If you host at MojoHost: BEWARE

[Marcus Aurelius]

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/978914-sued-tube-blame-accountant-post17350904.html


According to this, sounds like Brad Mitchell is up to now good:

http://www.corbinfisher.com/CFvsDudeVu.pdf

JULY 19, 2010 - SAN DIEGO, CA - STRANGE TWIST IN CF SUIT VS. DUDEVU

Adult studio, Corbin Fisher filed a well-reported lawsuit in November 2009 against the gay tube site, DudeVu. As Corbin Fisher's legal machine geared up, the owners of the site shut it down, but Corbin Fisher sought to bring those behind the site to justice. "They were stealing content," said COO Brian Dunlap. "We weren't going to just let all the prior theft go because they stopped after we went after them. By that point, they'd caused us and numerous other adult studios considerable damage and had illegally distributed stolen content for a good, long while. Just as every single adult content producer is very aware of the damage caused by content theft, we firmly believe every single party guilty of stealing and illegally distributing content should be held accountable."

Today, the case took an interesting twist, as a party that was previously not heard from stepped forward with facts that are potentially damning for defendants David Griffiths a/k/a Tyler Roblan of tylersroom.net, the web hosting company MojoHost, and its CEO, Brad Mitchell.

The Dudevu.com domain name was previously registered to a person by the name of Gail Marion. In court documents filed earlier this year, Griffiths attempted to blame the operation of the site on Gail Marion, and MojoHost and Brad Mitchell both disavowed any knowledge of the inner workings of Dudevu. However, upon learning that the other defendants in the case were essentially using her as a patsy, Marion came forward with an affidavit, sworn under penalty of perjury, that not only did Griffiths run the site, but Brad Mitchell and MojoHost were not mere passive actors in the enterprise.

Marion's sworn statement contains a number of emails between her and Griffiths in which MojoHost and Mitchell's involvement seems to be much more active than their court pleadings suggest. "This certainly is important evidence," said Marc J. Randazza, Corbin Fisher's general counsel. "There was a while where we were not even sure that Ms. Marion existed. While Griffiths was claiming to us she was the party responsible for DudeVu's infringing activities, we suspected she was possibly an alias - a made-up name. We are pleased that she came forward, and we eagerly anticipate Brad Mitchell and David Griffith's statements once they read Ms. Marion's documents." In one such e-mail, Griffiths states to Marion he is, "... tired of taking the fall for Brad [Mitchell]...", who Griffiths then goes on to state was actually in charge of the DudeVu website.

If MojoHost and Mitchell are proven to have been active participants in the Dudevu venture, it would seem to be inconsistent with MojoHosts's prior public relations campaign in which MojoHost claimed that it would never host a tube site, given their commitment to the adult entertainment industry. However, Marion's documents suggest that MojoHost and Mitchell had provided Dudevu with free web servers and other support and, if e-mails sent by David Griffiths to Gail Marion are to be believed, that Brad Mitchell himself may have controlled the Dudevu website at the time of the alleged infringements.

This comes on the heels of similar testimony being provided by individuals who spoke to Mitchell at various functions such as the Phoenix Forum. "We have a number of witnesses who have provided sworn statements that contradict what Mr. Mitchell has argued so far," said Randazza.

Now ask yourself this: is MojoHost the kind of place you want to have your sites hosted at? Who knows what else they are involved in and what are the guarantees your servers won't magically disappear one day, after some court ruling.

The fact that these assholes tried to blame it all on their accountant speaks volumes of their integrity.

[Chosen]

Thanks for the info...

[Barefootsies]

[Socks]

Brad Mitchell baby pics:

[BJ]

why anyone would use anything other than national net is beyond me

[SteveLightspeed]

Sounds to me like David Griffiths is trying to pin the blame on anyone but himself, first on Gail Marion and now on Brad.

I'd suggest everyone waits for all the facts to come out before deciding to take Griffiths' word on anything. Brad deserves the benefit of the doubt.

[facialfreak]

I agree with Steve.

