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Old 08-04-2010, 09:49 PM   #51
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site looks great - go get that biz!
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:56 PM   #52
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By the way, didn't really read Kevin's post, didn't notice he spammed himself already.

If anyone is interested in advertising on KevinBlatt.com, hit either KB or D$ up. Non porn sites only, gotta get those mainstream links.

darren at marketingfirm.com

There, now it's a business thread.

Watch KB get famous with this. All this press he's been getting, now he can get links for himself.

I'll be putting some time into this site, lot's of updates and KB in the field. We're going to put some funny stuff up.
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Quick question D$: What is the URL for http://www.kevinblatt.com again?
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:06 PM   #54
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Thanks! Did u get my voicemail about Hustler doing that big artilce on me next month, and using the pic you took of Shay Laren and I?

I'd like to get u some photo credit!
No prob...

Print needs to be 300dpi (not web quality 72dpi), so it's best for you/Hustler to get the larger images and manipulate/edit them as you see fit.



Just tell me how to get the large (print quality) files to you...

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No prob...

Print needs to be 300dpi (not web quality 72dpi), so it's best for you/Hustler to get the larger images and manipulate/edit them as you see fit.



Just tell me how to get the large (print quality) files to you...

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Thanks ADG

i will send you an email address.
Were there more pics than the ones you posted originally?
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Well, KB, take comfort in knowing that if you make mainstream advertising and porn fuse together you will still have people talking shit about you.

Congrats on the opportunity! You either have something huge on your hands of a giant flop waiting to happen. Hoping it turns out to be huge!

I hope the people that matter in advertising are paying attention to how this movie is being promoted.
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Thanks ADG

i will send you an email address.

Were there more pics than the ones you posted originally?
I have 17 photos of you and Shay together, that average 3Mb each (over 50Mb altogether), so if I can put them on a CD or FTP them to you, that will probably work better.







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WI hope the people that matter in advertising are paying attention to how this movie is being promoted.
I bet they are.

This could actually be the "revenue stream" that idiot gideongallery is always babbling about.

No mainstream companies have ever accepted advertising from porn. But I am just sitting here thinking of the giant multimillion dollar advertising budgets of movies, cigarette companies (who literally have been banned from advertising everywhere EXCEPT adult), liquor companies, etc. that have NEVER done advertising on a porn site.

The pre-paid ad spots are dancing before my eyes right now. I am ready, willing, and able to sell premium targeted ad spots in all of CM's videos.

Liquor companies...she drinks Southern Comfort. Cigarette companies...she smokes Marlboro. Bra companies...she wears a 38 G size. And shoe companies? Just line up! She has more shoes than Imelda Marcos did.
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I bet they are.

This could actually be the "revenue stream" that idiot gideongallery is always babbling about.

No mainstream companies have ever accepted advertising from porn. But I am just sitting here thinking of the giant multimillion dollar advertising budgets of movies, cigarette companies (who literally have been banned from advertising everywhere EXCEPT adult), liquor companies, etc. that have NEVER done advertising on a porn site.

The pre-paid ad spots are dancing before my eyes right now. I am ready, willing, and able to sell premium targeted ad spots in all of CM's videos.

Liquor companies...she drinks Southern Comfort. Cigarette companies...she smokes Marlboro. Bra companies...she wears a 38 G size. And shoe companies? Just line up! She has more shoes than Imelda Marcos did.
Good point there!

Many of the advertising restrictions on the tobacco and liquor industries are predicated upon keeping them from advertising to minors, since minors are not allowed to purchase/use their products, which is basically the same for adult businesses.

Seems like a natural fit to me...

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I bet they are.

This could actually be the "revenue stream" that idiot gideongallery is always babbling about.

No mainstream companies have ever accepted advertising from porn. But I am just sitting here thinking of the giant multimillion dollar advertising budgets of movies, cigarette companies (who literally have been banned from advertising everywhere EXCEPT adult), liquor companies, etc. that have NEVER done advertising on a porn site.

