Do you run a model directory, pornstar list, tgp or similar site? Step inside please.

[matuloo]

Do you run a model directory, pornstar database or some similar site aimed at pornstars or hot models? I am looking for quality site owners to exchange model specific links and traffic with. My site is http://www.smutmodels.com/ and I can import your links in any way you like as well as create custom export feed for you. I can also give you some links on my other sites, simply something to benefit us both.

My icq : 38085747 or email : matuloo pornadept com or just post here

If it cant stay here, mods please move the thread. Thanks.

[Wizzo]

Good looking site! You should be promoting Ten.com from Smartbucks as well!

[NaughtyRob]

Wow very nice site indeed.

[matuloo]

Thanks for the kind words I will be adding plenty of sponsors soon, just have to publish what I have for now, it takes a lot of time

[matuloo]

I had a someone contact me, but still nobody with a bigger model site, are there any active webmasters left on this forum? It used to create much bigger response in the past

[CaptainWolfy]

what CMS are u using? And would you be interested in swaping links on for example modelsname.domain.net domain.net is blog for teens models and subdomains are models pages(blogs)?

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by empty1987

what CMS are u using? And would you be interested in swaping links on for example modelsname.domain.net domain.net is blog for teens models and subdomains are models pages(blogs)?

CMS is custom written, but my coder is able to import any feed as well as create custom output, just tell me what you need. And of course we can exhange links in such a way, just give me some list that I could use and match the names.

[dr.BoB]

Originally Posted by matuloo

I had a someone contact me, but still nobody with a bigger model site, are there any active webmasters left on this forum? It used to create much bigger response in the past

fisrt turn off your bot and stop grabbing info from my site definebabe

[barelist]

Originally Posted by dr.BoB

fisrt turn off your bot and stop grabbing info from my site definebabe

Lol thought it was impressive that he had so many bios already written :p

[dr.BoB]

I?d like to let all the models sites, which DefineBabe.com trades links with, know that if you decided to trade links with SmutModels.com, I?ll delete all the links between us. The SmutModel.com site has grabbed the structure of DB.com, but that?s not the point. The worst thing was that they grabbed without any permission the aliases information that I spent so much time and efforts getting together.

It?s up to you to decide with whom you want to trade: whether with a small filcher that doesn?t have traffic and good search positions, or with the DefineBabe.com site that gained its name and authority with long-time work.

Lol thought it was impressive that he had so many bios already written

looks like they grab it not only from DB. from different site. I hate agregators

[Rebel D]

Great Chatting With You. Hope i helped

[Roald]

Originally Posted by dr.BoB

fisrt turn off your bot and stop grabbing info from my site definebabe

Well well aint that a bitch

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by dr.BoB

fisrt turn off your bot and stop grabbing info from my site definebabe

1. First of all, you can believe me or not, I didnt copy your layout. When I was making plans for the site I didnt know your site even existed. I simply put things I want there on paper and made some basic layout to send the designer. When I found out about your site, I saw plenty of similar things there, thats true, but that was simply not the intention. It just happened to be similar. I never copied anyones work, nor will I do it in the future. There is only a number of things you can put on a site like this, and I did just that.

I can understand you are upset about this, just as I was upset when review sites started to pop up one after another, all having pretty much the same layout as I did on pornadept.com, os any other review site for that matter. But I realized its just the way these sites will look and cant do anything with it.

Its the same with TGP sites, tubes etc ... its simply going to look simmilar no matter how hard you try to make it look different. I repeat, I didnt know about definebabe.com when I started to develop this site, which quite a long time ago.

2. regarding the aliases - I collected the aliases by using google, info from paysites etc ... pretty much the same way I am sure you collected your aliases. Where did you get your aliases from? You called the models? I am sure you used the same method as I did, there is a ton of sites with bios, aliases etc out there and just like me, you collect them from various sources, you didnt get them from any special place where you would have special permission from.

I am sorry we got to this problem, I understand your position, thou it was not intentional to get into something like this, I never copied your site, nor did I steal your aliases.

As to those who decide to not trade with me because of this, I understand you, no hard feelings, thou I feel drBoB is over reacting here. I am no small filcher, the site has traffic just as it has SE positiong and more are to come.

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by barelist

Lol thought it was impressive that he had so many bios already written :p

All the bios are custom written, not taken from anywhere else.

[Roald]

lol If we stopped working with everybody who copied FreeOnes there would be none left. Everything we came up was copied within weeks lol

[barelist]

Originally Posted by Roald

lol If we stopped working with everybody who copied FreeOnes there would be none left. Everything we came up was copied within weeks lol

At least he should admit that he took info from sites of other webmasters on here...

