New affiliates required to provide screenshots of earnings from other programs? - GoFuckYourself.com

p0rnus · 08-07-2010, 07:44 PM

I just signed up for a new program and they require a screen shot of my earnings and stats from at least 2 other programs. Is this normal? or have I just been with the same ole' programs for too long to know whats up?

Sly · 08-07-2010, 07:46 PM

A general referral should be fine, I see no need to require or share stats unless they are trying to remain semi-"exclusive".

Agent 488 · 08-07-2010, 07:46 PM

who is it? post a screenshot.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-07-2010, 07:54 PM

sounds like gossip kings.

doeser · 08-07-2010, 08:02 PM

cheap screenshoots with earnings for sale, hit me up

Chosen · 08-07-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by doeser

cheap screenshoots with earnings for sale, hit me up

fuzebox · 08-07-2010, 11:19 PM

that's awesome.

I am going to start charging monthly to be an affiliate of my program.

$5 submissions · 08-07-2010, 11:20 PM

Interesting development. I wonder if this will become industry standard.

http://www.highrevenue.com

PlugRush Sascha · 08-07-2010, 11:21 PM

You better fulfil their demands or you will regret it.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 08-08-2010, 12:10 AM

Tell them to fuck off.

nineCats · 08-08-2010, 12:18 AM

Lol, few day ago boyprofits want my stats ,earnings and traffic sources information when i tried to signup

Paul Markham · 08-08-2010, 01:37 AM

Maybe they're trying to weed out people who just sign up and never promote or will flood the Net with free content. Maybe they have enough affiliates and don't see more really effecting their bottom line.

It's their program and they are able to run it as they please.

A name would help so people know who you're talking about.

Jack Sparrow · 08-08-2010, 02:02 AM

Is it amakings?

I dont mind them getting screens from other programs i promote.

I assume its because those programs are still paying PPS, and they want to make sure the traffic is quality and rebilling.

closer · 08-08-2010, 02:05 AM

Of all affiliates who signup to a general program, only a rough 10% actively promote the program and only 20% of them are really converting. If the program offers hosted banners/galleries/flvs then it is a sane step to weed out the losers and keep your "free content" tracked as much as possible.

Usually just requesting the urls of sites where the affiliate will promote them would suffice, and include in the TOS that afiliates are not allowed to promote the program on urls not reported to the program.

Jakez · 08-08-2010, 02:15 AM

It's weird on one hand, but logical on the other.

p0rnus · 08-08-2010, 03:22 AM

Sorry everyone, it's Amakings. I'll send them what they need, just seems odd imo

Jack Sparrow · 08-08-2010, 03:32 AM

Yeah thought so. Well i can vouch for them.

I think we will see more programs asking for this and to be honest i like it. Weed out the bad sites is more costeffective for them, and if they want to stay up and have pps you cant blame them either.

anexsia · 08-08-2010, 06:19 AM

I dunno, I tried signing up for amakings and once I found out all that was required I said fuck it and chose another program to promote. A program that I could sign up for and start promoting 5 minutes later without having to do anything extra. I understand they're free to run their program how they want to but for me..I just get a little annoyed when I want to make some more money AND at the same time help the program by sending them more memberships...and then have to go through a bunch of crap just to sign up.

If I was running my own affiliate program, I'd want every one to sign up because every little bit helps and I wouldn't mind dealing with the bullshit affiliates IF it came to that.

How about for every new sponsor us affiliates signup for...we request screen shots of checks, epassporte receipts, etc that proves they actually pay out? That seems fair.

james_clickmemedia · 08-08-2010, 06:41 AM

hmm never heard of programs wanting that before. with higher & higher levels of aff. fraud these days can't say I'm surprised.

TheDoc · 08-08-2010, 06:46 AM

I've asked people for a references before, but stats... that's a new one. I would only give up that info if the site/product being promoted was simply too awesome to pass up. So in most cases, it wouldn't happen.

I have an account on lots of programs, most nats programs. I've been denied into programs because I put my webmaster blog into the site field and not a site with porn on it. Even after explaining the site was a resource site, most still denied me. I don't really try with people like that though, no reason to promote an idiot.

The aff fraud has been getting more out of control though... I expect more programs directly contacting and interacting with new affiliates in the coming years, references, stats, something to prove they are real or those programs wont be able to survive the onslaught of fraud. Still lots of ways programs can do this, without taking the stats direction at first.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-08-2010, 06:47 AM

marc womack is just looking out

V_RocKs · 08-08-2010, 10:06 AM

I use FF for screenshots and the whole things is done in 5 minutes and I go back to making money.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-08-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p0rnus

I just signed up for a new program and they require a screen shot of my earnings and stats from at least 2 other programs. Is this normal? or have I just been with the same ole' programs for too long to know whats up?