The pre-paid ad spots are dancing before my eyes right now. I am ready, willing, and able to sell premium targeted ad spots in all of CM's videos.

Liquor companies...she drinks Southern Comfort. Cigarette companies...she smokes Marlboro. Bra companies...she wears a 38 G size. And shoe companies? Just line up! She has more shoes than Imelda Marcos did.
Definitely a huge step forward for us, and its awesome that this has happened, but I don't know if this will open up as huge of a floodgate (I hope I'm wrong). I'm sure the majority of mainstream is still going to be against advertising in adult even if the movie blows up. The only reason they even considered this is because the movie is entirely based on our industry, but huge props to KB for getting them rolling on it.
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The article made a great point about porn consumers being regular everyday Americans. Advertisers need to remember that. Some advertisers will end up getting shit on by religious and family values groups but at the end of the day they can target their audience for a lot cheaper than mainstream advertising.

This recession and the growing acceptance of pornography in society may be the perfect mix to push mainstream advertising into adult.

I am shocked at what some of the mainstream sites charge for advertising. I chould charge a fraction of that and still be happy.
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Looks like half the ppl in here were shitting on Manwin in the other thread and here they are saying good job. Selective memory is a good thing!
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Definitely a huge step forward for us, and its awesome that this has happened, but I don't know if this will open up as huge of a floodgate (I hope I'm wrong). I'm sure the majority of mainstream is still going to be against advertising in adult even if the movie blows up. The only reason they even considered this is because the movie is entirely based on our industry, but huge props to KB for getting them rolling on it.
I could see a lot more movies doing this too.

Imagine if this had been possible when "Boogie Nights" came out? And even today, R rated comedies like "The Hangover" or Horror movies like "Saw" could reach a huge audience with trailers.

I don't see most mainstream companies doing it...but yeah. Cigs and alcohol SHOULD be with us. It's just too perfect.
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I did notice those a while back and immediately thought that a mainstream company advertising over porn is a pretty big deal. I don't see the floodgates opening immediately, but some smaller/edgier films and products may start to do this.

Definitely something to keep an eye on.
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The article made a great point about porn consumers being regular everyday Americans. Advertisers need to remember that. Some advertisers will end up getting shit on by religious and family values groups but at the end of the day they can target their audience for a lot cheaper than mainstream advertising.

This recession and the growing acceptance of pornography in society may be the perfect mix to push mainstream advertising into adult.

I am shocked at what some of the mainstream sites charge for advertising. I chould charge a fraction of that and still be happy.
You just recited my pitch verbatim!

Great job.
Thanks for the kind words btw-
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Definitely a huge step forward for us, and its awesome that this has happened, but I don't know if this will open up as huge of a floodgate (I hope I'm wrong). I'm sure the majority of mainstream is still going to be against advertising in adult even if the movie blows up. The only reason they even considered this is because the movie is entirely based on our industry, but huge props to KB for getting them rolling on it.
I'm guessing that the Linda Lovelace biopic "Inferno" based upon "Deep Throat" star, Linda Lovelace, and purportedly starring Lindsay Lohan, will be another good target.

I so want to see Lindsay go down on Harry Reems, even if it's simulated.



Get on this fer shizzle KBizzle...

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Looks like half the ppl in here were shitting on Manwin in the other thread and here they are saying good job. Selective memory is a good thing!
Manwin has nothing to do with what I'm saying. As I said earlier... all of us who had "more traffic than God" back in the 1990's all the way up until Pornhub, RedTube, Youporn, and the rest came around and sucked up all the traffic...we all tried hard to get mainstream advertising on porn sites.

It was just about 10 years ago that I sat down and corresponded with Phillip Morris company and some vodka company (can't remember exactly which one now) and tried my damndest to get them to do ad spots with me on al4a and ampland.

They were so anti-porn that they wouldn't even agree to a free trial with me linking them up for a week just to show them what we could do!

So yeah, if Kevin can take that huge ball of traffic that Mansef/Manwin has thus far been unable to monetize very well (how can they? paysites aren't gonna sell that great off of it for obvious reasons and cam/dating is played out) and sell prepaid ad spots to mainstream...then that is going to open up opportunity for ALL of us.

