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Old 09-03-2010, 02:26 PM   #1
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Epass alternatives

What are the alternatives to Epass and why sponsors dont use them??

fethard.biz?
alertpay.com?
payoneeer.com?

but... do they issue ATM cards?
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:28 PM   #2
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payoneer issue cards, lots of mainstream sites use them aswell.
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:29 PM   #3
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I'd say payoneer or alertpay are probably the best alternatives
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:30 PM   #4
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i'm looking for anything that works internationally, lets you load from your CC/Debit and issues ATM cards
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Payooner is currently only solution since many programs using it already,and you dont even need to pay for account immeditaly,you pay it after you receive card.
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:36 PM   #6
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payoneeer.com knows about the adult transactions and is OKAY with it right ?
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:38 PM   #7
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Alert Pay is pretty decent also.
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:39 PM   #8
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Payooner is currently only solution since many programs using it already,and you dont even need to pay for account immeditaly,you pay it after you receive card.

Which programs use it??
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:41 PM   #9
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There are many around but ePassporte was one of the first allowing adult, that's why all sponsors started using them..

But guess yesterday is the inflexion point when a new processor has the chance to take over all clients.

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Old 09-03-2010, 02:46 PM   #10
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Yup. It's a shame that so many sponsors set their horses 100% on ePass and now everyone starts searching for alternatives. It's always like that - something really bad has to happen before things start to change.

Of course loads of people were asking on public boards "what if ePass hits the fan one day, why no alternatives?" all the time. But no one seemed to bother, as ePass was working fine. The alternatives are there, and they have been there for quite a long time. RevUpCard, Payoneer, AlertPay, Wirecard... But of course, if no sponsor offers 'em, no affiliates use 'em.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:05 PM   #11
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anyone know which will work internationally and has ATM/debit cards?
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payoneer dont send cards, the programs do, is that correct>?
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:17 PM   #13
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Here´s some that use Payonner:


Anilos Cash (50% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Payoneer, Wire Transfer)

AWE ($40 PPS or 30% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Payoneer, Wire Transfer)

Hustler Cash ($35 PPS or 60% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Payoneer, Wire Transfer)

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Old 09-03-2010, 04:21 PM   #14
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:22 PM   #15
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Here's some sponsors that pay by Paypal:


Ashley Madison ($25 PPS or 70% Revshare - Check, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Cash 4 Webmasters (50% Revshare - Epassporte, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Cash Burners [B](50% Revshare - Epassporte, MoneyBooker, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Dating Gold ($2-$5 per mail or $75-$150 PPS or 35%-50% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Duke Dollars ($30 PPS or 60% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Kinky Dollars ($30 PPS or 50%-60% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Paypal, Wire Transfer)


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Plug Rush
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:52 PM   #16
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payoneeer.com knows about the adult transactions and is OKAY with it right ?
yup, if AWE issues payoneer cards, payoneer must be aware..
Which reminds me to login there and order my card finally always been delaying it, considered epass sufficient
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Yup. It's a shame that so many sponsors set their horses 100% on ePass and now everyone starts searching for alternatives. It's always like that - something really bad has to happen before things start to change.

Of course loads of people were asking on public boards "what if ePass hits the fan one day, why no alternatives?" all the time. But no one seemed to bother, as ePass was working fine. The alternatives are there, and they have been there for quite a long time. RevUpCard, Payoneer, AlertPay, Wirecard... But of course, if no sponsor offers 'em, no affiliates use 'em.
I think you have it backwards. Sponsors offered epassporte because that's what the affiliates demanded. I have never had an affiliate ask me for RevUp or Payoneer, today is the first I've ever heard of AlertPay. Most sponsors complained about offering epassporte, it was primarily to keep non-Americans happy.
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I think you have it backwards. Sponsors offered epassporte because that's what the affiliates demanded. I have never had an affiliate ask me for RevUp or Payoneer, today is the first I've ever heard of AlertPay. Most sponsors complained about offering epassporte, it was primarily to keep non-Americans happy.
No, I think the whole Epassporte mania started with Flashcash and their instant payments which were connected to epassporte. They even offered to order the card through epass for you with your FC username on it. Other sponsors didnt want to stay behind so everyone started offering epass payments.

The first time I have heard of Epass was with FlashCash and their instant payments which were extremely attractive for me.. loved the idea of getting paid instantly!
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Alert Pay allows you to directly transfer your funds via local banking (instant) to your bank account in over 100 countries.