Screen shots or it never happened.

J/K, no, this is not normal. I would never ask anyone for that info.

erooup · 08-08-2010, 10:16 AM

Remember back when you had to maintain a ratio? History is repeating itself.

Sly · 08-08-2010, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erooup

Remember back when you had to maintain a ratio? History is repeating itself.

Outside of PPC?

TeenCat · 08-08-2010, 10:23 AM

gossip kings is one of them, i asked wtf, they told me they are doing it to stay alive and to have only quality affiliates, i told them fuck off

GetSCORECash · 08-08-2010, 10:35 AM

The Fraud is just to high. I bet more programs will close themselves off from new affiliates in the near future.

AHarper · 08-08-2010, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia

How about for every new sponsor us affiliates signup for...we request screen shots of checks, epassporte receipts, etc that proves they actually pay out? That seems fair.

Good idea!!

dynastoned · 08-08-2010, 10:44 AM

it sounds like amakings i told them to fuck off as well.

DVTimes · 08-08-2010, 10:51 AM

i spotted that on gossip kings.

i could not be bothered.

i see the logic but i also do not think its that clever.

to be honest i am not sure how honest it is to email people info of what business you do with others. can you imagine asking your bank to provide bank details of two of there clients????

Agent 488 · 08-08-2010, 10:53 AM

there are plenty of stat screenshots around here you can grab. not a big deal.

Shoplifter · 08-08-2010, 11:11 AM

Not a bad idea.

signupdamnit · 08-08-2010, 11:56 AM

Fuck that.

Sorry if you have doubts how about you call me up on the phone and talk to me for five minutes? It can't take any more time than this sort of thing would waste for the both of us. How many scammers will be able to bullshit their way through a five minute phone call?

Besides for all the affiliate fraud there is what about sponsor fraud -- particularly sponsors closing up and leaving affiliates high and dry without paying out their earnings and stealing rebills? It goes both ways.

GetSCORECash · 08-08-2010, 12:09 PM

The fraud comes from South east Asia and the old soviet bloc, where the webmasters can't or hardly speak English. That's where calling them doesn't work.

When those sponsors, the guys who have left, and stoped the $100 PPS, the fraud moved to revshare programs like us.

signupdamnit · 08-08-2010, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetSCORECash

The fraud comes from South east Asia and the old soviet bloc, where the webmasters can't or hardly speak English. That's where calling them doesn't work.

When those sponsors, the guys who have left, and stoped the $100 PPS, the fraud moved to revshare programs like us.

I'm an American webmaster and have been in the industry over a decade. I'm not sending screenshots of my stats with other sponsors unless you're sending me screenshots of your bank records. If there's a problem with fraud from certain countries then limit the measures to those nations. I'll gladly talk on the phone or ICQ however. No problem there.

SteveHardeman · 08-08-2010, 12:17 PM

Maybe they DON'T want you to agree to send a screenshot. Seems to me, a lot of legit webmasters would tell them to fuck off. A scammer would go make a screenshot.

Sort of like the gun law here. A legit guy will apply, wait his time, get a gun. A felon will just go buy one on the street. Law is totally worthless.

PR_Dave · 08-08-2010, 12:35 PM

We are going to be asking for DNA, fingerprints, and we'll run a credit check before letting you fill out our form.

_Richard_ · 08-08-2010, 12:38 PM

if they are asking for screen shots you are asking for something that costs em money

baddog · 08-08-2010, 12:38 PM

Reasonable.

HAPPYPEEKERS · 08-08-2010, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james_clickmemedia

hmm never heard of programs wanting that before. with higher & higher levels of aff. fraud these days can't say I'm surprised.

I hear ya! Fraud is really bad these days. Programs are trying to stop it any way they can.

Jack Sparrow · 08-08-2010, 03:18 PM

Its not so much about fraud guys.

Relentless · 08-08-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

We are going to be asking for DNA, fingerprints, and we'll run a credit check before letting you fill out our form.

Hair sample sent... ;)

Lace · 08-08-2010, 05:22 PM

What a joke. Fuck adult now-a-days. Idiots.

busta21 · 08-08-2010, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p0rnus

I just signed up for a new program and they require a screen shot of my earnings and stats from at least 2 other programs. Is this normal? or have I just been with the same ole' programs for too long to know whats up?

Sign up for our program...hit up [email protected] or IM me if you have 18-23 traffic/amateur

p0rnus · 08-08-2010, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_

if they are asking for screen shots you are asking for something that costs em money

Just signed up as a new affiliate, nothing more or less. This was on the screen that usually tells you to confirm your email.

TampaToker · 08-08-2010, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia

If I was running my own affiliate program, I'd want every one to sign up because every little bit helps and I wouldn't mind dealing with the bullshit affiliates IF it came to that.