This has the potential to be something that can make some serious money for me and all the other people who have spent years and years building their sites and brands. Doesn't mean much for all those search engine "webmasters". But for real old school webmasters this could be very nice.

Even with my comparably small traffic I could easily see a very nice paycheck on prepaid ads if this leads to other companies following the lead of "Middlemen"
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Looks like half the ppl in here were shitting on Manwin in the other thread and here they are saying good job. Selective memory is a good thing!
I see it like this ... IF this does turn into a new revenue stream for a lot of sites it will end up being no different than the big program owners today that got their own starts through shadier means.

I still hate Manwin and what they've done to the industry as a whole but I am still very interested in seeing where this goes and being an Alexa 50 or whatever it is demonstrates to advertisers just how mainstream porn actually is.

Perhaps a negative can turn into a positive. This will start off benefiting Manwin but at the end of the day it could end up benefiting most of us.
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There is another outcome here as well people may be missing.

If mainstream companies start buying porn traffic, that will force most illegal sites to start going legit even more so than they already are. Mainstream companies may advertise on porn sites but not illegal sites and they will only buy ads over legal videos. This may be win/win for webmasters and paysite owners alike.
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I bet they are.

This could actually be the "revenue stream" that idiot gideongallery is always babbling about.

No mainstream companies have ever accepted advertising from porn. But I am just sitting here thinking of the giant multimillion dollar advertising budgets of movies, cigarette companies (who literally have been banned from advertising everywhere EXCEPT adult), liquor companies, etc. that have NEVER done advertising on a porn site.

The pre-paid ad spots are dancing before my eyes right now. I am ready, willing, and able to sell premium targeted ad spots in all of CM's videos.

Liquor companies...she drinks Southern Comfort. Cigarette companies...she smokes Marlboro. Bra companies...she wears a 38 G size. And shoe companies? Just line up! She has more shoes than Imelda Marcos did.

Mainstream's greed will defeat their psuedo-morals soon enough.
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Manwin has nothing to do with what I'm saying. As I said earlier... all of us who had "more traffic than God" back in the 1990's all the way up until Pornhub, RedTube, Youporn, and the rest came around and sucked up all the traffic...we all tried hard to get mainstream advertising on porn sites.

It was just about 10 years ago that I sat down and corresponded with Phillip Morris company and some vodka company (can't remember exactly which one now) and tried my damndest to get them to do ad spots with me on al4a and ampland.

They were so anti-porn that they wouldn't even agree to a free trial with me linking them up for a week just to show them what we could do!

So yeah, if Kevin can take that huge ball of traffic that Mansef/Manwin has thus far been unable to monetize very well (how can they? paysites aren't gonna sell that great off of it for obvious reasons and cam/dating is played out) and sell prepaid ad spots to mainstream...then that is going to open up opportunity for ALL of us.

This has the potential to be something that can make some serious money for me and all the other people who have spent years and years building their sites and brands. Doesn't mean much for all those search engine "webmasters". But for real old school webmasters this could be very nice.

Even with my comparably small traffic I could easily see a very nice paycheck on prepaid ads if this leads to other companies following the lead of "Middlemen"
Agreed!

Check out this thread:

Question about Middle Men and the Mob

I know and like KB (therefore I choose to currently separate the person from the role), although until I see proof that Manwin is truly on the up-and-up (which remains to be seen), I will be watching them closely, and be reminding people about their Mansef ties:



With that said, if the new biz model is to be free porn subsidized by mainstream ads, well I'm all for that. I already have plans devised along that route myself.

Personally, I wish the LA Times would invest some time into investigating the shady dealings of Mansef, and the new arrangement with Manwin. That could make a helluva story.

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Well KB, the writing is on the fucking wall. Go get us all some mainstream companies that want traffic. Use your uber J-magic.
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Manwin has nothing to do with what I'm saying. As I said earlier... all of us who had "more traffic than God" back in the 1990's all the way up until Pornhub, RedTube, Youporn, and the rest came around and sucked up all the traffic...we all tried hard to get mainstream advertising on porn sites.

