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Old 09-01-2010, 12:21 PM   #1
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Protraffic.com: what the fuck has happened. Statement

I'm ceasing my silence in icq and message boards for the matter has taken too long and there are certain decisions that need to be made.

This post will be short. Until now I couldn't answer the negative and any other posts as well as icq messages for investigation reasons.

The short facts are:

1. My main programmer Andrey Voronin Vladimirovich, born 25.05.1983, has withdrawn $478,000.00 during the last 10 moths by using fictional accounts and the actual harm from his actions is even more profound.

2. He has opened his copy of bosstraffic.com using my ideas that I've shared with him only (Thumbnail spots). Moreover, he was posting on forums under the name of Bosstraffic by using the protraffic devserver IP. This is unthinkable! Everything was checked with the forum administration. I gave them my dev. server IP and it was the same as his IP.

3. When the lack of funds was identified, Andrey has erased all the sources of the main module, has started changing the code intentionally, the largest part of the code was obfuscated and the DB was encoded (we have already decoded a large part of it). Moreover, he was shutting down different sections and blackmailed us threatening to shut down traffic statistics.

3.1 A whole month was spent on restoring server passwords (which he changed in advance), before meeting him in Bruxelles he also hacked by gmail account.

3.2. A whole month he was telling me the story of his mother being ill in hospital in Bruxelles, however she was in Saint Petersburg the whole time. (i checked it out with the police)

3.3. He was deceiving new coders for a whole month. He didn't tell them how the main module is launched, re-compiled it with additional code and was nowhere to be found.

3.4. He deleted some sections and didn't return anything. After 1.5 years of work I've received only 3 lines from him with the IP and the password to the servers where a part of the content is erased and the other is encoded.

3.5. When we've met in Bruxelles he was telling me that it's not a shortage of money, but a simple bug.

4. He was answering with one or two weak breaks.

5. In fact, this person made EVERYTHING he could to make it impossible for us to continue working. Not only he has stolen the money, opened up a copy of the project and failed the current one, but he also obfuscated everything that was left, son of a bitch. I have the graphs of his movements, and if we find out that it was the work of our competitors, I'll get to you too, bastards. I'll find everyone who was working with this crook if there are any.

6. I've asked certain people to help me «work» with this bastard, compiled all the info on him to make sure about the whole situation. Even some experienced people were surprised by his attitude. As things progressed it became even more unbelievable. As soon as people started talking with him he came to Riga and was begging for mercy, told us that he will return the sources. The same day he went away, was fucking with us for a whole month (he promised to return everything in a month's time), and after that vanished with his entire family. In fact, no one has even touched him, he was simply warned. I didn't want to mess around with him, suspecting a catch in his actions and fearing legal procedures for more aggressive measures towards him. It would be very wrong, but I really wished to beat him up really bad. He was given time to correct everything he has done, but as a result he simply vanished.



Well, since finding this son of a bitch takes too much time, I've decided to rewrite the main module, which I REALLY didn't want to do. I've invested everything I had into the functioning of protraffic and rewriting everything that was achieved with so much work is a catastrophe, just like everything that happened here.

I'm blaming myself for being unable to find such a crook anywhere around me. If you're reading this post you bastard, know this ? I'm going to find you anywhere it takes me to and you will regret that you've been born, you son of a bitch. I won't stop looking for you, you cunt. You can laugh all you can right now, but I won't stop working with people to find you, there will be more people looking for you, we're not over with this, and you will pay for everything you've done!


Some information on this fucker and his family

the main bitch: Voronin Andrey Vladimirovich25.05.1983 Passport: РФ 40 05 843614
his father (somehow I think he has his share in this too): Voronin Vladmir Alexandrovich 13.01.1952 Passowrd: РФ 40 05 106548
his mother (that wasn't ill and didn't leave anywhere): Voronina Nellya Arkadyevna 09.03.1954
his brother: Voronin Alexandr Vladimirovich 13.03.1985 Passport: РФ 40 05 659582

Their addresses

Saint-Petersburg, Budapest str, 87, block 2, ap. 178
Saint-Petersburg, Kupchinskaia str, 29, block 1, ap. 197

If someone lives nearby or can help with some information on this bastard, message me in icq. If someone can help find him or any of his family members ? let me know. Any information is welcome.

He calls himself kvasovandrey / Kvasov Andrey ? if someone knows anything about him, please, let me know. If the information will be really helpful there may be a reward for it.

skype: kvasovandrey
icq: 424706619

his photo



BTW, there's an interesting detail, the bastard has grown really long hair, it's hard to recognize him. He was getting ready for this since April, I think.