If you ran a affiliate program you would be singing a different tune

p0rnus · 08-08-2010, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busta21

Sign up for our program...hit up [email protected] or IM me if you have 18-23 traffic/amateur

Thanks for the offer, but almost all of my traffic is straight teen/milf hardcore.

Barefootsies · 08-08-2010, 08:55 PM

Awesome development. Nice to see some BROgrams being proactive.

Dirty Dane · 08-08-2010, 09:21 PM

Asking for stats from competitors

well...

A fraudster would fraud the screenshot as well.

2MuchMark · 08-08-2010, 09:36 PM

Not surprised. Affiliate fraud happens.

08-07-2010, 07:44 PM	#1
p0rnus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Under the bed. Posts: 794	New affiliates required to provide screenshots of earnings from other programs? I just signed up for a new program and they require a screen shot of my earnings and stats from at least 2 other programs. Is this normal? or have I just been with the same ole' programs for too long to know whats up? __________________ ICQ: 330-164-445

08-07-2010, 07:46 PM	#2
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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Maybe they're trying to weed out people who just sign up and never promote or will flood the Net with free content. Maybe they have enough affiliates and don't see more really effecting their bottom line. It's their program and they are able to run it as they please. A name would help so people know who you're talking about. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

08-07-2010, 07:46 PM	#3
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	who is it? post a screenshot.

08-07-2010, 07:54 PM	#4
area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,164	sounds like gossip kings.

08-07-2010, 08:02 PM	#5
doeser Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: swiss alps Posts: 205	cheap screenshoots with earnings for sale, hit me up

08-07-2010, 11:19 PM	#7
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,013	that's awesome. I am going to start charging monthly to be an affiliate of my program.

08-08-2010, 12:10 AM	#10
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	Tell them to fuck off.

08-08-2010, 12:18 AM	#11
nineCats Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33	Lol, few day ago boyprofits want my stats ,earnings and traffic sources information when i tried to signup

08-08-2010, 02:02 AM	#13
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Is it amakings? I dont mind them getting screens from other programs i promote. I assume its because those programs are still paying PPS, and they want to make sure the traffic is quality and rebilling.

08-08-2010, 02:05 AM	#14
closer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: ICQ :: 34739932 :: Les Pays-Bas Posts: 1,707	Of all affiliates who signup to a general program, only a rough 10% actively promote the program and only 20% of them are really converting. If the program offers hosted banners/galleries/flvs then it is a sane step to weed out the losers and keep your "free content" tracked as much as possible. Usually just requesting the urls of sites where the affiliate will promote them would suffice, and include in the TOS that afiliates are not allowed to promote the program on urls not reported to the program. __________________ HOT DOMAIN NAMES FOR SALE: EUROPEAN: MACHO.FR ⌘ KINKY.ES ⌘ SEXTOONS.CO.UK ⌘ DOT COMS: DJSEX.COM ⌘ FAQBOX.COM ⌘ WEBCAMSTV.COM ⌘ SEXTWEET.COM ⌘ PORNVOUCHER.COM ⌘ GAYBF.COM \| GAYBFF.COM ⌘ GAYSEXDATE.COM \| GAYSEXDATING.COM

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08-08-2010, 03:22 AM	#16
p0rnus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Under the bed. Posts: 794	Sorry everyone, it's Amakings. I'll send them what they need, just seems odd imo __________________ ICQ: 330-164-445

08-08-2010, 03:32 AM	#17
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Yeah thought so. Well i can vouch for them. I think we will see more programs asking for this and to be honest i like it. Weed out the bad sites is more costeffective for them, and if they want to stay up and have pps you cant blame them either.

08-08-2010, 06:19 AM	#18
anexsia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,735	I dunno, I tried signing up for amakings and once I found out all that was required I said fuck it and chose another program to promote. A program that I could sign up for and start promoting 5 minutes later without having to do anything extra. I understand they're free to run their program how they want to but for me..I just get a little annoyed when I want to make some more money AND at the same time help the program by sending them more memberships...and then have to go through a bunch of crap just to sign up. If I was running my own affiliate program, I'd want every one to sign up because every little bit helps and I wouldn't mind dealing with the bullshit affiliates IF it came to that. How about for every new sponsor us affiliates signup for...we request screen shots of checks, epassporte receipts, etc that proves they actually pay out? That seems fair. Last edited by anexsia; 08-08-2010 at 06:21 AM..