It was just about 10 years ago that I sat down and corresponded with Phillip Morris company and some vodka company (can't remember exactly which one now) and tried my damndest to get them to do ad spots with me on al4a and ampland.

They were so anti-porn that they wouldn't even agree to a free trial with me linking them up for a week just to show them what we could do!

So yeah, if Kevin can take that huge ball of traffic that Mansef/Manwin has thus far been unable to monetize very well (how can they? paysites aren't gonna sell that great off of it for obvious reasons and cam/dating is played out) and sell prepaid ad spots to mainstream...then that is going to open up opportunity for ALL of us.

This has the potential to be something that can make some serious money for me and all the other people who have spent years and years building their sites and brands. Doesn't mean much for all those search engine "webmasters". But for real old school webmasters this could be very nice.

Even with my comparably small traffic I could easily see a very nice paycheck on prepaid ads if this leads to other companies following the lead of "Middlemen"
I understand what you are saying and if mainstream advertising does become more prevalent on porn sites that is a good thing but lets try to bring them in through legitimate sites not sites that steal your traffic and rip other people's member's areas. The company making the money right now is the antithesis of what you want to see as the site that is the poster child for this endeavor.
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Damn, the flip is on ... now KB has supporters - and posters riding his jock?!?!?!

As GFY turns!

lol

Enjoy the premiere and have a safe flight 2moro, KB - see u @ the Diplomat!!
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This could be huge news for the industry KB. Well done!

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If they are there to watch free porn, all they are going to do is watch the movie somewhere for free.

They are called...Freeloaders.
Do you honestly think that no one that goes to YouPorn and PornHub goes to the movies? If it was Pirate's Bay they were advertising on you may have a point, but most people who use porn tube sites use them the same way they use YouTube for mainstream content and that is an audience companies pay big money to advertise to.

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Mainstream's greed will defeat their psuedo-morals soon enough.
Hope so!

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You handle Brazzers adverting?


You just went from douche to criminal accomplice who needs to go on an industry black list.

Piss off to all of you giving him props. He now works for the biggest criminal enterprise in the entire industry who has fucked this industry to death, stole all of your content and is involved in money laundering.

Eat shit and die Kevin.
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the more traffic than god line cracked me up

what a piece of work, like the sextape that was supposed to star a HUGE A STAR CELEB!!! and noone knew the people who were in it, i dont even remember the names or what happened to the tape
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That is huge Kevin.

I (and many others) tried everything we could over the years to get ANY "mainstream" business to advertise with us. I worked my ass off about 10 years ago trying to get a liquor or cigarette company to advertise on al4a and ampland to no avail.

You just pulled off a game changer there buddy. If this works out well for "MiddleMen" it could be the start of a new revenue stream that has eluded all of us since the mid 1990's.

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Is that why michale is no longer associating himself with 2257safe.com ? because you are working for the same people that steal peoples content?
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Is that why michale is no longer associating himself with 2257safe.com ? because you are working for the same people that steal peoples content?
I didn't notice that.

A professional who had any morals at all would distance himself from scum like that.
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This has the potential to be something that can make some serious money for me and all the other people who have spent years and years building their sites and brands. Doesn't mean much for all those search engine "webmasters". But for real old school webmasters this could be very nice.

Even with my comparably small traffic I could easily see a very nice paycheck on prepaid ads if this leads to other companies following the lead of "Middlemen"

not gonna happen on the levels people are thinking about..

film industry is one thing..

publicly held companies and high profile companies will never associate themselves with porn companies...




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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I think mainstream still isn't ready
to work side by side with the adult industry. I'm sure the mainstream executives are
salivating at the potential but most are not willing to face the backlash from mainstream americans. They might be able to slip Extenze in but I doubt Pepsi will step up to the plate.

We all know that people frown on adult in public and then go home and do it behind closed doors and the mainstream crowd is full of hypocrites BUT, they are the buying public and have the loudest voice.

