The truth about the porn industry - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

raven1083 · 07-05-2010, 01:20 AM

long to read... ;(

ottopottomouse · 07-05-2010, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

porn is rape.

PornMD · 07-05-2010, 05:07 AM

tl;dr

Would be funny if that woman was fmltube.

ilnjscb · 07-05-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

she is not talking about censorship, she is talking about it in a free and honest debate.

her right to free speach should be supported just as much as yours, even if her free speach cost you money.

Her's is actually much more supported than ours. None of us will get our opinions published.

Grapesoda · 07-05-2010, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

The realtionship between the porn maker and the consumer is linked. The consumer can only see what is made, if the choice is restricted he must get off on what is there.

what sells is what made, so the the choice is restricted to what sells

ShellyCrash · 07-05-2010, 07:25 AM

I find articles like this actually help adult.

Every straight woman who reads this may walk away shaking their heads, but nearly every straight man who reads it is probably going to walk away thinking, "Wow, what am I MISSING out on?" and will jump on the computer his first chance and surf around to "survey the landscape" for himself.

That said I do kind of agree with the extremes content goes to to constantly up the ante. I know that it's just meeting a market need, but I do worry for future generations who's first exposure to porn might be watching something like "The Pink Eye" series off a tube site or downloading a Max Hardcore scene.

CaptainHowdy · 07-05-2010, 07:28 AM

"Truth" and "pornography" don't go along...

Cherry7 · 07-05-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

what sells is what made, so the the choice is restricted to what sells

A lot of other factors involved...It is a myth that the market is free and the consumer dictates what gets made.

Hence advertising, first make a crap drink for 2 c a litre and spend 25 c marketing it.

Very few human being are original and want to do something new of different the pressure to conform is very strong. Hence the "wisdom" that porn is the only porn that could be.

But if we look at other art forms say cinema we can see that each culture produces different forms. so it is possible....

The critic of porn makes some true points...

I for one think the degradation of women problematic.

I stand up for sexual liberation of men and women and erotic material to be enjoyed by both....

ottopottomouse · 07-05-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

I do worry for future generations who's first exposure to porn might be watching something like "The Pink Eye" series off a tube site or downloading a Max Hardcore scene.

With such detailed research done and extreme porn apparently being so pervasive there won't be too many future generations to worry about once kids think that cumming in ears, eyes, arses or noses is how reproduction works.

will76 · 07-05-2010, 08:30 AM

I saw porn at age 10 way before the internet. It was my dads playboys.

eh, let blame the internet to why kids are seeing porn at an early age

Not like there isn't fucking on cable, porn mags, etc.

saucygirl · 07-05-2010, 08:39 AM

I wonder how many times she ended up getting off to all that "research."

eroticsexxx · 07-05-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Bwahahaha. A frog sex toy.

Robbie · 07-05-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

A lot of other factors involved...It is a myth that the market is free and the consumer dictates what gets made.

Hence advertising, first make a crap drink for 2 c a litre and spend 25 c marketing it.

Very few human being are original and want to do something new of different the pressure to conform is very strong. Hence the "wisdom" that porn is the only porn that could be.

But if we look at other art forms say cinema we can see that each culture produces different forms. so it is possible....

The critic of porn makes some true points...

I for one think the degradation of women problematic.

I stand up for sexual liberation of men and women and erotic material to be enjoyed by both....

Then you should exploit the market of people who would rather see the softer porn. They are out there.

But you just have to understand that the majority of folks prefer harder porn.

It's just the way it is. I've run my tgp's since the mid-1990's and sold millions of dollars worth of memberships to hundreds of programs. Our tgp's were the first ones back in the day to have seperate category pages.

And unequivocally, since day one...the softcore "babe" type galleries underperformed VASTLY when compared to hardcore.

Not saying there isn't a market...because there is. I'm just saying that when given the chance between two different sites: one with Puma Swede posing very sexy (like an old school Playboy shoot) and the other site with Puma Swede all sweaty and getting fucked by two guys in the ass...well, the majority of folks seem to migrate to seeing her in real hardcore action.

That's not a result of people being led by the nose to buy the harder stuff. It's just that when given a CHOICE, more people migrate to harder porn. It's more of a fantasy to those particular people.

And that's not a "myth" or a theory. It's what I've seen doing this very successfully for around 15 years online.

The Heron · 07-05-2010, 09:16 AM

How much first hand 'research' did this author do?? Hours and hours watching porn to determine the top type of sex?? hah

Robbie · 07-05-2010, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Heron

How much first hand 'research' did this author do?? Hours and hours watching porn to determine the top type of sex?? hah

Yeah and also "interviewed HUNDREDS of pornographers"

LOL!

