Obama goons hurt disabled man

[cambaby]

Your days are numbered liberals. This man was peacefully demonstrating against Obama and then was tackled, held down, crushed by private security guards(no doubt liberals) at the Alaskan State Fair.

[2012]

good for him, maybe he'll make a few sheckles

[Amputate Your Head]

Awesome. Maybe next time he won't resist. Or maybe next time he'll get the taser.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Awesome. Maybe next time he won't resist. Or maybe next time he'll get the taser.

Enjoy your GPS tracking in California, freedom killer.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Enjoy your GPS tracking in California, freedom killer.

[Vendzilla]

Too bad a riot didn't break out

[Agent 488]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_o...ouche_movement

[BlackCrayon]

liberal is the new n igger (for people like cambaby at least)

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_o...ouche_movement

What does that have to do with FREE SPEECH?

Those Westboro Church people dont get beat down like this.

Its about his rights.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

liberal is the new n igger (for people like cambaby at least)

No n igger is still n igger to me, it just doesnt mean black people.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Awesome. Maybe next time he won't resist. Or maybe next time he'll get the taser.

...or shot in the back while handcuffed.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

...or shot in the back while handcuffed.

Thats reserved for n iggers only dude.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Thats reserved for n iggers only dude.

[cambaby]

Kettles and Pots are both black.

Originally Posted by Ethersync

[baddog]

Rent-a-cops sucked when I was a kid and they still suck today.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Your days are numbered liberals. This man was peacefully demonstrating against Obama and then was tackled, held down, crushed by private security guards(no doubt liberals) at the Alaskan State Fair.

You are a retard. Seriously why are you here? I don't get pornographers that support conservative. You do realize they hate you want to put you out of business and preferably want you in prison. Sorry I don't support anyone that takes food off my table and wants to imprison me.

[theking]

If the guy wants to push the issue...I suspect that he can have the security guards criminally charged with multiple counts.

[dav3]

Looks like kidnapping to me.

[tony286]

Rightwing porn guys are like jewish nazis lol

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by GatorB

You are a retard. Seriously why are you here? I don't get pornographers that support conservative. You do realize they hate you want to put you out of business and preferably want you in prison. Sorry I don't support anyone that takes food off my table and wants to imprison me.

Conservatives dont hate you idiot, they love business, they may disagree on a moral level and want to regulate this business(which wouldnt be a bad idea financially) but the liberal politicians will fuck just the same, they dont give a fuck about you. At least with conservatives you know who your customer base is, you think liberals BUY porn?

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by cambaby

What does that have to do with FREE SPEECH?

Those Westboro Church people dont get beat down like this.

Its about his rights.

Since there was private security at this event, it looks like the event was held at a privately owned fairground.

There are no 1st Amendment free speech rights on private property.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Since there was private security at this event, it looks like the event was held at a privately owned fairground.

There are no 1st Amendment free speech rights on private property.

let's bold this...

There are no 1st Amendment free speech rights on private property.

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Since there was private security at this event, it looks like the event was held at a privately owned fairground.

There are no 1st Amendment free speech rights on private property.

And you'd be wrong...

"Mall Can't Ban Religious Conversations, Court Says"

http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/08/16/29625.htm

The recent case involved the mall imposing rules on the nature of conversations patrons could have ... and the appellate court struck it down - despite the mall being private property, patrons still have some free speech rights there.

As for the fairgrounds - was it a public accommodation (that is open to the general public much like a store, mall, etc) or was the event private? ... and if so, was the guy trespassing?

Regardless, either way, due to the president being there, it's likely the guy will be hard pressed to get any compensation - those with the "gold" make the "rules" - in the view of the power elite, much of the public, including that guy, is nothing more than a bunch of tiny gnats that can be squashed with no real consequences - protesters of high profile issues / events always need to keep that in mind and plan accordingly.

Ron

[theking]

Originally Posted by dav3

Looks like kidnapping to me.

I think that could/would be one of the criminal charges placed against the security guards. Security guards do not have any more legal powers than any U.S. citizen. Basically all they are legally allowed to do is observe and call the police...and at that point if they have cause they can make a citizens arrest...just as any other citizen can do.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally Posted by cambaby

At least with conservatives you know who your customer base is, you think liberals BUY porn?

The customer base for gay and underage porn is conservatives, but thats about it.

[Agent 488]

http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-crime-...,2668811.story

Police eventually arrested the man and took him away after they discovered that Hill was carrying a loaded weapon in violation of fair rules. The fair’s Dean Phipps says the fairgrounds are private property, and visitors are subject to those rules.

“We feel like we responded appropriately,” Phipps said. “Because we are the state fair, everyone thinks we're part of the State of Alaska. We're not -- we're a non-profit.”

Phipps says there are several other political groups at the fair, but they all have to follow rules -- including staying within an assigned booth, and not walking around in the open like Hill was.

“They aren't allowed to walk up and down the aisle or congregate in public places, particularly when it’s interfering with the fairgoers’ experience,” Phipps said.

Fair officials say they don't view the force that the guards used as excessive.

“They're required to restrain until they can sort it out, so I don't think it was excessive from that standpoint, particularly when they discovered he had a loaded weapon he brought onto the fairgrounds,” Phipps said.

After police arrested Hill Thursday, he was charged with assault, disorderly conduct and criminal mischief.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-crime-...,2668811.story

Police eventually arrested the man and took him away after they discovered that Hill was carrying a loaded weapon in violation of fair rules. The fair?s Dean Phipps says the fairgrounds are private property, and visitors are subject to those rules.

?We feel like we responded appropriately,? Phipps said. ?Because we are the state fair, everyone thinks we're part of the State of Alaska. We're not -- we're a non-profit.?

