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stocktrader23 · 07-26-2010, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

im new to this shit, whats a tgp?

What is a fris?

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Originally Posted by ruff

I remember back in 2001, I was making easy money with solo amateur girl sites on an AVS. I wish I would have had the hindsight to do some other things, like get the fuck out of the AVS and into my own program. Back then there were already major TPG sites in play and I really had no idea how to compete with those guys. (no submitter programs then) Not to mention the mechanics of setting everything up, managing a server and paying for bandwidth. It's easy now to be critical of decisions made back then with what people know now. For instance, I never even gave webcams a thought back then. I'm not even sure I had an ISP that could handle it. Making thousands of dollars a week, I was even getting shaved every 5th sale and rebill (found this out later). Thought it would never end. $6000 a month and you have to work 40 hrs a week to do wasn't worth it then when there was other ways to make large money. There wasn't any AVN show or webmaster hulabaloos back then, it was every man for himself. Really like the wild west. A lot of you new guys and girls don't realize what those days were like.

I was making that much money as a webcam affiliate! I wanted my own cam site and even asked many of the credit card people around town but they all told me they couldn't process it. I didn't know anything about iBill much less coding, server management etc. Soon after the laws started getting scary so I didn't want anything to do with it anyhow. A lot of the new guys in 2003 didn't have a clue either.

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Originally Posted by Atticus

Thanks for the link. You're right, it was a fun read. However I think the two really complement each other. For example you describing creating a porn empire on an AOL email addy back in 2003 really brings out the LOL's when you're asking people to invest under $10k on a cant miss opportunity in 2010.

Dude, I pulled $20,000 per month of off AOL without chat spamming, stealing accounts, etc. Talk all the shit you want but AOL was where everyone with a credit card hung out to talk about sex. You don't know shit.

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

lol that stocktrader pimp is a real treasure for gfy

Finally, someone gets it.

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Originally Posted by Raf1

lol at the bullshit in this thread...

GFY has always been full of idiots, like the haters in this thread.

John-ACWM · 07-26-2010, 02:08 AM

At least it's a funny thread

Paul Markham · 07-26-2010, 03:29 AM

Never throw anything away if it's making money. Develop it so it makes more.

CYF · 07-26-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Never throw anything away if it's making money. Develop it so it makes more.

best advice in the whole thread right here

will76 · 07-26-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I also shut down a nearly hands free business when it dropped to $1,200 per month.

Damn times have changed.

if it was nearly hands free, as in took less than 5 hours a month to make you a profit of 1200 a month why would you turn down $250 a hour ? Or you could have hired someone at $10 hour and paid them $50 a month to run it and not bother you and you still cleared an extra $8000 a year.

will76 · 07-26-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I run a couple of offline businesses that I've been expanding for 2 years during a downturn in the economy. I have a partner in those businesses and all 'extra' money we get goes right back into growing them further. Myself, I just get a little old weekly draw that I use to take care of my family and my own life. I had a decent pile of money stockpiled but I have a couple of family members with serious health problems that I'm helping out and I'm not in the mood to tap into that either.

As for the post you referenced, I was purposefully vague but you've misunderstood what I was saying. I do have a mainstream business (not just a site) that I am in the process of getting off the ground. It is going up no matter what, I don't need anything. It would however benefit from a few ($x,xxx to $xx,xxx not $1,000) for design, coding, initial promotion, etc. It's not necessary but it would make my life easier. Besides, I like working with others. The internet is a boring place when you're plugging along by yourself and I actually hate it at this point.

In short, I would happily share this business with an interested party but it's not required. Once they see it, they'll shit bricks.

Cheers

email me the info, I have money to invest.

Pipecrew · 07-26-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

if it was nearly hands free, as in took less than 5 hours a month to make you a profit of 1200 a month why would you turn down $250 a hour ? Or you could have hired someone at $10 hour and paid them $50 a month to run it and not bother you and you still cleared an extra $8000 a year.

I have seen stuff like this before, usually means you were in jail.

stocktrader23 · 07-26-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

if it was nearly hands free, as in took less than 5 hours a month to make you a profit of 1200 a month why would you turn down $250 a hour ? Or you could have hired someone at $10 hour and paid them $50 a month to run it and not bother you and you still cleared an extra $8000 a year.

I started making $15,000 to $20,000 per month on eBay in 1999 but I worked 100 hours a week and my wife worked around 70. That started to slow down so I started looking for other things. I found Clickcash in 2001 and made somewhere around $800 in 3 days talking people into signing up by hand. I started dropping computers online into AOL chatrooms and bumped that up to $20,000 to $30,000 per month. The only work I was doing was adding more computers to my pile and dealing with the networking. Eventually AOL had enough and booted all of my accounts, as well as the new ones I started with friends credit cards.

I had already been exploring new traffic and when things died I went into overdrive. I bounced everything over to Yahoo and picked right back up at $20,000+ per month. This was the easiest money I ever made in my life. It took around 1 hour per day (usually less) to reboot all of my computers, start up software and leave. I was renting an office by this time and kept my computers online there. Eventually Yahoo shut down the area I was exploiting and my income from that went from $20,000+ per month to around $1,200 per month literally overnight. After deciding that they were not going to 'fix' the stuff I was using to get sales I pulled the plug, left my lease and used some of the cash I had saved to start an offline business.

There are a few reasons I decided to leave it all offline. I was worried a bit about being sued by Yahoo and $1,200 wasn't worth the risk where $20,000 or more was. Also, it's hard to explain this to broke people here but maybe you'll understand. I was extremely young at the time and confident as you can be. I knew that anything I threw my time into would pay off so I was damned sure going to find something to get back on top. I was used to making a ton of money on everything I attempted and going from $20,000 to $1,200 seemed about the same as going from $20,000 to $0. It was equally devastating in my opinion. I had a new business to start, a newborn to deal with, a fairly new wife, a new home to attend to with a big yard to maintain, and I was doing something every waking hour of the day. I said 'Fuck It' and that was that.

stocktrader23 · 07-26-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

email me the info, I have money to invest.

I have no problem discussing this with you but you're going to have to give me a few days. No offense but you seem to be one of the handful of people here that might have the funds and desire to drop something similar online without my assistance.

Let me get a bit of a head start then I'll check to see if you are interested. ;)

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

I have seen stuff like this before, usually means you were in jail.

lazycash · 07-26-2010, 04:55 PM

That same tgp making 6k/mo in 2001 is now making $200/mo in 2010.

fris · 07-26-2010, 04:55 PM

Jail jail jail

Agent 488 · 07-26-2010, 05:01 PM

that's the worst part of going to jail, the criminal record makes it almost impossible to get a legit job so the only way the ex-con can survive and provide is going back to their old shady ways.

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