So what has the industry done to combat piracy? - GoFuckYourself.com

cthulhu_waves · 07-30-2010, 08:00 AM

It seems with the popularity of Mobile technology, mobile apps. the Apple and Android phones, the reaction of porn by foreign countries. and all the big distractions that had crossed the end of 2009 and 2010, has there been significant advances made by the industry to combat piracy? I have been trying to find new and promising announcements in the news about this, but it seems no one is really taking any real active step to do so.

I may be wrong with my statement, but have you known anything new that's worth mentioning? How closer are we in really defeating piracy? Or has this issue been relegated to the back burners?

Agent 488 · 07-30-2010, 08:05 AM

hay programs are aggressive and winning battles, straight ones not so much.

Barefootsies · 07-30-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cthulhu_waves

So what has the industry done to combat piracy?

They make daily threads on multiple boards crying in their beers about it.

There has to be someone to blame for their lack of innovation on their 1999 site with 100 scenes that has not been updated since 2005. It's a real mystery why a site that is not updated, or maintained does not retain or convert anymore. Especially when you have a network of them. Or for years programs have banged their cards on upsells and cross sales they did not want.

Oh well, soon most of these guys will be gone and those of us left will get back to bidness.

Quentin · 07-30-2010, 11:03 AM

Well, "the industry" is probably never going to do anything as a single colossus acting in concert. The FSC has tried to rally people around their APAP effort, but you know what they say about herding cats.... particularly when you're asking the cats in question to put up significant sums of money as part of being herded.

At the end of the day, it is up to individual IP rights holders to protect their IP. Some have taken measures to do so, others haven't.

I'm pretty comfortable with the efforts we at Pink Visual/TopBucks have put in to combating and offsetting content piracy, really.

LAJ · 07-30-2010, 11:50 AM

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Paul Markham · 07-31-2010, 02:36 AM

Let's take a reality pill here please.

Online earnings/profits are falling.

The big guys don't make enough to start these type of lawsuits.

Some even have told me pirated content is like an advert for their site.

some people even believe piracy does not represent a lost sale.

Going after pirates in court is a very expensive business.

The likelihood of winning is slim.

There are hundreds of pirates to chase.

It's far cheaper to send out DMCAs even if they have little effect.

Going after the uploaders might be a better bet, but still more expensive than the return.

Most porn is cloned and stereotyped scenes. If one producer removes hot content is still leaves 1,000 other similar scenes out there for free.

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The answer to piracy lies in having something they can't compete with, appeals to the porn customer more and he's willing to buy.

DWB · 07-31-2010, 03:53 AM

I don't know what the industry has done but I hammer away with DMCA's, I've done some interesting things with videos (for new content) that seems to be keeping them off most the tubes for now. Injecting user date into photos seems to be keeping photo sets off boards. File hosting seems to be becoming less of an issue. So yea, I'm trying. It's a never ending work in progress.

You'll never beat the torrents but I believe people who use torrents are not consumers anyway. But you can beat most of the tubes and a lot of the file sharing. Not all, but a lot.

You're never going to beat piracy 100%. You can only reduce it. How much you reduce it is up to how outside the box you are able to think.

TeenCat · 07-31-2010, 03:58 AM

better close, run and cry

07-30-2010, 08:00 AM	#1
cthulhu_waves Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 1,966	So what has the industry done to combat piracy? It seems with the popularity of Mobile technology, mobile apps. the Apple and Android phones, the reaction of porn by foreign countries. and all the big distractions that had crossed the end of 2009 and 2010, has there been significant advances made by the industry to combat piracy? I have been trying to find new and promising announcements in the news about this, but it seems no one is really taking any real active step to do so. I may be wrong with my statement, but have you known anything new that's worth mentioning? How closer are we in really defeating piracy? Or has this issue been relegated to the back burners? __________________ DATINGFACTORY.COM WE BUILD YOUR BRAND, NOT OURS! Private Label *Dating* Solutions & Affiliate *Dating* Network.

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Quentin Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,280	Well, "the industry" is probably never going to do anything as a single colossus acting in concert. The FSC has tried to rally people around their APAP effort, but you know what they say about herding cats.... particularly when you're asking the cats in question to put up significant sums of money as part of being herded. At the end of the day, it is up to individual IP rights holders to protect their IP. Some have taken measures to do so, others haven't. I'm pretty comfortable with the efforts we at Pink Visual/TopBucks have put in to combating and offsetting content piracy, really. __________________ Q. Boyer

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07-31-2010, 02:36 AM	#6
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Let's take a reality pill here please. Online earnings/profits are falling. The big guys don't make enough to start these type of lawsuits. Some even have told me pirated content is like an advert for their site. some people even believe piracy does not represent a lost sale. Going after pirates in court is a very expensive business. The likelihood of winning is slim. There are hundreds of pirates to chase. It's far cheaper to send out DMCAs even if they have little effect. Going after the uploaders might be a better bet, but still more expensive than the return. Most porn is cloned and stereotyped scenes. If one producer removes hot content is still leaves 1,000 other similar scenes out there for free. ************************ The answer to piracy lies in having something they can't compete with, appeals to the porn customer more and he's willing to buy. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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07-31-2010, 03:53 AM	#7
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I don't know what the industry has done but I hammer away with DMCA's, I've done some interesting things with videos (for new content) that seems to be keeping them off most the tubes for now. Injecting user date into photos seems to be keeping photo sets off boards. File hosting seems to be becoming less of an issue. So yea, I'm trying. It's a never ending work in progress. You'll never beat the torrents but I believe people who use torrents are not consumers anyway. But you can beat most of the tubes and a lot of the file sharing. Not all, but a lot. You're never going to beat piracy 100%. You can only reduce it. How much you reduce it is up to how outside the box you are able to think.