And here's a recording of his conversation with the main programmer who has taken over the project (very experienced, has his own company with dozens of specialists working on serious software)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ug4t7 (in russian)


WARNING! If you have any information regarding the owners/workers of bosstraffic.com ? I beg you to share this information (if there are any persons like that), because up till now it was Andrey who was answering to all the messages sent there, his style of conversation can't be confused with.

I'll answer his post about me: I've trusted this person and he did a very professional job in building up this trust. I was paying him on a regular basis, and basically his post is answered by the facts mentioned above.

Moreover, Andrey has convinced me to move the hosting to one of his friends about a year ago, and since it was a bit cheaper and I trusted him we have done as his he suggested. After all the details have seen light I had a lot of problems with taking away the project from this hosting, the master was blackmailing me and asking for money, and bosstrafic got hosted with the same provider, so the host is also under our surveillance. He turned off the servers explaining it by due payments, however he forgot that I was paying him in advance as he asked me. It was a big problem moving the project away from him, since no one knew how to launch the main module besides Andrey, and the bastard didn't tell how it works, deleted the config files, made everything he could to spoil the work. Debugging and disassembling did not help.



I want to answer some questions in advance:

1. We don't give a fuck about your problems with the programmer, when you'll return our money? - right now I'll start rewriting the core, the remaining funds will be used for reimbursements and so will the system's income.

2. You're so stupid for not noticing such a problem, how could you? - True, but the person in question is a really good specialist and I was trusting him. I just couldn't believe that such low down bastards are walking the planet and I'm working with one of them. Still, when we were first discussing our work together, I have noticed a negative feedback on his freelance.ru account, and our initial dialog wasn't taking us anywhere. However, when we started dealing with each other later, I suspect he was already planning a fraud on me back then, since bosstraffic takes a lot of time to put up, and I think I was paying for it, since he was hiring people in Prague and used the money for it. He has withdrawn the money in small settlements, and it was impossible to track down the overall balance in the previous version. With a turnover of 8 million USD during the last year, he was withdrawing the money slowly, especially during peak months. And we have finally tracked him down.

3. Why the fuck do we need you after all this time even if that's all true? - The situation is what I have told you, and I don't deny my responsibility. The money will be reimbursed through the income of the recovered project, even if it will take 5 years and it will be impossible to get back to the initial turnover volume. I won't leave it as it is. But I know that there are loyal webmasters who understand the situation.


PS. I have worked with traffic for 7 years, and I didn't fraud anyone, even hadn't such things in mind. A lot of people know me, I was never hiding from anyone. I used my own money to develop protraffic and this son of a bitch just came over a fully functioning project.

I would never turn down a project with 8 million USD in yearly turnover, why would I?

It's really hard for me to imagine how could he have done that with me and with my project.

It wouldn't be a problem to reimburse 500к if this bastard would have made the project as he should, but he intentionally sabotaged it. And with a non-working project and without the possibility to launch that fucking module it will be really hard to give back the money. I've stopped the payouts simply because it has no sense with a project that doesn't work at all.


so right now the plan is:

1. re-write the core of protraffic (2-3 months)
2. Re-launch the site
3. Ill make automatic unhold of the holded money
4. We will enable instant withdraw option
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:36 PM   #2
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Wow, I hope everything works out for you. Its a good thing you have his family info. You know he will be in contact with them eventually . Hire an Investigator.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:39 PM   #3
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Somehow i think your story is true, we as Smart Scripts will back you in case you need help building Protraffic again.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:41 PM   #4
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if someone stole that much money from me i'd put a hit out on his ass.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:46 PM   #6
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Russian crook that fled with his family...... 50% chance you'll can find him in Pattaya, Thailand. Start with Jomtien beach.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:48 PM   #7
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1 rogue employee, a programmer no less, shouldn't have been in position to cause all that harm. I mean the very first thing: "1. My main programmer Andrey Voronin Vladimirovich, born 25.05.1983, has withdrawn $478,000.00 during the last 10 moths by using fictional accounts and the actual harm from his actions is even more profound." - you gave him access to your bank account? Or did he hack into it somehow?

Nonetheless, hopefully you've learned lessons from this and stuff finds a way of working out. Good luck.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:50 PM   #8
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:02 PM   #9
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Not to add to your problems BUT I was hired by him to promote Bosstraffic as you can see I had an old gfy nic even changed to help this. Well long story short I Never got 1 cent of 2k I am owed? and I worked my butt off for him. Actually my bosstraffic email still works. I would like to talk to you about this on icq please, Ill hit you up.
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sorry to hear that,looks as he is a smart guy but an asshole
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Not to add to your problems BUT I was hired by him to promote Bosstraffic as you can see I had an old gfy nic even changed to help this. Well long story short I Never got 1 cent of 2k I am owed? and I worked my butt off for him. Actually my bosstraffic email still works. I would like to talk to you about this on icq please, Ill hit you up.
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:26 PM   #13
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Somehow i think your story is true, we as Smart Scripts will back you in case you need help building Protraffic again.
thanks buddy, you'll be one of the first ones to get ur money unholded. This is 100% true and very sad.

but ill fight back.