Brad has always been a very standup businessman ... a dedicated father, and a very dutiful husband. He has been through alot, and stayed on top. Let's not be too quick to throw him to the dogs before obtaining all the facts.

Anybody who has known Brad for any time, will be very hesitant to jump on the "Let's lynch this fucker" bandwagon ...

AFAIK, Brad is one of the good guys in this biz (a list Steve belongs on too ) ... We really need to approach this with kids gloves and see what details/facts come out of it ...

IMHO ... Marcus sounds like somebody with a bit of a vendetta at this point.

[Socks]

Mojohost has been a blessing for me, and Brad Mitchell has always been very fair. My last host was a nightmare multiplied. Would recommend Mojo as a host any day.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Socks

Mojohost has been a blessing for me, and Brad Mitchell has always been very fair. My last host was a nightmare multiplied. Would recommend Mojo as a host any day.

Brad and MOJO are top notch.

Looking forward to the Florida show and Brad's latest stories and Hawaiian shirt.

[Brujah]

I remember when he posted about changing his mind and deciding to start allowing tube sites. I hoped he wouldn't regret that change. If he was just doing the hosting though, the DMCA should protect him shouldn't it?

[st0ned]

Hmm interesting to say the least. I sure hope this is simply someone trying to place the blame elsewhere. I have quite a few sites hosted with mojo...

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by Brujah

I remember when he posted about changing his mind and deciding to start allowing tube sites. I hoped he wouldn't regret that change. If he was just doing the hosting though, the DMCA should protect him shouldn't it?

Correct me if I were wrong but the DMCA had hosts and portals in mind when crafting out the "safe harbor" provisions to copyright law. Best to contact an IP lawyer though.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Brujah

If he was just doing the hosting though, the DMCA should protect him shouldn't it?

That depends on...

1. Legally how his company is set up in regards to LLC.
2. Level of direct involvement.

If, on paper, he is 'just the host'. Then as long as he is in DMCA compliance, yes. However, they are asserting he is DIRECTLY involved via correspondence. So that is a completely different ball game.

All the same. I am sure that Brad and MOJO will come out of this with shining colors, and people will have forgotten about this madness in a week. It will be back to business as usual. In the end, few really care about this nor will it effect their decisions. But for a few days, it will provide some message board fodder.

[$5 submissions]

Worst thing the defendants could do is break out into this song:

[BAKO]

Shut the fuck up you idiot

[seeandsee]

I am secure on cyberwurx!

[BigDeanEvans]

Originally Posted by Socks

Mojohost has been a blessing for me, and Brad Mitchell has always been very fair. My last host was a nightmare multiplied. Would recommend Mojo as a host any day.

Yeah, sure thing..until he takes all your videos and makes a tube site out of it.

[BAKO]

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

Yeah, sure thing..until he takes all your videos and makes a tube site out of it.

That's nice a nice thing to say at all, Hopefully mods will see this thread

[BigDeanEvans]

Originally Posted by BAKO

That's nice a nice thing to say at all, Hopefully mods will see this thread

Well, I've been around over a decade and i never ripped anyone off or would do some scandalous shit like , so go fuck yourself.

[TeenCat]

i remember surpasshosting ... i had passpedia there and someone just sent icq that he want to see passpedia down and passpedia went down, even if it was fully legal and doesnt violated their terms in any way. bro party sucks i say, fucking losers game

[BAKO]

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

Well, I've been around over a decade and i never ripped anyone off or would do some scandalous shit like , so go fuck yourself.

Good for you

[AdultEUhost]

I think we should wait for Brad's side of the story before jumping to any conclusions

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

That depends on...

1. Legally how his company is set up in regards to LLC.
2. Level of direct involvement.

If, on paper, he is 'just the host'. Then as long as he is in DMCA compliance, yes. However, they are asserting he is DIRECTLY involved via correspondence. So that is a completely different ball game.