[Raf1]

nice looking site you got there. As for taking the aliases from other sites, well that's not too hot...

[ContentPimp]

Dr. Bob those are some harsh words.

Facts are facts, such as aliases babes go by, their age, hair color, eye color, height, etc etc. can't change and just because its on YOUR site it doesn't mean it can't be used to draft unique, handwritten descriptions.

People make unique articles from wikipedia definitions and facts. I don't see WikiPedia bitching.

Smutmodels is a high quality site, with 100% original handwritten profiles & gallery descriptions based on facts that were gathered on the internet as matuloo said.

It's worth it to trade links with quality sites like SmutModels, and SM looks quite good resulting in a better user experience then the site you are defending.

[dr.BoB]

Supposedly we came up with the same layout for our sites. OK

Concerning the Aliases information, I did look for that in Google, but not only there. I won?t set my cards on the table. But I do have evidences that you?ve grabbed this information from the DefineBabe.com site. Here is the example, model Nikki Benz.
http://www.smutmodels.com/nikki-benz/21558
http://www.definebabe.com/models/0n0/nikki-benz/
Please, show me any paysite where there is the Aliases of Niki Benz (only one K in her name)
I have my own database of ?wrong? searches on my site, where I found that users do make such searches and that?s why I added this alliance in her profile.

Do you still want to continue this discussion that you?ve grabbed all the information in Google?

[dr.BoB]

Originally Posted by matuloo

All the bios are custom written, not taken from anywhere else.

your site -

Nikki Benz is a sexy chick, born in Ukraine, and moved to Toronto, Canada at young age. She was born as Alla Montchak but is also known as Niki Benz, Nikky Benz, Nikkie Benz or Nikke Benz. Hot blonde with hazel eyes is 5 feet and 5 inches tall with size 7 feet and weighs only 110 pounds.

Her impressively big tits along with her other sexy assets measure 34D-24-34. She has couple of piercings on her body and sexy tattoo. Apart from being a porn actress she also featured on foxsports.com. Hot Eastern European has her own official website and inher spare time updates her profiles on Twitter and MySpace and enjoys fantasy football. Nikki Benz is an exceptionally hot perfomer.

freeones

Moved to Toronto, Canada at a young age but was originally
born in the Ukraine. Is Canadian by Nationality. Loves
fantasy football. Was on foxsports.com the cube video as
herself
Black leopard on lower back (getting lazered out); flower onright wrist
Used to have tongue and nipples, currently only navel and ears.

Take text from Freeones, add some keywords, add som worsd about "facts" - "bios are custom written"

[barelist]

Originally Posted by dr.BoB

I have my own database of ?wrong? searches on my site, where I found that users do make such searches and that?s why I added this alliance in her profile.

Have the same tracking running on Barelist, haven't had time to put it in place yet.

for that

[ContentPimp]

You didn't reinvent the wheel here dr.Bob, you just simply added some misspellings as 'aliases'.

Next time put a notice: These are not real aliases, I've made them up because ... i'm a superstar )

[barelist]

Suggested to dr.Bob to put some anti spider protection up.

Over the years I've had a few mainstream sites completely ripped off, had to write the anti spider protection myself after that.

At least now with IIS it's built in... it won't be perfect but I'm sure it would help

Oh yeah... you won't get anywhere by pissing people off in this industry... your best source of initial traffic will come from similar sites to yours :p

[dr.BoB]

it is not only about 1 "misspellings". I make only 1 example to show that he just grabe my base.

[ContentPimp]

dr Bob, and where'd you get the facts about the girls on your site? You too "copied" some place right?

[matuloo]

mrBob, I manually post the models and I alreaddy added plenty of misspellings there, simply because I know that people misspell all the time. All the bios are CUSTOM written, I hire writers to do that, I give them data I found, they write the descriptions, there is no copying involved. The facts are from many resources, you know very well how many model databases are out there, fan pages, movie compoanies have profiles etc ... I simply google a model, look over the sites I found and in case I see the same info on several sites, I put a note for the model, then hand it over to the writers. I am sure you are doing just the same.

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by barelist

Suggested to dr.Bob to put some anti spider protection up.

Over the years I've had a few mainstream sites completely ripped off, had to write the anti spider protection myself after that.