08-08-2010, 06:41 AM	#19
james_clickmemedia Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas / London Posts: 2,204	hmm never heard of programs wanting that before. with higher & higher levels of aff. fraud these days can't say I'm surprised. __________________ $ CLICKMEMEDIA.COM $ CONVERTING ETHNIC TRAFFIC SINCE 1998 ~ $30+PPS BLACK-X.COM - NEW BLACK EX-GF SITE CLICKMEMEDIA.COM ~ ICQ - 8788771

08-08-2010, 06:46 AM	#20
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I've asked people for a references before, but stats... that's a new one. I would only give up that info if the site/product being promoted was simply too awesome to pass up. So in most cases, it wouldn't happen. I have an account on lots of programs, most nats programs. I've been denied into programs because I put my webmaster blog into the site field and not a site with porn on it. Even after explaining the site was a resource site, most still denied me. I don't really try with people like that though, no reason to promote an idiot. The aff fraud has been getting more out of control though... I expect more programs directly contacting and interacting with new affiliates in the coming years, references, stats, something to prove they are real or those programs wont be able to survive the onslaught of fraud. Still lots of ways programs can do this, without taking the stats direction at first. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation Last edited by TheDoc; 08-08-2010 at 06:50 AM..

08-08-2010, 06:47 AM	#21
area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,164	marc womack is just looking out

08-08-2010, 10:06 AM	#22
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	I use FF for screenshots and the whole things is done in 5 minutes and I go back to making money.

08-08-2010, 10:16 AM	#24
erooup Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 512	Remember back when you had to maintain a ratio? History is repeating itself.

08-08-2010, 10:23 AM	#26
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	gossip kings is one of them, i asked wtf, they told me they are doing it to stay alive and to have only quality affiliates, i told them fuck off __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

08-08-2010, 10:35 AM	#27
GetSCORECash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 5,527	The Fraud is just to high. I bet more programs will close themselves off from new affiliates in the near future. __________________ \| skype: getscorecash \| ICQ: 59-271-063 \| New Sites: \| SCORELAND2 \| Roku Channel SCORETV.TV \| 60PLUSMILFS \| \| Big Tit Hooker \| Tits And Tugs \| Big Boobs POV \| Karla James \| \| Naughty Foot Jobs \| Linsey's World \| Busty Arianna Sinn \| Get SCORE Cash \|

08-08-2010, 10:44 AM	#29
dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	it sounds like amakings i told them to fuck off as well.

08-08-2010, 10:51 AM	#30
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	i spotted that on gossip kings. i could not be bothered. i see the logic but i also do not think its that clever. to be honest i am not sure how honest it is to email people info of what business you do with others. can you imagine asking your bank to provide bank details of two of there clients???? __________________ The Affiliate Program

08-08-2010, 10:53 AM	#31
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	there are plenty of stat screenshots around here you can grab. not a big deal.

08-08-2010, 11:11 AM	#32
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,680	Not a bad idea.

08-08-2010, 11:56 AM	#33
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Fuck that. Sorry if you have doubts how about you call me up on the phone and talk to me for five minutes? It can't take any more time than this sort of thing would waste for the both of us. How many scammers will be able to bullshit their way through a five minute phone call? Besides for all the affiliate fraud there is what about sponsor fraud -- particularly sponsors closing up and leaving affiliates high and dry without paying out their earnings and stealing rebills? It goes both ways. Last edited by signupdamnit; 08-08-2010 at 12:05 PM..

08-08-2010, 12:09 PM	#34
GetSCORECash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 5,527	The fraud comes from South east Asia and the old soviet bloc, where the webmasters can't or hardly speak English. That's where calling them doesn't work. When those sponsors, the guys who have left, and stoped the $100 PPS, the fraud moved to revshare programs like us. __________________ \| skype: getscorecash \| ICQ: 59-271-063 \| New Sites: \| SCORELAND2 \| Roku Channel SCORETV.TV \| 60PLUSMILFS \| \| Big Tit Hooker \| Tits And Tugs \| Big Boobs POV \| Karla James \| \| Naughty Foot Jobs \| Linsey's World \| Busty Arianna Sinn \| Get SCORE Cash \|

08-08-2010, 12:17 PM	#36
SteveHardeman Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,728	Maybe they DON'T want you to agree to send a screenshot. Seems to me, a lot of legit webmasters would tell them to fuck off. A scammer would go make a screenshot. Sort of like the gun law here. A legit guy will apply, wait his time, get a gun. A felon will just go buy one on the street. Law is totally worthless. __________________ BrokeAmateurs And ErosPOV And GirlsGoingSolo And PureAshley Sign Up At AmateursConvert.com Questions? I-C-Q: 3Five1FiveFive3476

08-08-2010, 12:35 PM	#37
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08-08-2010, 12:38 PM	#38
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,986	if they are asking for screen shots you are asking for something that costs em money

08-08-2010, 12:38 PM	#39
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	Reasonable.

08-08-2010, 03:18 PM	#41
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Its not so much about fraud guys.