Phipps says there are several other political groups at the fair, but they all have to follow rules -- including staying within an assigned booth, and not walking around in the open like Hill was.

?They aren't allowed to walk up and down the aisle or congregate in public places, particularly when it?s interfering with the fairgoers? experience,? Phipps said.

Fair officials say they don't view the force that the guards used as excessive.

?They're required to restrain until they can sort it out, so I don't think it was excessive from that standpoint, particularly when they discovered he had a loaded weapon he brought onto the fairgrounds,? Phipps said.

After police arrested Hill Thursday, he was charged with assault, disorderly conduct and criminal mischief.

just another bagger without a clue. maybe he'll find one in jail.

[Agent 488]

http://www.crimedoctor.com/security_guards_2.htm

Control Holds & Restraints. Certain situations may arise where words alone does not reduce the aggression. Sometimes security guards and security officers will need to get involved physically. At this level, minimal force would involve the use of bare hands to guide, hold, and restrain. This does not include offensive moves such as punching, tackling, and choking. Pain compliance holds could apply here, but only after ordinary holds fail to control an aggressive suspect.

[Agent 488]

lucky for the guards that nut didn't start shooting and hit some families.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

http://www.crimedoctor.com/security_guards_2.htm

Control Holds & Restraints. Certain situations may arise where words alone does not reduce the aggression. Sometimes security guards and security officers will need to get involved physically. At this level, minimal force would involve the use of bare hands to guide, hold, and restrain. This does not include offensive moves such as punching, tackling, and choking. Pain compliance holds could apply here, but only after ordinary holds fail to control an aggressive suspect.

This man did nothing to require restraint. He was holding a sign and was verbal...that is all. The security guards were required to observe and call the police. This guy can...if he so chooses push for the criminal arrest of the security guards...unless Alaska gives security guards legal powers beyond what a normal citizen has...which I doubt. Even if a prosecutor would not place the charges (which is within their call)...assuming Alaska has setting grand juries (which they may not) he can go before the grand jury and demand that the prosecutor place charges against him...which the members of the grand jury may or may not choose to do.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

This man did nothing to require restraint. He was holding a sign and was verbal...that is all.

disagree. danger to himself and others.

[sicone]

I stubbed my toe today... is that Obamas fault too?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by sicone

I stubbed my toe today... is that Obamas fault too?

the preliminary stubbing groundwork was laid out & put in motion by Bush, but yes, since the actual stubbing event occurred under Obama's watch.... it's definitely his fault.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

disagree. danger to himself and others.

Please explain to me how holding a sign and spewing some political bullshit is a danger to himself or anyone else?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

Please explain to me how holding a sign and spewing some political bullshit is a danger to himself or anyone else?

he had a weapon.

[Bill8]

yet still you tea party people are afraid to fight for america.

why aren't you out in the streets with your guns?

pussies, the lot of you.

[Alky]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Awesome. Maybe next time he won't resist. Or maybe next time he'll get the taser.

resisting.... a security guard?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by Alky

resisting.... a security guard?

_indeed.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

he had a weapon.

The security guards were unaware that he was carrying when they assaulted him...and he may have had the legal right to carry...but in some states the right to carry does not mean that you can carry everywhere...thus he was apparently arrested for carrying at this event.

[Bill8]

all the private security guards I know are liberals.

everytime you see a rent-a-cop you know for sure he's a diehard socialist who wants to put the means of production into the hands of the proletariat.

i am pretty sure if private security guards find out another private security guard voted for mccain they are required by the security guard code to tase him.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

The security guards were unaware that he was carrying when they assaulted him.

disturbing the peace, violating the grounds policies, belligerence, he appeared intoxicated, failed to comply with security's directions, how many reasons do you need to arrest the menace?

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by theking

The security guards were unaware that he was carrying when they assaulted him.

so you are saying those rentacops were not told to prevent that kind of thing happening at the alaska state fair, that they were agents of obamanation?

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Bill8

yet still you tea party people are afraid to fight for america. why aren't you out in the streets with your guns? pussies, the lot of you.

Keep pushing us you fuck, unfortunately we are a civil lot, unlike you and your negro animal followers.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Keep pushing us you fuck, unfortunately we are a civil lot, unlike you and your negro animal followers.

there's that fierce bagger pride.... let it out, don't hold that shit in man.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

there's that fierce bagger pride.... let it out, don't hold that shit in man.

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Keep pushing us you fuck, unfortunately we are a civil lot, unlike you and your negro animal followers.

pull the trigger.

you wont. you're afraid.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

disturbing the peace, violating the grounds policies, belligerence, he appeared intoxicated, failed to comply with security's directions, how many reasons do you need to arrest the menace?

Security guards do not have the legal power to arrest...their legal power extends no further than yours or mine...unless as I stated...Alaska has given them extraordinary legal powers...which I doubt. In most...if not all states...security guards can do no more than observe and call the police...period...unless they are defending themselves or some one else from being battered.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

Security guards do not have the legal power to arrest...their legal power extends no further than yours or mine...unless as I stated...Alaska has given them extraordinary legal powers...which I doubt. In most...if not all states...security guards can do no more than ob serve and call the police...period...unless they are defending themselves or some one else from being battered.

and they didn't arrest him. the police did.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Bill8

pull the trigger. you wont. you're afraid.

Id tell you to ask several Iraqis I knew but unfortunately they are no longer here to tell their story.

Dont step into Michigan when the shit goes down, your kind isnt welcome here.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Bill8

so you are saying those rentacops were not told to prevent that kind of thing happening at the alaska state fair, that they were agents of obamanation?

Where did you come up with that pigshit. They do not have the legal power to prevent...their legal powers do not extend beyond yours or mine...unless Alaska has given extraordinary powers to private security guards.