ePassporte Official Statment - Page 12 - GoFuckYourself.com

seeandsee · 09-03-2010, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas

Just as K0nrad said in the other thread below:

"The money is in someone's personal offshore account right now.

Lets take a look at the trail of events leading up to this.
- Porn industry takes a dive, sponsors disappear, less money loaded on epass. They can no longer be used for gambling too, so their income must have taken a hit on this. Every day a new program closes up shop, and that is one less that will load up money every month to pay affiliates. Over the past few months, I have noticed a very strong migration to clients using paypal and wires and away from epass.
- 1 or 2 days before this happens, many people's limits are lowered to $1k withdrawl
- Their visa accounts are "abruptly suspended" with no warning and with no explaination given. Conveniently at the start of the month just before a long weekend, when the most money is on the epass system as programs are loading up their accounts to pay affiliates. As it is a long weekend, no one can get in touch with visa or anyone to confirm anything.

Yeah...I can definately see this all ending well."

WE will see, but you are probably right...

cam_girls · 09-03-2010, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet

your a fat stupid aussie socialpath. back to the topic at hand. lots of you guys are fucked, damn.

QUIET!

You want us stop discussing the topic you started?

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quiet · 09-03-2010, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

QUIET!

You want us stop discussing the topic you started?

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dont care either way jim carrey.

cubismo · 09-03-2010, 02:54 AM

oh fuck me .. thats a great start to the day... i hope this gets sorted out quickly ..

coding_bug · 09-03-2010, 02:58 AM

im good as dead! :/

LongBG · 09-03-2010, 02:58 AM

Well, this whole thing is just sad.

I know many people who actually depend on ePass for their day to day living.

Hope something good does come out of this.

Nathan · 09-03-2010, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Loki

Nathan, that's a pretty broad (and bold) statement to make, you can't possibly know what every big company uses when it comes to banks, I do know for a solid fact that in these current times, when a big company finds a new bank to handle them they keep their mouth shut about it, because of what some companies have done over the years.

I know plenty of big companies for example who did NOT use WMC, and that WMC had their assets frozen because of....... online gambling and one of their clients they were processing for, and that client was.....

The same things were said during the bank shutdowns, when banks had their accounts frozen and processing ability pulled due to..... Online Gambling and behind the scenes when some companies were given heads up days before shit went down one name was mentioned over and over, and that name was......

I'm not one to pass on rumors it's not my style but when you hear the same one over and over again while everything around you starts to collapse in my mind it becomes LESS of a rumor and more of a gospel.

months back there was a (failed) boycott here when your traffic leg skinned GFY, tons and tons of people got themselves banned because they did not agree with GFY taking money from a company that was single handedly ruining our biz, (I say failed cause most came back, and the skin stayed as most knew it would)

I don't do drama, no time for it, but this has effected me and my family personally, and this also directly effects my ability to pay my bills and take care of my family so I spoke up, and I pointed out the things I see (in this case a pattern, that everywhere your company is goes down for the same reasons) and like I said before If I'm wrong I'll admit it, without prob.

However, and this is not me being a dick or a weasel, but the ONLY way to know this was NOT caused by you is for Epass to SAY it wasn't due to your account/s and your biz practices, if they don't say it then there is no way for me or anyone else to know it really wasn't caused by you.

But if in fact it was a HUGE glitch by Visa, or some odd Hack thing that compromised all the cards and Epass says it was _________________________ and Nothing else then you got me 'dead to rights' and I will as I always am, be a man of my word.

-Loki-

Loki, I do not honestly care a lot about rumors, its a very big thing in adult and lots of people love talking and lots of people love throwing in names without know ANYTHING about this industry in detail.

Let's just wait and see what happends with WMC, with ePassporte and all those other things where my name has been dragged through the mud...

Its VERY telling in my opinion already that all those people have said how I will be arrested in the US the second I show up there, how there is FBI at the Miami show to take me down and whatnot.. its all crap and bullshit.. Nothing happened, I was in the US 3 separate times in the past 4 weeks. SQUAT is happening to me, and why should it, I did absolutely nothing wrong.

This should show you directly how much truth is in all these comments about Mansef, Manwin, Brazzers and myself...