I didn't get interviewed by this person. I don't know ANYBODY that got interviewed by this person. Did any of y'all get interviewed or know of anyone who was interviewed by this person?

Of course not.

Because of the way that pornography is persecuted by society and the authorities...we all shy away from people outside our industry wanting to do "interviews".

Unless I know your company, or your name is "AVN" or "XBIZ"...then there isn't a chance in hell that I'm going to give you an "interview".

And I don't know anybody that produces porn that is going to do that either. Especially the big boys. The only "interviews" they will give to sources outside the industry would be to big media outlets and those "interviews" are pure viral marketing.

That statement of "interviewed hundreds of pornographers" is a complete LIE. And if a person is going to lie like that in one part of their bullshit...then how much of the rest of it is made up too? Well, those of us who are in this business know the answer to that as well.

Only people with a pre-determined bias (like gideongallery) would even give that kind of article a second look. Matter of fact, I'm not even sure what the point of posting that up on GFY was. Except to get it read by more people than it ever would have before.

BFT3K · 07-05-2010, 09:36 AM

It sounds crazy to the regular Joe, but when I film models for my sites, I just can't tell you how often the models are disappointed that my shoots are so soft!

If I offer a model $X for 3 hours of softcore dancing and sexy modeling, verses the same $X to do a deepthroat double bj scene, 99% of the time, they would PREFER the bj scene!

No shit - I kid you not! It is less work for them, it takes less than 3 hours, and when you are dealing with porn chicks, you are generally dealing with the LAZIEST people on earth (no offense porn chicks).

In fact, most of the models would rather just get fucked, because it is even LESS work than a blowjob, which is WAY less work than dancing and modeling. Hardcore models generally do not like to shoot softcore!

Some people are anti-porn, and I get that, but MOST of the girls in porn today, are sicker than the guys in this biz.

I can easily find more girls to come in to film a gangbang scene, than I can find for fetish/softcore, which is just the opposite of 10 years ago.

Many girls are watching hardcore online, and they are not imagining themselves starring in soft and loving scenes - they seem to fantasize about the very hardest and sickest stuff out there. It is often the model's fantasy that is rough nowadays... no kidding!

Any other shooters out there experiencing this phenomenon, or am I alone?

Robbie · 07-05-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

It sounds crazy to the regular Joe, but when I film models for my sites, I just can't tell you how often the models are disappointed that my shoots are so soft!

Any other shooters out there experiencing this phenomenon, or am I alone?

Bingo!

I had a meeting at my office last week with one of our girls from SoloSlutCash.
She was telling me that she had just done a shoot for another company. And she was bummed out about it because it was "just" a blowjob scene.

Fact is, she was HORNY! And she thought the guy she did the scene with was hot and wanted to fuck him.

I was thrown off at first. But then she asked me how I would like to do a scene with a hot girl and ONLY eat her pussy and not get to fuck her...then it all made sense.

Yep, girls have desires too. And to act like they don't is bullshit.

In my opinion, to truly "liberate" women you have to STOP thinking that they aren't just as kinky, just as filthy minded, and just as damn horny as us men.

It really is egotistical to think that ONLY men can have strong sex drives and love kinky sex. Trust me, women do too.

BFT3K · 07-05-2010, 09:57 AM

This applies to bondage models too. My bondage site is a walk in the park, so many of the bondage girls I meet are confused doing the scenes.

Many (not all) bondage girls like to be tied up, abused, penetrated, spit on, vibrated, etc. They WANT to lose ALL control, and they GET OFF on this, like it's a roller coaster ride or something!

My bondage site on the other hand, is like Walt Disney to them, so once again - it is the MODELS who seem to desire the really crazy stuff!

Porko · 07-05-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

Too much text...

L-Pink · 07-05-2010, 10:12 AM

I just got done throat fucking and pissing on my g/f when she's finished cleaning the puke and urine up I'll ask her opinion about this.

.

Huggles · 07-05-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g

Somehow people forget we are animals with a base instinct to fuck. The sooner we come to grip with the fact that we are not much different than monkeys the happier are lives will become.

Way to shoot for the stars, you fucking idiot.

Monkeys are a long way from creating a written language, wear clothing, or stop throwing poop. Never mind going to the moon.

People like you are why idiocracy is happening.

