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Old 07-02-2010, 09:20 AM   #151
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And joshgirls, you can click my name and go back in time to the Bush presidency and see me saying the same sort of thing about the democrats. If it's bullshit, it's bullshit, no matter what scarlet letter they're labeled with. They're both as bad.
thats fair enough. the game is that the party out of power tries to stop the agenda of the party in power. After the recent comments of the texas republican apologizing to BP for a shakedown, i shudder at the idea of palins party back in power. But them dems are handing the independent vote right back over to them with their nonstop spending. Thats why the nebraska democrat voted down the unemployment extension paid for with deficit spending. Attacking republicans is easy, but its the party in power thats fucking shit up now.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:22 AM   #152
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Ahaha. See that? While writing out my post, Tom posted pretty much the same damn thing.

We have senators and representatives dying in office due to old age. We have had at least three in the past year (Murtha due to complications but he was getting up there.) Surely I can't be the only one that has an issue with that!?
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:29 AM   #153
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It absolutely was. A total joke and abuse of the American taxpayer. Shameful.

We need to stop the cycle. What happened last year or the year before doesn't matter anymore. What happens tomorrow and next year does.
But the cycle will never stop. Whenever the economy goes bad the fat cats will always get whatever assistance they need and the ordinary citizens will always get thrown to the curb.

That's the cycle as it already is.

Today, tomorrow, next year and forevermore, that's how it will always be.

And that is what is really shameful.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:35 AM   #154
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Ahaha. See that? While writing out my post, Tom posted pretty much the same damn thing.

We have senators and representatives dying in office due to old age. We have had at least three in the past year (Murtha due to complications but he was getting up there.) Surely I can't be the only one that has an issue with that!?
We would be better off if the public sector did not have lavish pay & benefits that make working for the government the best job in america. Pols just sell their votes to campaign donors, take all expenses paid vacations on their dole, then pocket a six figure salary & get benefits that rival corporate CEOs. The best place to work in america is for the public sector now. Its one of the biggest perversions in a country supposed to be based on private sector wealth creation.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:43 AM   #155
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Okay, so if the jobs aren't rolling in, why would the Republicans want to kick people out of homes, not allow kids to have food, basically support follow Americans suffering when they have very little or no other choice?
Because they (and lots of Democrats too) see people only as potential votes.

Whether those same people happen to be suffering or living productive lives matters not in the least.

Politics 101
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:49 AM   #156
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Yeah these people dying of old age while still in office is really something else. Votes can be easy to keep once you get them evidently. Some of them even busted with hookers and casholla and what not.. but they're still there because we.... like their name? Who knows, but they should get a vacation.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:52 AM   #157
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:01 AM   #158
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Ignore Tom, he never has a point. It's always "blame Republicans". A stupid, broken record.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:09 AM   #159
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Throwing money at the problem is not the answer. Leaving hard working people to fend for themselves when no jobs exist which are suitable to their skill sets is not the answer.

Extending benefits is half the solution. Requiring verifiable job training class attendance, weeding out people who abuse the system and enforcing the rules already in place to promote temporary use of unemployment is the other half.

Doing either is silly. Doing neither is silly. The country, can... should... and eventually will do both.
You won't get very far with that line of reasoning.

I mean, your post actually makes sense.


I wouldn't advise holding your breath waiting for the country to do the right thing however.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:03 AM   #160
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You won't get very far with that line of reasoning.

I mean, your post actually makes sense.


I wouldn't advise holding your breath waiting for the country to do the right thing however.
Because there's a difference between offering realistic solutions and just being naive.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:28 AM   #161
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sales will bl*w for the new few days because of this type of news, but things will go back to normal.
That 1.2 million people will start looking for jobs SERIOUSLY now, which is good for the economy after all.
Looking for something is all well and fine. And SERIOUSLY looking for the same is, I suppose, even better.

But if ain't there you ain't gonna find it.

FACT: There are more unemployed than there are jobs. A lot more.

It's simple math really. No matter how anyone spins it, splices it, or dices it, those numbers still come out the same.

Seriously.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:43 AM   #162
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Because there's a difference between offering realistic solutions and just being naive.
I guess you missed my sarcasm there. I thought Relentless's observations were dead on and very sensible.

But it is precisely because his ideas are so realistic that to implement them would require compromise and good faith from both political camps.

That's why it'll never play out like that.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:54 AM   #163
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the sad part is that the numbers are fudged. Todays jobs report revised the may jobs # from 40,000 to 30,000. So the 80,000 # for June is likely bullshit as well.

think of it, 15,000,000 unemployed & the economy producing 80,000 jobs. Shit is starting to hit the fan for millions of unemployed. & it will get worse as bankrupt states are going to start big layoffs as well.

But instead of cutting some spending to pass an unemployment bill, they go home for vacation.

The real problem is...unemployed people can't pay $1000 a plate at a fundraiser.

At least the republicans don't hide their the party of the rich. Dems talk like they actually care for the people LOLOLOL.
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