People boycott and ridicule companies for far less then working side by side with the adult industry. Communities are still actively finding ways to put strip clubs out of business instead of finding ways for them to benefit the community.

As sad as it is I just don't think America is ready yet.

That's my feeling and I hope when this thread is revisited in five years I was wrong
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Well you never know and if this did happen it would certianly bring in a whole new revenue stream for adult sites. Watch some of the mainstream "sexy ads" and they are the ones that get all the attention so just maybe the mainstream movie makers would capalitise on this fact. I can see problems with people who are dead against porn saying they will not watch a film being advertised on a porn site..but there is always hope
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It's an exciting time, we placed some ads for the Middle Men people as well. We're hoping this really catches on thru Hollywood.
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Lets see a movie made by a man who owned a processor which is one of the biggest in the porn industry and makes a movie about the porn industry and its advertised on a porn tube. That's really not a great stretch. Now pixar bought ads then that's huge or the new George Clooney movie. Its like my buddy Mikes says as long as a porn chick is playing a porn star, escort or stripper in a mainstream movies thats not crossover. Now if she played a nun or mother with litle kids then that's crossover. Your site looks good KB

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Why didn't they do something like this for that Kevin Smith movie, whoever and whoever make a porn flick? Remember that one? Came out only a couple years ago.....

Hey, we got Fellucia Blow on the cover of British GQ!

http://www.felluciablow.com/press.html

Time to brainstorm Robbie - let's get some advertising going for Fellucia!
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Lets see a movie made by a man who owned a processor which is one of the biggest in the porn industry and makes a movie about the porn industry and its advertised on a porn tube. That's really not a great stretch. Now pixar bought ads then that's huge or the new George Clooney movie. Its like my buddy Mikes says as long as a porn chick is playing a porn star, escort or stripper in a mainstream movies thats not crossover. Now if she played a nun or mother with litle kids then that's crossover. Your site looks good KB
That right there is what I would call a heavy dose of reality
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KB!

You know how long each and every one of us has been saying why doesn't mainstream advertise in adult?

As you know, we tried years ago with "Orgazmo"(an obvious fit) but to no avail...

Kudos!
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That right there is what I would call a heavy dose of reality
I don't think anybody had visions of Disney/Pixar buying ads for their movies on a porn site.

Forget the public outcry, just take into account that it wouldn't make good business sense.

Instead of trying to think of companies that WON'T buy advertising because it's a bad fit to begin with, you should be thinking of the ones that would fit.

Why would a movie starring a "nun" character ever even get MADE to begin with, much less advertise on a porn site! lol

No, the "heavy dose of reality" is that there ARE lots of movies made which would fit perfectly with advertising on porn sites. And some that don't.

For instance, I'm sure that "The Hangover" did targeted advertising in different places than "The Passion Of Christ" did.

Also...again I say that the cigarette industry is a multi-billion dollar industry with NO advertising outlet. The govt. has shut them down everywhere. They have been reduced to hiring girls to go out to nightclubs and hand out free sample packs of cigarettes and coupons for more cigs.

That is the big monster that I'd love to snag for advertising on porn sites.

And then there are the liquor companies.

And here in Vegas there are billboards for doctors in California to get you "legal" so you can buy pot. And how about plastic surgeons that do boob jobs?

The "heavy dose of reality" is that there are lots of advertising opportunities IF things worked out well for this first step.

No, I don't expect us all to make millions tomorrow because of this. But I do see it as a first small step. It could go absolutely nowhere. Or it could lead, down the road, to something bigger than we've ever had before.
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Why would a movie starring a "nun" character ever even get MADE to begin with, much less advertise on a porn site! lol
Lindsay Lohan plays a nun in Robert Rodriguez's upcoming flick "Machete". That's probably the only other movie coming out this year that would work for this type of marketing scheme.

So, you might be a little off there...
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Instead of trying to think of companies that WON'T buy advertising because it's a bad fit to begin with, you should be thinking of the ones that would fit.
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