease (insanity), you are punishing someone for having a disease over which that person obviously has no control.

Yet another reason would be saving the state the costs of life imprisonment. However, the death penalty costs more, so that one doesn't work either.

Besides that, one could argument that the death penalty is to prevent someone from ever doing something like that again. However, life imprisonment with no possibility to get out does that just as well.
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Good job in proving you have no clue.
You do realize that the death penalty costs more than life in prisonment, right?
Besides that, there is absolutely no doubt that the crime he committed was atrocious. In fact, that is so obvious, that anyone with even the slightest bit of sanity would see it, and wouldn't do such a thing.
You say he took pleasure doing the things he did. Now, wouldn't you call someone who takes pleasure in things like that totally and utterly insane?
In a case like this one, where there is no doubt that he is the killer, there should be no waiting period, only a fast appeal process, then immediate execution. Period.
So, if you say that he was utterly insane because of what he did, then we are going to excuse the poor people who like to watch little kids having sex. Poor them, we should help them....No, we should castrate pedophile, and if I had any say, we should get rid of them, they are a danger to society...
You have no clue, this planet is getting very crowded, less and less resources. So, let's stop wasting time and money on piece of shits and let's start using this time and money on people who deserved it.

death penalty exceed the complete costs of life without parole sentences by about 38%
Burn them fast, that way it won't cost more!!!
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"A study by Indiana's Criminal Law Study Commission found that the total costs of the death penalty exceed the complete costs of life without parole sentences by about 38%, assuming that 20% of death sentences are overturned and resentenced to life. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)
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Another site built by bleeding hearts. Hell, a bullet isn't that expensive, and it's fun to watch the condemned wet his pants right before the exceutioner yells "Fire!"
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Anyone who kills a kid deserves to die.

Still confused how Texas let that mother
live who drowned her 4 kids. Insanity
don't cut it. What good does she do
anybody being alive.

Anyone who rapes a kid should be put
to death.

Anyone who ever touches a kid should
be behind bars for the rest of their lives
and have their dicks cut off..
They are worse then murderers.

Westerfield--cut his dick off than kill him.

BTW--lethal injection is too nice a way
for anyone to be put to death on death
row. It like when you go under for surgery
but don't wake up. Too easy and painless.
Not fair at all--Electric Chair all the way..


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My husband had this thought on the matter: Does it matter if the insane person whom you have so sweetly given a life sentence to instead of the death penalty can be rehabilitated? Isn't that what prison is supposed to do: rehabilitate and punish? If that person cannot be rehabilitated, then why waste the time, effort, and money? Will life in prison change the fact that he killed an innocent little girl?

And don't give me the "disease that he can't control" bullshit. That's a weak excuse, thrown out by those sniveling pussified bleeding heart liberals. Let me ask this: If it had been YOUR child, would you be saying, "Oh, it's a disease that he can't control, he didn't mean to kill her..."
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Anyone who kills a kid deserves to die.

Still confused how Texas let that mother
live who drowned her 4 kids. Insanity
don't cut it. What good does she do
anybody being alive.

Anyone who rapes a kid should be put
to death.

Anyone who ever touches a kid should
be behind bars for the rest of their lives
and have their dicks cut off..
They are worse then murderers.

Westerfield--cut his dick off than kill him.

BTW--lethal injection is too nice a way
for anyone to be put to death on death
row. It like when you go under for surgery
but don't wake up. Too easy and painless.
Not fair at all--Electric Chair all the way..


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100% WITH YOU ON THIS
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I can't get over the idea that some stupid people think that because someone says that a person is "INSANE" that they are not guilty of the killing and so shouldn't be held 100% responsible.

Always take it to the extreme to find the truth in the matter, (What would you do if it was your 7 year old beautiful daughter he killed?????)..... Truthly answer that question after really thinking about it and you should come up with the answer (FRY HIS ASS).

Why waste money keeping a sick ass child killer alive when that $90,000 a year can be spent on helping other innocent children and adults to improve there lives.

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Always take it to the extreme to find the truth in the matter, (What would you do if it was your 7 year old beautiful daughter he killed?????)..... Truthly answer that question after really thinking about it and you should come up with the answer (FRY HIS ASS).
I would want the fucker to suffer for a LONG TIME - an execution is over way to quickly.



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Why waste money keeping a sick ass child killer alive when that $90,000 a year can be spent on helping other innocent children and adults to improve there lives.
Because executing them costs the equivalent of $120,000 per year...
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Another site built by bleeding hearts. Hell, a bullet isn't that expensive, and it's fun to watch the condemned wet his pants right before the exceutioner yells "Fire!"
Oh the good old days There are defiantly some things that would be nice if we had things like it was in the old days, marshall would round up a posse and hang the son of a bitch
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Anyone who kills a kid deserves to die.

Still confused how Texas let that mother
live who drowned her 4 kids. Insanity
don't cut it. What good does she do
anybody being alive.