Anyway, enough said, we have plenty of money in ePassporte too since obviously lots of people to pay affiliate wise and such through there each month and it is the 3rd of September sadly.. horrible timing for everyone involved. I will be talking to my guys about payouts that usually go through ePassporte too, since I am sure plenty of them got stuck because of this although we our self hold very little in the virtual visa itself.

Odin · 09-03-2010, 02:59 AM

Got 1k in there. Won't speculate too much at the moment. Hope for everyones sake they pull through, and aren't blowing smoke or trying anything shady.

Either way, epass will take a big hit after this. But given a reasonable explanation and everyone being able to access their funds asap, they will bounce back to a large degree. Who knows, who knows...

Nick_Merlot · 09-03-2010, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tinafaye

What if you are a service provider?

Hosting company, designer, copy writer, grunt worker, and the list goes on, you can't get personal checks from your clients!!!!!!!!!!!!

= fucked

Except for paypal, but if they get any clue you are taking payments for anything adult related then you lose your paypal money too.

halfpint · 09-03-2010, 03:02 AM

damm I was just thinking a couple of weeks ago I posted a thread about my bank messing about with a check which I recieve reguarly from an ad network. All of a sudden they wont let the check go through and have to send it back to the USA. It has still not been sorted out and yes the bank still has my money and this is Barclays Bank im talking about. I had them for years with no trouble up until recently. It seems which ever way you try to conduct biz the banks have the power to cut off your money as they so wish... One thing after another ..

V_RocKs · 09-03-2010, 03:02 AM

pooch? screwed... for now anyway.

pornstar2fag · 09-03-2010, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Loki, I do not honestly care a lot about rumors, its a very big thing in adult and lots of people love talking and lots of people love throwing in names without know ANYTHING about this industry in detail.

Let's just wait and see what happends with WMC, with ePassporte and all those other things where my name has been dragged through the mud...

Its VERY telling in my opinion already that all those people have said how I will be arrested in the US the second I show up there, how there is FBI at the Miami show to take me down and whatnot.. its all crap and bullshit.. Nothing happened, I was in the US 3 separate times in the past 4 weeks. SQUAT is happening to me, and why should it, I did absolutely nothing wrong.

This should show you directly how much truth is in all these comments about Mansef, Manwin, Brazzers and myself...

Anyway, enough said, we have plenty of money in ePassporte too since obviously lots of people to pay affiliate wise and such through there each month and it is the 3rd of September sadly.. horrible timing for everyone involved. I will be talking to my guys about payouts that usually go through ePassporte too, since I am sure plenty of them got stuck because of this although we our self hold very little in the virtual visa itself.

You do care a GREAT DEAL about rumors. You are Mr. Damage Control.. otherwise you wouldn't be in here 24/7 trying to put lipstick on it. So if it bullshit then it is bullshit. What the fuck do you care? Who gives a fuck? Obviously you do. I know a ton of programs where shit is posted about on here... you don't see them jumping in each and every time because they don't have to... facts always play out man.... You're just more proof that "rumors" may have teeth.

ilbb · 09-03-2010, 03:05 AM

I wonder why they didn't autoswitch all users to wallet today. I have to manually switch.

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vjo

Good Q for Michael.

They should be able to load to their Wallets, pay as usual, affils will accept thru the Wallet. Basicly just the card is kaput.

Might as well void out the Virtual Visa setting in Wallet settings. I know I will be damned sure it is set to Wallet.

How bout the guy who didnt log on to Epass or see this thread. I had mine set to Virtual Visa till I seen this thread. I mean there are dollars funneling into the great abyss as we speak for guys set to Virtual Visa.

I believe there has been no email on this from Epassporte. I may be wrong. I never got any tho.

Transfers to the virtual card are rejected.
I have asked Tech to set all accounts to Wallet instead just waiting for them to do it.

Nathan · 09-03-2010, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ilbb

I wonder why they didn't autoswitch all users to wallet today. I have to manually switch.

They mentioned that any deposits to virtual visa right now would be denied and rejected. So if you have it still set to virtual visa and someone tries to deposit money into the account the deposit is rejected and sent back.

Yahook · 09-03-2010, 03:07 AM

I think it's the end of Epassporte. Now all webmasters will start using all possible ways to get their money from Epassporte and it will kill Epassporte. Even if this problem will be solved nobody will hold their money there anymore.

Epassporte was a very good agregator of money. Now this agregator will be closed and it will be a cause of a very big crisis in an entire adult business.

I hope I'm not right.