Huggles · 07-05-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Not saying there isn't a market...because there is. I'm just saying that when given the chance between two different sites: one with Puma Swede posing very sexy (like an old school Playboy shoot) and the other site with Puma Swede all sweaty and getting fucked by two guys in the ass...well, the majority of folks seem to migrate to seeing her in real hardcore action.

You pimp your wife.

Robbie · 07-05-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

You pimp your wife.

You troll GFY.

Huggles · 07-05-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You troll GFY.

No, I make money in this business, I just don't pretend I'm doing something awesome.

You, on the other hand, pimp out your wife.

Robbie · 07-05-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

No, I make money in this business, I just don't pretend I'm doing something awesome.

You, on the other hand, pimp out your wife.

BWAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

You don't make shit in this business. You are a nobody and a nothing begging for attention by trolling. You are a joke.

Now do you feel better "huggles"? You got some attention! Now you have meaning again in your miserable squalid little life. Carry on with your trolling. It's all you have.

Quick check of your latest posts: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search...archid=3370637

Gee, the overwhelming majority of them seem to by either you making hate filled remarks about the porn business and the people in it...OR you trying to pick fights with people. What a piece of work you are. And really? Just a common piece of trash. What you're doing is so old it's just lost any edge or shock value it may have had. Why don't you try actually having conversations on here instead of acting like a 12 year old constantly.

Huggles · 07-05-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

BWAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

You don't make shit in this business. You are a nobody and a nothing begging for attention by trolling. You are a joke.

Now do you feel better "huggles"? You got some attention! Now you have meaning again in your miserable squalid little life. Carry on with your trolling. It's all you have.

I've made some good money in this business. I also have style and class, something you can never buy.

How does it feel at the end of the day knowing you pimp out your wife?

Robbie · 07-05-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

I've made some good money in this business. I also have style and class, something you can never buy.

How does it feel at the end of the day knowing you pimp out your wife?

Proof of "style and class" or be banned!

As for "pimping out my wife"

LOL! I don't do anything like that. She has a mind of her own. And neither of us suffer from the sad sexual hangups that you obviously do. I don't believe you've ever really been in the porn biz. At most you're nothing more than a failed salesman with no grasp of sexuality. Now run along "huggles" You big playa you.

_Richard_ · 07-05-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hentaikid

*gasp*

WE HAVE GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME

no shit eh

BFT3K · 07-05-2010, 12:27 PM

I wonder how much outrage there would be if this expose' was about something important instead.

Like what if the topic of the piece was...

• The Truth About The Food Industry

• The Truth About The Oil Industry

• The Truth About The Coal Industry

• The Truth About The Banking Industry

• The Truth About The Pharmaceutical Industry

• The Truth About The Defense Industry

or almost ANY other topic, that actually MATTERED in real life?

Porn is hardly public enemy number one, if you ask me...

Shoehorn! · 07-05-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow

Born in Manchester, Dines moved to Israel in 1980, aged 22, and soon became involved in the women's movement.

That right there throws any and all credibility out the window.

gideongallery · 07-05-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Yeah and also "interviewed HUNDREDS of pornographers"

LOL!

I didn't get interviewed by this person. I don't know ANYBODY that got interviewed by this person. Did any of y'all get interviewed or know of anyone who was interviewed by this person?

Of course not.

Because of the way that pornography is persecuted by society and the authorities...we all shy away from people outside our industry wanting to do "interviews".

Unless I know your company, or your name is "AVN" or "XBIZ"...then there isn't a chance in hell that I'm going to give you an "interview".

And I don't know anybody that produces porn that is going to do that either. Especially the big boys. The only "interviews" they will give to sources outside the industry would be to big media outlets and those "interviews" are pure viral marketing.

so your secretive and that why she is inaccurate

an interview could include hiring someone to troll the board with questions to issues in the hope of getting responses from you guys.

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That statement of "interviewed hundreds of pornographers" is a complete LIE. And if a person is going to lie like that in one part of their bullshit...then how much of the rest of it is made up too? Well, those of us who are in this business know the answer to that as well.

Only people with a pre-determined bias (like gideongallery) would even give that kind of article a second look. Matter of fact, I'm not even sure what the point of posting that up on GFY was. Except to get it read by more people than it ever would have before.

my "pre-determined bias" is anti monopoly, free market competition, anti-government influencing the marketplace. My point of view is absolutely consistent around the basic principle of "your rights end where mine begin, and my rights end where yours begin"

i don't change my view on censorship depending on how much money it makes or cost me.

Robbie · 07-05-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

so your secretive and that why she is inaccurate

i don't change my view on censorship depending on how much money it makes or cost me.