With 4.8 million users in 190 countries, they are pretty solid, and have no issues at all with adult.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:57 PM   #21
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What are the alternatives to Epass and why sponsors dont use them??

fethard.biz?
alertpay.com?
payoneeer.com?

but... do they issue ATM cards?
fehtard isn't alternative!!!
They stole poeples money 3 years ago, their site "temprorary" doesn't work for over a month or so.
Support of course claims that "issues will be resolved soon", but they say that for 3 years repetedly.
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fethard.biz is Russian Federation scammers ... do not deal with them.
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Alertpay is good and payoneer. But one thing I don't like about payoneer is asap I received my card from them that was issued by awe payoneer started to spam the shit out of me that I must order a new card even though mine is set to expire in 2012. Their emails come twice a week and are ultra annoying.
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What are the alternatives to Epass and why sponsors dont use them??

fethard.biz?
alertpay.com?
payoneeer.com?

but... do they issue ATM cards?
There are none.
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AlertPay and Payoneer have some sexy looking web 2.0 sites. As for the Payneer emails, can't you just filter them into a folder?
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I see on payoneer site you cant order card unless you are in USA
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I see on payoneer site you cant order card unless you are in USA
well then payoneer is useless... half of us including me are not based in the USA...
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Ashley Madison ($25 PPS or 70% Revshare - Check, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Cash 4 Webmasters (50% Revshare - Epassporte, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Cash Burners [B](50% Revshare - Epassporte, MoneyBooker, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Dating Gold ($2-$5 per mail or $75-$150 PPS or 35%-50% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Duke Dollars ($30 PPS or 60% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Paypal, Wire Transfer)

Kinky Dollars ($30 PPS or 50%-60% Revshare - Check, Epassporte, Paypal, Wire Transfer)


and this ones too:


Plug Rush
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Etology
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Too many problems with Fethard 4 years ago...
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Alert Pay allows you to directly transfer your funds via local banking (instant) to your bank account in over 100 countries.

With 4.8 million users in 190 countries, they are pretty solid, and have no issues at all with adult.
Looks good, could be an alternative.
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http://ikobo.com - a cam site use to pay studio owners with this card too
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i got my payoneer card paied from awe, sent to me by payoneer
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Please contact our technical support.

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Most sponsors complained about offering epassporte, it was primarily to keep non-Americans happy.
Just one more popular alternative for non-American (mostly ex-USSR) affiliates: http://www.wmtransfer.com/ (aka http://www.webmoney.ru/)

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Was fine late last night your time as I created a new account. I believe because of the Epass problems every man and his dog will be enrolling into similar new alternative payment options as payoneer maybe the server was too busy from new accounts ;)
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Affiliate programs can send it to you anywhere in the World, I got mine from AWE.
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Was fine late last night your time as I created a new account. I believe because of the Epass problems every man and his dog will be enrolling into similar new alternative payment options as payoneer maybe the server was too busy from new accounts ;)
yea thats probably it, ill try it later
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sign up links @ payoneer are all gone now, wtf
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you guys don't understand
you can get payoner, no matter where you are located

but you must know one thing,
only sponsor can create account on payoneer for you
and
you can get money only from one sponsor to one card

for example if you use AFF, apply for payoneer from AFF webmaster area
then you will get card, and then you will get payments to card only from AFF

daily limits are pretty high... read faq

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some of my sponsors offer paypal...are they cool with adult?
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only sponsor can create account on payoneer for you
andyou can get money only from one sponsor to one card

for example if you use AFF, apply for payoneer from AFF webmaster area
then you will get card, and then you will get payments to card only from AFF

daily limits are pretty high... read faq

hehhhhhh damn
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you guys don't understand
you can get payoner, no matter where you are located

but you must know one thing,
only sponsor can create account on payoneer for you
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you can get money only from one sponsor to one card

for example if you use AFF, apply for payoneer from AFF webmaster area
then you will get card, and then you will get payments to card only from AFF

daily limits are pretty high... read faq
what the fuck, so if you have 20 sponsors you have 20 cards hypothetically speaking? Ok payoneer is useless then. Bullshit.
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what the fuck, so if you have 20 sponsors you have 20 cards hypothetically speaking? Ok payoneer is useless then. Bullshit.
Yes,but you can request to merge accounts to one account to avoid having 20 cards/accounts/etc.
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Yes,but you can request to merge accounts to one account to avoid having 20 cards/accounts/etc.
ah ok thnx for the info.
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Try to get it at Trafficholder .That is how i requested card there.
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Alertpay is ok, payoneer is better. Haven't used the third.
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In my opinion Payoneer is the only alternative. I hope that all of my sponsor will have that option soon. Otherway I dont see any other CARD payment possibilities
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