Anyone who rapes a kid should be put
to death.

Anyone who ever touches a kid should
be behind bars for the rest of their lives
and have their dicks cut off..
They are worse then murderers.

Westerfield--cut his dick off than kill him.

BTW--lethal injection is too nice a way
for anyone to be put to death on death
row. It like when you go under for surgery
but don't wake up. Too easy and painless.
Not fair at all--Electric Chair all the way..


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i agree. anyone who commits any crime against a kid should die a slow, painful, humiliating death. period.
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"bushwack" his ass or in other terms, shoot him in his asshole with a 9mm. fuckin pervert...
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Old 01-03-2003, 11:57 AM   #37
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My husband had this thought on the matter: Does it matter if the insane person whom you have so sweetly given a life sentence to instead of the death penalty can be rehabilitated? Isn't that what prison is supposed to do: rehabilitate and punish? If that person cannot be rehabilitated, then why waste the time, effort, and money? Will life in prison change the fact that he killed an innocent little girl?

And don't give me the "disease that he can't control" bullshit. That's a weak excuse, thrown out by those sniveling pussified bleeding heart liberals. Let me ask this: If it had been YOUR child, would you be saying, "Oh, it's a disease that he can't control, he didn't mean to kill her..."
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Old 01-03-2003, 11:57 AM   #38
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Oh the good old days There are defiantly some things that would be nice if we had things like it was in the old days, marshall would round up a posse and hang the son of a bitch
Actually, yes. The so-called "WIld West" had significantly less crime than the USA does today. Why? Because laws were actually ENFORCED.
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by the way i would be willing to pay MORE for a guy like that to be executed... that should put an end to all your "death penalty is more expensive" bullshit
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by the way i would be willing to pay MORE for a guy like that to be executed... that should put an end to all your "death penalty is more expensive" bullshit
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Old 01-03-2003, 12:30 PM   #41
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Anyone that fucks with children deserves a fate MUCH worse than that IMO
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I was going to make a long post, but you guys have taken away the need for that.

The situation you described as ideal is one where people are tortured to death after either a very small, quick trial or no trial at all.

Just like the Taliban, Saddam Hussain, China, the Soviet Union, Hitler's Third Reich, the Spanish Inquisition, etc. You most certainly are in good company with your ideas.
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Just like the Taliban, Saddam Hussain, China, the Soviet Union, Hitler's Third Reich, the Spanish Inquisition, etc. You most certainly are in good company with your ideas.



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Thats a horrible comparison and you should appologize.
. Are you a parent? Take a survey and ask all parents
what they would want if it was there children. What good
does people serve who hurt and kill kids!!! They should be
killed.

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Old 01-03-2003, 01:57 PM   #44
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The situation you described as ideal is one where people are tortured to death after either a very small, quick trial or no trial at all.
Excuse me?! How long has that sonofabitch been sitting around, going through a trial? Over a bloody year, and you call that quick or no trial at all? Go fuck yourself.

He was found guilty by a jury, he fucking ADMITTED to it, and still was given his trial. Get bent...and stay away from MY kids.
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Old 01-03-2003, 05:28 PM   #45
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He should get a fate worse than 5 years mandatory gay bukkakae then death by anal gutting.
Is there a fate worse than that. ?

I gotta go with death, First off, most of these guys spend about 17 years on death row - by all accounts far worse than anything in regular prison and very stressful.

Second, I vote for the parents. 9 times out of 10 they want the perp to fry, and we should respect that. Nothing wrong with vengance.

Third, if somebody did to my daughter what this perp did to that little gitl, and he DIDN'T get the death penalty, my sense of outrage would surely cause me to try to take the guy out before he left the courthouse, even if it was a suicide mission.

Civilization sucks. Thank God I live in America where you can still extract some bloddthirsty revenge and not be shy about it.
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Old 01-03-2003, 05:33 PM   #46
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Actually I say they should give him life in prision.

Lethal Injection is far to kind of a sentence. Let him go to Jail and let him get butt fucked to death.

They don't seem to treat child raping murderers to kindly in jail
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Let's clarify something here. There is a DISTINCT difference between medical insanity and legal insanity. This guy could be crazy as a loon (and probably is, although it's MUCH scarier to think that he's not) and still fit the definition of legal sanity.

Legal sanity only requires that the perpetrator understand the difference between right and wrong at the time the crime is committed. So what if the guy is crackers? That's not the issue in a courtroom.

IMO, his behavior after the crime, the dumping of the body, etc., indicates to me that he had a crystal-clear understanding that what he had done was wrong and that it was in his best interest to get rid of the evidence... thus, legally sane.

And, to address the original question, the death penalty is far less than what this scumbag deserves. If there is a hell (which I don't believe in), I hope he spends his eternity being murdered over and over again in exactly the same fashion as his victim... and I'm not even sure that would be justice enough
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