V_RocKs · 09-03-2010, 03:09 AM

I predict that you are wrong...

bufferover · 09-03-2010, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

Transfers to the virtual card are rejected.
I have asked Tech to set all accounts to Wallet instead just waiting for them to do it.

Any news?
Chances this one to get back to normal?
Until when we can expect this problem to get solved?

livegirlsonbed · 09-03-2010, 03:13 AM

i hope this issue will not make all the epassporte users to loose the amounts from our Visa virtual accounts.

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hairyman

Is it possible to do a wire from wallet to a non-US bank account?

Yes.....
Request the wire transfer form on the Withdraw money page

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Michael, can you do us a favor and when you find out any updates maybe start up a new thread about it? Many people are interested in what will come of this, and it will save everyone having to look through the 50 page thread this will be by the end of the day hoping for something new.

I will...

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by paymeback

My bank/debit card statement doesn't have my visa card number on it anywhere which is required for ID. How do i get around this then? Dont really want to wait 7-10 working day and then get it denied..

Upload statement and send utility bill with your name and address to me [email protected] and include your UserID and reason for this.

TheDA · 09-03-2010, 03:16 AM

This is huge news. Glad I don't have a lot of going through it anymore.

Changing what I did have going through it to my wallet turned out to be good timely advice.

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mcfester

And what about wire transfers? Do you wire to Thai or UK bank accounts?

If you have UK address only to UK because Thailand is restricted country.
If Thai address OK to both countries.

TheDA · 09-03-2010, 03:18 AM

There's some idiots and some very foolish people in here too.

camchoice · 09-03-2010, 03:18 AM

Michael, we wired money to epassporte yesterday, what happens to those transfers ?

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Lets just hope they aren't paying him his salary via epass

They are-

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PersianKitty

No problems here. I keep all my funds in my virtual wallet and transfer to a checking account.

Seems I recall a message from Epassporte back in Feb of 2009 that stated

"ePassporte also highly recommends that you keep the majority of your funds on your ePassporte Wallet instead of your Visa Virtual Account. The ePassporte Wallet enables you to keep funds separate from your Visa Virtual Account and Visa Electron Card until you transfer the funds from the ePassporte Wallet to the Visa Virtual Account for use. By keeping your funds on the ePassporte Wallet, you ensure that your funds are protected in the event your Visa Virtual Account or Visa Electron Card is ever lost, stolen, or compromised through a stolen database, a merchant, or an ATM.

To initiate the transfer to your ePassporte Wallet, go to "My Account," select the "Transfer Money" option from the navigation bar, and click the "Wallet To/From Visa Virtual" button."

Btw Michael... you're doing a bang-up job putting out fires. Never seen someone so "on" an issue.

When wallet settings were introduced all new accounts had Wallet as the default option we did not want to change the default option on older accounts since this might upset account holders so we sent out this message.

Thanks

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneless

Michael, you said you were confident that things will turn out on the ok side of things.

Do you have any timeframe in your mind which it should take to resolve this?

Sorry no not at this time as soon as I have we will let everyone know.

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahook

Hello Michael, please tell me what can happen with money that are currently on visa cards? Is there way to get them later or there is a chance that all these money will be blocked forever?

You will get them when this is solved.

Yahook · 09-03-2010, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

You will get them when this is solved.

I understand that. But I asked you if there is a chance that this issue will never been solved. What do you think? What will happen then?

Of cource I wish everything good to Epassporte. I don't know how we can all live without it. It will be very difficult.

V_RocKs · 09-03-2010, 03:23 AM

Isn't switching to wallet a moot point until this is resolved since the sponsors and users all cannot give you money?

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:23 AM

I will be gone for a couple of hours my better half is in the hospital with a mild (luckily) case of Dengue fever and I were told about this ePass issue 5am this morning and have been working since then first in the hospital and for a few hours at home.

Please use email as the first choice to contact me I or someone else will respond to it within 24 hours and I will be back with updates as soon as I know something new.

cam_girls · 09-03-2010, 03:24 AM

BANKS BOYCOTTING ADULT

Saw several posts about boycotting industries this morning - a sign!

Even I wrote just this morning - "now I own Camgirls.com the adult industry is boycotting me."

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camchoice

Michael , we just transfered money to epass to pay our studios, models and affiliates. Is that money still coming through and is it going to be added to our wallet ? Our setting is to receive in wallet.

