Am I the only Company that never used...

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

ePassporte?

We've been paying by check and wires since 1995, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I like Chris and the gang, but it's good to say. We are in the Safe Zone.

Sorry for all of you holding off to see what happens. I'm sure they will fix it and you will all get paid. If not, I can imagine the Lawsuit they will file against Visa or the Bank.

[AdPatron]

I've only used it to receive.

[LongBG]

You post / thread does absolutely nothing for anyone.

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

I've only used it to receive.

Whether you're pitching or catching, still playing ball.

[LongBG]

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

I've only used it to receive.

Your sexual preference is not being questioned here dude, but whatever floats your boat..


Hahaha, sorry I just had to say it. If not me, someone else would have.

[XPays]

we only used it when it was forced upon us by paycom back in the day as a payment option for customers. never for webmaster payouts despite probably over 1000 requests. the question is did the long time use result in more biz for those programs that did add them? tough math there. we are not happy about this stuff and wish our peers a speedy recovery.

[Storm_Tracker]

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

ePassporte?

We've been paying by check and wires since 1995, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I like Chris and the gang, but it's good to say. We are in the Safe Zone.

Sorry for all of you holding off to see what happens. I'm sure they will fix it and you will all get paid. If not, I can imagine the Lawsuit they will file against Visa or the Bank.

Any your point is?

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

Originally Posted by Storm_Tracker

Any your point is?

My point is positive things happen to positive thinkers. "Stay Positive"

[james_clickmemedia]

We only use it to pay our affiliates that request it. I understand why foreign affiliates want to use the service. We still choose check, ACH or wire as our payment option when dealing with other companies.

[Agent 488]

1999 was over a decade ago.

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

Originally Posted by LongBG

Your sexual preference is not being questioned here dude, but whatever floats your boat..


Hahaha, sorry I just had to say it. If not me, someone else would have.

You just beat everyone to it.

[PenisFace]

I don't like epass at all. I don't like the way it's setup or the way you have to do stuff. I dunno, I can't really say much more than that.

[fuzebox]

Checks are so archaic. I can see how if you are like a normal dude living in the USA with your normal bank account and getting mail delivered to your house you like em, but if you have any kind of alternative arrangements checks are a huge pain in the ass

Checks and fax machines.

[MaDalton]

people wanted to pay that way - so i accepted it. but i always withdrew right away. so my loss is $12 now

[NaughtyRob]

Same here, my loss is a whopping $14.

Originally Posted by MaDalton

people wanted to pay that way - so i accepted it. but i always withdrew right away. so my loss is $12 now

[bizarrejan]

never used epass to pay affiliates, but its everyones personal choice if they wanted to use epass I hope that things get resolved favourabley especially for people who have money in epass, whether it be $1 or $millions

[signupdamnit]

I've always been annoyed at the few sponsors who did not offer check payments. Hopefully we'll see less of that from now on.

[Kelli58]

I agree and I don't like wire transfers either. To much money!!

I'm not going to pay $25 or even $35 or $40 for you to wire me my money and then the bank who charges me another $10 for incoming wire fees.

I say give me a good old fashion check any day. It's free and although it may take a day or two longer to get my money .... but in the end, I have my money for sure and well, it didn't cost me anything to get it.

[Pipecrew]

now think about all the webmasters that prefer that payment method, and then all the big webmasters that will only use it. It definitely isnt 1996 anymore.

Now take a deep breath and realize how many millions you left on the table.

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

people wanted to pay that way - so i accepted it. but i always withdrew right away. so my loss is $12 now

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Same here, my loss is a whopping $14.

$5.34

i win!

[Vick!]

you sure you are not losing webmasters because you dont offer epass as payment method?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Lots of people assuming the money in Epass is totally lost. If you have change in your wallet and just want to give it away Ill take it ;)

[nickutis]

well I see this as disadvantage for your company

Your competitors are able to pay me via epassporte and that's one of reasons why I'm with them, and not you

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Lots of people assuming the money in Epass is totally lost. If you have change in your wallet and just want to give it away Ill take it ;)

when your money is on the roulette table, and the dealer just waved the hand, but the ball is still bouncing around the wheel....is it lost? or not? or....? thats where we're all at right now.

some just have higher stakes

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

now think about all the webmasters that prefer that payment method, and then all the big webmasters that will only use it. It definitely isnt 1996 anymore.