All the same. I am sure that Brad and MOJO will come out of this with shining colors, and people will have forgotten about this madness in a week. It will be back to business as usual. In the end, few really care about this nor will it effect their decisions. But for a few days, it will provide some message board fodder.

if i remember the case correctly, the gay dude was backtraced by cf as going into their members area downloading all their videos for his tube.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Sounds to me like David Griffiths is trying to pin the blame on anyone but himself, first on Gail Marion and now on Brad.

I'd suggest everyone waits for all the facts to come out before deciding to take Griffiths' word on anything. Brad deserves the benefit of the doubt.

i found this interesting. wonder who ratted?

This comes on the heels of similar testimony being provided by individuals who spoke to Mitchell at various functions such as the Phoenix Forum. "We have a number of witnesses who have provided sworn statements that contradict what Mr. Mitchell has argued so far," said Randazza.

[Agent 488]

go the pdf and read the evidence admitted. an interesting read.

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Bako the Wako has to rear his fat and dumb Armenian head once again.

[nation-x]

Here is an observation... most people are idiots... it's a fact... here is why I say that. The emails that were produced are support emails I bet. The dumb fucks probably think hosting support = running the site. OP is an idiot for posting that BS... thx.

[iSpyCams]

I really hope Mojohost will be OK, I am very happy with them as a host. The level of customer service they provide is well above and beyond what I would expect from anyone, maybe this is what people have confused with "involvement".

[Agent 488]

here is a pdf of the evidence admitted:

http://www.corbinfisher.com/CFvsDudeVu.pdf

read and make your own decision.

[kowalsky]

If Brad would be involved in this, I won´t beleive in anyone else in this industry.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Sounds to me like David Griffiths is trying to pin the blame on anyone but himself, first on Gail Marion and now on Brad.

I'd suggest everyone waits for all the facts to come out before deciding to take Griffiths' word on anything. Brad deserves the benefit of the doubt.

no way Steve... I have to believe every hysterical post I read on GFY!!!

[LeRoy]

I'd like to hear the other side of the story too.

[Agent 488]

brad's statement is contained in the pdf. i doubt for legal reasons he will say anything here.

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

I agree with Steve.

Brad has always been a very standup businessman ... a dedicated father, and a very dutiful husband. He has been through alot, and stayed on top. Let's not be too quick to throw him to the dogs before obtaining all the facts.

Anybody who has known Brad for any time, will be very hesitant to jump on the "Let's lynch this fucker" bandwagon ...

AFAIK, Brad is one of the good guys in this biz (a list Steve belongs on too ) ... We really need to approach this with kids gloves and see what details/facts come out of it ...

IMHO ... Marcus sounds like somebody with a bit of a vendetta at this point.

[charlie g]

This looks like peanuts for Brad.... can't see him jeopardizing hid business for pocket change. The dude in the suit struggled to pay for his teeth. Looks like lawyers trying to get a settlement from the first big money person in the drama. Sucks to be rich sometimes.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

here is a pdf of the evidence admitted:

http://www.corbinfisher.com/CFvsDudeVu.pdf

read and make your own decision.

My decision is, guy got busted and is desperately pointing the finger in every direction he can think of.

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

i remember surpasshosting ... i had passpedia there and someone just sent icq that he want to see passpedia down and passpedia went down, even if it was fully legal and doesnt violated their terms in any way. bro party sucks i say, fucking losers game

Stop. Who owned surpasshosting? I used to have site with those idiots.

[jimmy-3-way]

Best part of that email by far - "I should have a fake iBill-like crisis so I can string people along [without paying them]"

[bdjerk]

LOOK OUT HERE COME THE ARMCHAIR INTERNET LAWYERS!!!!!

[AliGbone]

Good host or not, nice guy or not, this is business. He took a risk on hosting these tubes, and it bit him in da ass. Not to mention the negative effect tubes have had on your pocket, and da industry directly!! I do not see that as being savvy, I see that as being greedy.

I wouldn't risk leaving my business to chance of the outcome of a legal battle. These lawyers are going for blood here. Something similar happened to another host i know of an dey got raided and shut down. No tanks!