It will be added to your Wallet.

Michael O · 09-03-2010, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Isn't switching to wallet a moot point until this is resolved since the sponsors and users all cannot give you money?

You can still withdraw the money using the other options.

TeenCat · 09-03-2010, 03:27 AM

good bye michael, you have been a good guy and a great support! have luck in what you do in future!

FighterSpirit · 09-03-2010, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

good bye michael, you have been a good guy and a great support! have luck in what you do in future!

agree with that man

cam_girls · 09-03-2010, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat

good bye michael, you have been a good guy and a great support! have luck in what you do in future!

Some say a glitch, some say a sign of what's coming..

Naughty-Pages · 09-03-2010, 03:30 AM

All that I can think of is "Holy Ibill Batman!"

I hope this is not the case.. Luckily I only have a couple hundred in the account as I was short on cash due to an $8,000+ friggin emergency room hospital bill (no insurance)... and due to that I had emptied the account.

But I have several thousand dollars that people are supposed to pay me this coming week via epass..

Epass probably accounts for at least 60% of my revenue...

it would really suck if epass went down the shitter..

just a punk · 09-03-2010, 03:31 AM

Hmm... What's about this then: http://www.fptci.com/index.php?optio...ocal&Itemid=26 ?

pornstar2fag · 09-03-2010, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_girls

BANKS BOYCOTTING ADULT

Saw several posts about boycotting industries this morning - a sign!

Even I wrote just this morning - "now I own Camgirls.com the adult industry is boycotting me."

Keep checking the financial biz wires.

tabasco · 09-03-2010, 03:34 AM

Maybe if all write a nice email to Mr Obama he will bail us out

Jack Sparrow · 09-03-2010, 03:34 AM

So WHO has the money, ep or visa?
Because if its visa, shouldnt we be on our ways to their hq?

I really want to believe you michael, but im having a hard time ignoring all facts.

If ep goes down, will visa be able to substitute our losses?

pornstar2fag · 09-03-2010, 03:40 AM

who has access to a Pacer account?
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/tex...v00304/193651/

Vjo · 09-03-2010, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

Transfers to the virtual card are rejected.
I have asked Tech to set all accounts to Wallet instead just waiting for them to do it.

Good moves Michael.

That should stop anymore from becoming frozen funds.

ContentPimp · 09-03-2010, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahook

I think it's the end of Epassporte. Now all webmasters will start using all possible ways to get their money from Epassporte and it will kill Epassporte. Even if this problem will be solved nobody will hold their money there anymore.

Epassporte was a very good agregator of money. Now this agregator will be closed and it will be a cause of a very big crisis in an entire adult business.

I hope I'm not right.

I hope you are not right either man

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Zarathustra · 09-03-2010, 03:43 AM

Sorry to hear guys. I understand a lot you situations some people are in right now

Just think positive. You can think negative but It wont change a situation that already is. So why not think positive? Everything has a gestation period that heals itself, like when you get a cut on your finger, you cant force it to heal, it just needs time to heal, but eventually it will.....just like whatever situation you are in now

paymeback · 09-03-2010, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

Upload statement and send utility bill with your name and address to me [email protected] and include your UserID and reason for this.

Thanks, ive uploaded the documents and emailed you the rest.

DidierE · 09-03-2010, 03:45 AM

Damn i still got like $700 in there

09-03-2010, 02:58 AM	#556
LongBG Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sesame Street Posts: 1,101	Well, this whole thing is just sad. I know many people who actually depend on ePass for their day to day living. Hope something good does come out of this. __________________ Contact me: [email protected]

09-03-2010, 03:02 AM	#560
halfpint GFY's Halfpint Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 15,223	damm I was just thinking a couple of weeks ago I posted a thread about my bank messing about with a check which I recieve reguarly from an ad network. All of a sudden they wont let the check go through and have to send it back to the USA. It has still not been sorted out and yes the bank still has my money and this is Barclays Bank im talking about. I had them for years with no trouble up until recently. It seems which ever way you try to conduct biz the banks have the power to cut off your money as they so wish... One thing after another .. __________________ Get FREE website listings on Cryptocoinshops.net Last edited by halfpint; 09-03-2010 at 03:04 AM..