Now take a deep breath and realize how many millions you left on the table.

There was a 2 year period where I living solely off epassporte and unable to promote anyone who didn't pay out via it.

Being a webmaster gives me the flexibility to travel a lot and live in other countries, which makes a physical check being mailed to a physical address inconvenient to deal with if not impossible.

[MobiusMike]

I think you've got to be ready to wait a long time to get whatever they owe you out.

If you understand that VISA just doesn't shut down programs without advanced warning for no reason one of the following seems likely to have happened:

- St. Kitts got notified by VISA of an impending closure for some term violation or at the behest of the FTC or another regulatory agency and didn't tell e-Passporte it was coming

- St. Kitts told e-Passporte and they've been running around behind the scenes trying to fix it without telling anyone and couldn't get it done

- VISA looked at the program and decided something so bad was going on that they had to close it down immediately to avoid a larger problem

I have a hard time believing that funds will be released if there's an investigation ongoing or if there's a huge problem with the program. It may take weeks or months to un-wind all of it.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

There was a 2 year period where I living solely off epassporte and unable to promote anyone who didn't pay out via it.

Being a webmaster gives me the flexibility to travel a lot and live in other countries, which makes a physical check being mailed to a physical address inconvenient to deal with if not impossible.

wouldn't a wire work too? i haven't been to my bank in my home country for over a year but still money comes in and i take out over here from the ATM

[Sly]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

wouldn't a wire work too? i haven't been to my bank in my home country for over a year but still money comes in and i take out over here from the ATM

Not really comparable. Wires require a high minimum and also a high fee. Whereas epass typically require a low or moderate minimum and very low fees, which several sponsors will cover for you.

Let's say you are promoting 10 different sponsors and make $200 a month with each. Using epass you'll get your full $2000. Using wires you probably won't get anything.

[HomerSimpson]

Dave your post sounds like who needs electricity, I'm fine with washing my clothes in river and cooking on open fire...

Checks are so 20 century, wires are expensive. Epass was/is really good solution and I hope it will be fixed soon!

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Sly

Not really comparable. Wires require a high minimum and also a high fee. Whereas epass typically require a low or moderate minimum and very low fees, which several sponsors will cover for you.

Let's say you are promoting 10 different sponsors and make $200 a month with each. Using epass you'll get your full $2000. Using wires you probably won't get anything.

right - didnt think of that.

[Chosen]

You're not the only company that never used ePass, but it's not a something to be proud of.

[Grapesoda]

don't have an account and never have used epass. hopefully they will get everything back on track soon and get the money pipe flowing again

[messiah1]

Checks = snail mail but it's better than nothing.

[qwe]

Originally Posted by nickutis

well I see this as disadvantage for your company

Your competitors are able to pay me via epassporte and that's one of reasons why I'm with them, and not you

+1, you probably lost alot more in a long run by not offering epass, so that's basically tells me your company doesn't care about what your webmasters want... it shows that companies who started offering epass do listen to their webmasters

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

Originally Posted by nickutis

well I see this as disadvantage for your company

Your competitors are able to pay me via epassporte and that's one of reasons why I'm with them, and not you

We pay by wire, ACH and Check, haven't had a problem with that payment method for over a decade.
If someone requested it, I would make it happen, if they need me to drop of the check to their house, I would.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

right - didnt think of that.

I'm a lot more successful pushing traffic to 50-60 sponsors at a time, which results in a lot of $1-200 payouts...

Also accessing the home bank account from other countries is possible, but for a long term solution the fees eat you alive. My story is a pretty unique one, but in an industry like this you're going to meet a lot of people who live outside the norm.