Ali G Verdict - GET OUT WHILE DA GETTINS GOOD!!!

[Jack Sparrow]

Threadstarter is an idiot and all of his retard buddies are ready posting their useless comments.

/close thread

[imabro]

biggest surprise is that mojo not using corey silverstein as attorney
thought he was recommended

[TisMe]

The same guy who once claimed that the accountant owned the site is now claiming that Brad did.

Credibility anyone?

[stickyfingerz]

Read the entire PDF, and it is utterly ridiculous that Brads name is dragged into this at all. Hope he counter sues the shit out of anyone pointing the finger at him.

4500.00 a month hosting bill, and Brad throws them a couple of servers. Never is it said what the servers were used for. Could of been couple extra to reduce sql load, could of been a couple to back up data. Whole thing is friggin ridiculous.

Where is the evidence showing that Brad was profiting from anything other than the hosting bill? Where is the evidence showing Brad had some sort of ownership? Where is the proof showing that Brad took any role other than support for his hosting company? Those accusing Brad of misdealings on this forum should be banned unless they can show proof more than hearsay posted in an email that was likely edited post lawsuit.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Read the entire PDF, and it is utterly ridiculous that Brads name is dragged into this at all. Hope he counter sues the shit out of anyone pointing the finger at him.

4500.00 a month hosting bill, and Brad throws them a couple of servers. Never is it said what the servers were used for. Could of been couple extra to reduce sql load, could of been a couple to back up data. Whole thing is friggin ridiculous.

Where is the evidence showing that Brad was profiting from anything other than the hosting bill? Where is the evidence showing Brad had some sort of ownership? Where is the proof showing that Brad took any role other than support for his hosting company? Those accusing Brad of misdealings on this forum should be banned unless they can show proof more than hearsay posted in an email that was likely edited post lawsuit.

bullshit.... hosting companies should now who they are doing business with.. i dont think brad is involved in this one bit, but the fact is that as a hosting company that is well aware of the situation with tubes and stolen content, he should have kept a better eye on his business..

are you going to tell me that they never saw and DMCA requests from corbin?

before i pass any judgement i will wait to see the communication between corbin and mojohost to see if mojo never got any notification from corbin or if they just chose to ignore it..

i hope this serves a lesson to other hosts to know their customers and be cautious dealing with tubesites...




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[TisMe]

If you read the data in the PDF, they got a DMCA and the content was removed within 48 hours.

EDIT - Paragraph 24 of Brad's statement.

In no way does this mean that Brad owned the site as alleged or did anything different from most other hosts.

[Agent 488]

these gay programs are vicious and going after hosts, tube site owners, torrent sharers, dvd ebay sellers, and winning. would not want to be in their crosshairs.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

bullshit.... hosting companies should now who they are doing business with..

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

bullshit.... hosting companies should now who they are doing business with.. i dont think brad is involved in this one bit, but the fact is that as a hosting company that is well aware of the situation with tubes and stolen content, he should have kept a better eye on his business..

are you going to tell me that they never saw and DMCA requests from corbin?

before i pass any judgement i will wait to see the communication between corbin and mojohost to see if mojo never got any notification from corbin or if they just chose to ignore it..

i hope this serves a lesson to other hosts to know their customers and be cautious dealing with tubesites...




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Did you read the pdf? Hosting companies (as you are well aware) have to work with the laws as they are written. If they start patrolling their content it starts a precedent to open them up to being liable for what they host, hence causing them to HAVE to patrol all their content. DMCA whether its a blessing or a curse to content produces, hosts, etc, exists and has to be followed. Mojohost responded 100% correctly to the dmca's they received as per the PDF that was posted. There was 0 proof shown that mojohost was anymore involved than being a professional host that followed the letter of the law.

Again I hope he counter sues the shit out of them for accusing him, and I hope those that posted in a slanderous / libelous way against Brad and Mojohost get their asses sent on vacation.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

i think thats stretching a bit.....





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