Gideongallery, you are a fucking idiot.

You not only twist every law in the world to mirror your thieving bullshit. But then you twist my words to your delusions as well.

PLEASE go out and get a job. Stop living off of welfare. Actually DO something and for God's sake stop stealing shit off the internet.

You are a total clown.

InfoGuy · 07-05-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow

a number of women who said that, on a first date, they had, to their surprise, experienced their sexual partner ejaculating on their faces without asking.

This sounds like a bunch of escorts complaining about their "dates".

cam_girls · 07-05-2010, 05:31 PM

It's not black and white like you all make out.

She's obviously a simpleton to take on porn, her real battle should be violent porn.

Personally I think wrestling should be banned, pound a guys head like that in a bar and you'd go to jail.

BlackCrayon · 07-06-2010, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Hmmmmm? Just wondering what it must mean to enjoy a movie where Rambo
blows off a motherfucker's head.

lol, great point.

ottopottomouse · 07-06-2010, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

It's not black and white like you all make out.

She's obviously a simpleton to take on porn, her real battle should be violent porn.

Personally I think wrestling should be banned, pound a guys head like that in a bar and you'd go to jail.

You do realise wrestling is just a performance?

gideongallery · 07-06-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Gideongallery, you are a fucking idiot.

You not only twist every law in the world to mirror your thieving bullshit. But then you twist my words to your delusions as well.

PLEASE go out and get a job. Stop living off of welfare. Actually DO something and for God's sake stop stealing shit off the internet.

You are a total clown.

that rich
the guy who completely makes up a statement and fraudlently attributes it to me with a fake quote is accusing me of twisting his words.

xNetworx · 07-06-2010, 01:51 PM

Porn is bad mmmmmmmmmmkay

07-05-2010, 01:20 AM	#51
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07-05-2010, 07:25 AM	#56
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07-05-2010, 09:16 AM	#64
The Heron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,487	How much first hand 'research' did this author do?? Hours and hours watching porn to determine the top type of sex?? hah

07-05-2010, 09:36 AM	#66
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	It sounds crazy to the regular Joe, but when I film models for my sites, I just can't tell you how often the models are disappointed that my shoots are so soft! If I offer a model $X for 3 hours of softcore dancing and sexy modeling, verses the same $X to do a deepthroat double bj scene, 99% of the time, they would PREFER the bj scene! No shit - I kid you not! It is less work for them, it takes less than 3 hours, and when you are dealing with porn chicks, you are generally dealing with the LAZIEST people on earth (no offense porn chicks). In fact, most of the models would rather just get fucked, because it is even LESS work than a blowjob, which is WAY less work than dancing and modeling. Hardcore models generally do not like to shoot softcore! Some people are anti-porn, and I get that, but MOST of the girls in porn today, are sicker than the guys in this biz. I can easily find more girls to come in to film a gangbang scene, than I can find for fetish/softcore, which is just the opposite of 10 years ago. Many girls are watching hardcore online, and they are not imagining themselves starring in soft and loving scenes - they seem to fantasize about the very hardest and sickest stuff out there. It is often the model's fantasy that is rough nowadays... no kidding! Any other shooters out there experiencing this phenomenon, or am I alone?

07-05-2010, 09:57 AM	#68
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	This applies to bondage models too. My bondage site is a walk in the park, so many of the bondage girls I meet are confused doing the scenes. Many (not all) bondage girls like to be tied up, abused, penetrated, spit on, vibrated, etc. They WANT to lose ALL control, and they GET OFF on this, like it's a roller coaster ride or something! My bondage site on the other hand, is like Walt Disney to them, so once again - it is the MODELS who seem to desire the really crazy stuff!

07-05-2010, 10:12 AM	#70
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07-05-2010, 12:27 PM	#79
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	I wonder how much outrage there would be if this expose' was about something important instead. Like what if the topic of the piece was... • The Truth About The Food Industry • The Truth About The Oil Industry • The Truth About The Coal Industry • The Truth About The Banking Industry • The Truth About The Pharmaceutical Industry • The Truth About The Defense Industry or almost ANY other topic, that actually MATTERED in real life? Porn is hardly public enemy number one, if you ask me...

07-05-2010, 05:31 PM	#84
cam_girls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,968	It's not black and white like you all make out. She's obviously a simpleton to take on porn, her real battle should be violent porn. Personally I think wrestling should be banned, pound a guys head like that in a bar and you'd go to jail.

07-06-2010, 01:51 PM	#88
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Porn is bad mmmmmmmmmmkay