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Not to add to your problems BUT I was hired by him to promote Bosstraffic as you can see I had an old gfy nic even changed to help this. Well long story short I Never got 1 cent of 2k I am owed? and I worked my butt off for him. Actually my bosstraffic email still works. I would like to talk to you about this on icq please, Ill hit you up.
my icq is 178O78583, hit me up asap.
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For $100k US I will have his whole family killed.....

$200k if you want them tortured first...



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Old 09-01-2010, 02:10 PM   #17
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shit happens
good luck in sorting it out and getting back on track
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$200k if you want them tortured first...



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Well,i heard for similar stories on russian companies before where API accounts(epassporte,paypal accounts can be controlled over API)are abused,but not sure can you recover from this even with good will.
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Not to add to your problems BUT I was hired by him to promote Bosstraffic as you can see I had an old gfy nic even changed to help this. Well long story short I Never got 1 cent of 2k I am owed? and I worked my butt off for him. Actually my bosstraffic email still works. I would like to talk to you about this on icq please, Ill hit you up.
I hope they pay you your 2k atleast. Since they new this shit was happening they should have made an announcement eairlier, not that i blame them but you are innocent and should get paid mate.
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$200k if you want them tortured first...



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Yes, join Protraffic
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I agree, that would be the right thing for them to do.
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OH, man, I am sorry to read this!

I actually had almost the exact same thing happen to me about a year ago; around $65K but just as damaging for me as I am a little fish in a big sea. This event prompted my move to adult and I have tightened up my security like all Hell.

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sorry to hear he stole so much money from you. The photo where he is posing looks like taken in the Prague.
he is in prague probably, he has permanent stay permit there, i found out his address, but nothing there. My guys will keep watching it. He wont get away with it...

but originally he is from russia, fucking freak.
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If the reward is enough, i'll take a gap year off uni and go and try and hunt him down for you .



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Close one and open another.

http://protraffic.com/public.images/mastercard.gif

http://bosstraffic.com/i/ps-mastercard.png

Identical images - 1.9 KB (1,891 bytes)

Everythignthere tells me its a copy of protraffic.com scam


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If the reward is enough, i'll take a gap year off uni and go and try and hunt him down for you .



No seriously.
You are most likely dealing with a guy from the Russian Business Network(RBN) and you ain't qualified. We'd find you in the Volga. Pointz for trying though!

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OH, man, I am sorry to read this!

I actually had almost the exact same thing happen to me about a year ago; around $65K but just as damaging for me as I am a little fish in a big sea. This event prompted my move to adult and I have tightened up my security like all Hell.

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sounds like the making for a movie.. good luck in getting your $ back
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sorry to hear that. as godsmack said, ill do the torture part for free to ... as this fucker technically owes me huge amount of money too (through you). :D
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typical Russian business experience, glad you got it resolved.
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:59 PM   #41
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mother fucking matt damon looking motherfucker shit
No, he just looks like a faggot.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:00 PM   #42
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give it up, the brand is ruined
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:14 PM   #43
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There is big issue with old statistics after the upgrade. We are working on the issue, the payments will be made as soon as it gets fixed and we find out the problem. The delay is also taking place cause our head programmer is out of town due to health reasons of his family. I am making sure this get resolved as quick as possible.

The payouts will be made maximum by the end of this month. We hoped to resolve the issue much faster but that family problem created lot of additional problems.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:16 PM   #44
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Thanks for sharing your story and good luck.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:33 PM   #45
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how the fuck did he manage to fuck you out of 500k over 10 months without you noticing?
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Old 09-01-2010, 08:14 PM   #46
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Might hit up Sam Jain.
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Old 09-01-2010, 08:26 PM   #47
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he might be on facebook..

plus with a face like that..fuck..i wouldnt trust his ass..
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Old 09-01-2010, 08:35 PM   #48
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holy crap, that's some serious drama, hope you catch him!
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Old 09-01-2010, 08:45 PM   #49
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how the fuck did he manage to fuck you out of 500k over 10 months without you noticing?
I don't get it ............

The story is quite unbelievable IMO, sounds like a whitewash CYA attempt to me.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:46 PM   #50
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