At least now with IIS it's built in... it won't be perfect but I'm sure it would help

Oh yeah... you won't get anywhere by pissing people off in this industry... your best source of initial traffic will come from similar sites to yours :p

I dont use any spiders, all info is manually collected from various sources, like on any other site of this type.

[matuloo]

dr.Bob, can I assume this heat has went away and we can burry the war axe, or do we need to talk about this matter more? Id preffer a peacefull solution, Iam not into board wars at all.

[HomerSimpson]

niiiiiiiice looking site...
I have a site but it isn't finished yet...

[fear]

Looking good, I`ll send you an e-mail

[Wiredoctor]

Good info to be had in this thread.... It's all about BigJuicyNipples

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by fear

Looking good, I`ll send you an e-mail

Thanks, reply sent.

[matuloo]

I think drBobs reaction and silence is pretty much self explanatory, like I said, I understand why he got upset in the first place, but thats pretty much about it, he realized it by now. So lets start the trades people. Two trades are in the works but I certainly need more, barelist you are certainly very welcome to start one too.

[dr.BoB]

My silence was due to the weekend which I prefer to spend with my family rather than wasting time arguing with cheaters. I?ve already pointed the facts that you grabbed my aliases and rewrite the texts from FreeOnes.com. Once again, no model site associates models as FTV (name) or (name) Nublies, you grabbed it all.

To my partners, it?s up to you to trade with him or not. It?s your business, and I?m not going to interfere with it.

I don?t want to waste time to talk small, I have lots of things to do.

P.S. Matuloo, please, don?t cry, if tomorrow I?ll grab your review and model sites, add some keywords and put it all online. I?ll contact you to offer a trade link

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by dr.BoB

My silence was due to the weekend which I prefer to spend with my family rather than wasting time arguing with cheaters. I’ve already pointed the facts that you grabbed my aliases and rewrite the texts from FreeOnes.com. Once again, no model site associates models as FTV (name) or (name) Nublies, you grabbed it all.

To my partners, it’s up to you to trade with him or not. It’s your business, and I’m not going to interfere with it.

I don’t want to waste time to talk small, I have lots of things to do.

P.S. Matuloo, please, don’t cry, if tomorrow I’ll grab your review and model sites, add some keywords and put it all online. I’ll contact you to offer a trade link

Well, if you want to look at it this way, your call.

You see how other people react, everybody understands all info on sites like this is compiled from all over the net, nobody owns the information, nor does anyone own the aliases or models data.

I said that already and I can say it here again, no texts were copied, I pay outsourced writers to write unique descriptions for me, nothing is rewritten from freeones. If I have the same data in my texts, its because its a fact.

If you copy my reviews that I paid for to get them written i will of course do all possible I can to stop you from doing so. This something completely different.

So you find a model named Andrea on Nubiles, list her as "Andrea Nubiles" on your site and that means you own the alias or you invented it? Give me a break. I made up plenty of the aliases I have on smutmodels.com, I add or take away a letter, exchange W with V, sometimes K with C ... so that means those aliases are mine from now on? Sooner or later some of them will get copied by someone ... so WHAT? I dont understand why I should get angry about it.

And you still didnt answer the question someone gave you - where did you get your aliases from? You called the models? You asked for their permission to use them? Or you simply took them from other sites, resources, wiki sites etc ... how would you like if some of those sites owner would call you a flincher a copycat or a cheater? And we all know very well you got the info from other sites too, cause there is no other way to do it. So you are ok to take info from some other sites, but if you get the feeling someone took some data from your site, its suddenly a completely different situation, right?

I am being called a cheater and a filcher by a guy who did EXACTLY the same in the past and is still doing it on a daily basis. Of course he collects data from other sites, just as I do, its not possible to do it in a different way. Yet what he is doing is ok and nobody else is allowed to do it? I invested thousands of dollars into the texts, yet he calls me a copy cat, claiming I rewrite freeones texts, its BS and I dont like to get accused of something I didnt do.

[barelist]

Originally Posted by matuloo

barelist you are certainly very welcome to start one too.

I have a great relationship with definebabe, so when you guys work this all out we can talk about it

I've been trading with dr.BoB for a while now

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by barelist

I have a great relationship with definebabe, so when you guys work this all out we can talk about it

I've been trading with dr.BoB for a while now

Well, he already stated on one other forum that he is not going to interfere with whom other webmasters can trade links with. Obviously we are never gonna have a good relationship with drBob, he feels he is in the right. I have a different stand here but I think we're not gonna shake hands here. So its down to whether you feel I did something wrong or not, you got to decide.