09-03-2010, 03:13 AM	#569
livegirlsonbed Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 487	i hope this issue will not make all the epassporte users to loose the amounts from our Visa virtual accounts. __________________ Best retention Cams affiliate program!

09-03-2010, 03:18 AM	#576
camchoice Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,267	Michael, we wired money to epassporte yesterday, what happens to those transfers ? __________________ Free Porn Webcams Last edited by camchoice; 09-03-2010 at 03:20 AM..

09-03-2010, 03:23 AM	#583
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	I will be gone for a couple of hours my better half is in the hospital with a mild (luckily) case of Dengue fever and I were told about this ePass issue 5am this morning and have been working since then first in the hospital and for a few hours at home. Please use email as the first choice to contact me I or someone else will respond to it within 24 hours and I will be back with updates as soon as I know something new. __________________ Truth Teller

09-03-2010, 02:54 AM	#554
cubismo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 226	oh fuck me .. thats a great start to the day... i hope this gets sorted out quickly ..

09-03-2010, 02:58 AM	#555
coding_bug Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Somewhere only we know Posts: 100	im good as dead! :/

09-03-2010, 02:59 AM	#558
Odin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: au Posts: 2,545	Got 1k in there. Won't speculate too much at the moment. Hope for everyones sake they pull through, and aren't blowing smoke or trying anything shady. Either way, epass will take a big hit after this. But given a reasonable explanation and everyone being able to access their funds asap, they will bounce back to a large degree. Who knows, who knows...

09-03-2010, 03:02 AM	#561
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	pooch? screwed... for now anyway.

09-03-2010, 03:05 AM	#563
ilbb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: EU - Czech republic Posts: 3,025	I wonder why they didn't autoswitch all users to wallet today. I have to manually switch.

09-03-2010, 03:07 AM	#566
Yahook Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Global traveler Posts: 840	I think it's the end of Epassporte. Now all webmasters will start using all possible ways to get their money from Epassporte and it will kill Epassporte. Even if this problem will be solved nobody will hold their money there anymore. Epassporte was a very good agregator of money. Now this agregator will be closed and it will be a cause of a very big crisis in an entire adult business. I hope I'm not right.

09-03-2010, 03:09 AM	#567
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	I predict that you are wrong...

09-03-2010, 03:16 AM	#573
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	This is huge news. Glad I don't have a lot of going through it anymore. Changing what I did have going through it to my wallet turned out to be good timely advice.

09-03-2010, 03:18 AM	#575
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	There's some idiots and some very foolish people in here too.

09-03-2010, 03:23 AM	#582
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Isn't switching to wallet a moot point until this is resolved since the sponsors and users all cannot give you money?

09-03-2010, 03:24 AM	#584
cam_girls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,968	BANKS BOYCOTTING ADULT Saw several posts about boycotting industries this morning - a sign! Even I wrote just this morning - "now I own Camgirls.com the adult industry is boycotting me."

09-03-2010, 03:27 AM	#587
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	good bye michael, you have been a good guy and a great support! have luck in what you do in future! __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

09-03-2010, 03:30 AM	#590
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09-03-2010, 03:31 AM	#591
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,381	Hmm... What's about this then: http://www.fptci.com/index.php?optio...ocal&Itemid=26 ? __________________ Obey the Cowgod

09-03-2010, 03:34 AM	#593
tabasco Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 2,624	Maybe if all write a nice email to Mr Obama he will bail us out __________________ "There is no other way to see a thing except to look at it" - fatfoo

09-03-2010, 03:34 AM	#594
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	So WHO has the money, ep or visa? Because if its visa, shouldnt we be on our ways to their hq? I really want to believe you michael, but im having a hard time ignoring all facts. If ep goes down, will visa be able to substitute our losses?

09-03-2010, 03:40 AM	#595
pornstar2fag So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 544	who has access to a Pacer account? http://dockets.justia.com/docket/tex...v00304/193651/

09-03-2010, 03:43 AM	#598
Zarathustra Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,094	Sorry to hear guys. I understand a lot you situations some people are in right now Just think positive. You can think negative but It wont change a situation that already is. So why not think positive? Everything has a gestation period that heals itself, like when you get a cut on your finger, you cant force it to heal, it just needs time to heal, but eventually it will.....just like whatever situation you are in now Last edited by Zarathustra; 09-03-2010 at 03:45 AM..

09-03-2010, 03:45 AM	#600
DidierE Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 380	Damn i still got like $700 in there