XBIZ NEWS: Manwin Takes Over EuroRevenue

[xbizdon]

XBIZ NEWS: Manwin Takes Over EuroRevenue

LUXEMBOURG ? The Manwin Group of Companies revealed Monday that it has acquired EuroRevenue, which in late July announced it would cease operations.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/125105

[Bryan G]

this will be an interesting thread LOL!

[Wizzo]

I saw that coming.... Interesting to say the least...

[TeenCat]

oh i have already forgot about eurorevenue

[ThumbLord]

yep, interesting

[CaptainHowdy]

A win for all mankind... Congrats!

[opflix]

money talks, bullshit walks

[Klen]

It would be hilarious if they would buy epassporte.

[kristin]

I wonder if Manwin will honor the existing WM accounts and continue to pay the revshare they had earned.

[DamianJ]

Hehe. Nice. Firesale prices!

[babymaker]

Why dont the fuckers take over Epass, which is what i tho it said at first out of the corner of my eye lol........................................ :D

[Barefootsies]

Sweet justice.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by kristin

I wonder if Manwin will honor the existing WM accounts and continue to pay the revshare they had earned.

Great question.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by kristin

I wonder if Manwin will honor the existing WM accounts and continue to pay the revshare they had earned.

That would be interesting indeed.

[Why]

i wonder how John Thompson and EuroRevenues other content partners feel about this change... course i guess if ManWin brings processing to the table ER is back in biz and they cant complain much.

[MaDalton]

eurowin!

[chronig]

Originally Posted by kristin

I wonder if Manwin will honor the existing WM accounts and continue to pay the revshare they had earned.

Well you can stop wondering and I'll answer this for you right now...

~~|>>NO<<|~~

[LeRoy]

Damn thats big news for the week!

[Brujah]

Next up: Manwin takes over PerfectGonzo, WEGCash, and AdultProfit?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Damn thats big news for the week!

Indeed it is

[alexxx]

interesting...

[GTS Mark]

Congrats to Manwin!

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Next up: Manwin takes over PerfectGonzo, WEGCash, and AdultProfit?

You forgot QuickBuck and SOBV.

[nolongerexists]

fuck yeah, i was surprised to get ticket update saying i will be paid lol.
:-)

[epitome]

Originally Posted by kristin

I wonder if Manwin will honor the existing WM accounts and continue to pay the revshare they had earned.

It looks like it. From the press release:

"All payouts to affiliates will continue, even beyond the month of August, and will be handled by previous owners during the transition period," a Manwin rep told XBIZ. "Manwin is scheduled to take over all operations at the end of September."

[Imortyl Pussycat]

congrats to both parties and all affiliates involved

[Randy West]

If you promote anything Manwin involved, you are contributing to your own losses.

[Jarmusch]

Man FTW.

[RandyD]

Droped the links weeks ago -won't be promoting those cunts again.

[GetSCORECash]

It should of been by 50 bumps by now! GFY must be running slow.

[eurorevenue]

To put a stop to all speculations, I would like to make the following statement:

1.) YES, all webmasters are currently being paid out pending payouts with the exception of ePassporte accounts which are currently being switched over to other payout methods. Those accounts will be paid out next week. All other payouts to webmasters and producers have already been approved for processing.

2.) All rebill earnings of webmasters who have promoted the revshare programs will be honored and paid out on all recurring earnings in the future. Your EuroRevenue account is still active and tracking your earnings!

3.) I am deeply sorry and I apologize to all of you who had to wait for your payouts. Waiting for money sucks, even more does not knowing if you get paid at all. I know you all have bills to pay and obligations to meet. For what it's worth and for those who want to believe it, I would have paid earlier, if it was possible.

4.) Manwin is the best conceivable partner for EuroRevenue. They have it both, the knowledge and the power to provide EuroRevenue with the stability, reliability and forward thinking needed to survive and succeed in this ever changing marketplace.

5.) EuroRevenue is still the best destination for your traffic. Don’t let the hick-ups of the past diminish your earning potential of the future.

I would like to personally thank all of those who have been part of this exciting journey over the past 12 years. You know who you are.

Joe Holm

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by eurorevenue

To put a stop to all speculations, I would like to make the following statement:

1.) YES, all webmasters are currently being paid out pending payouts with the exception of ePassporte accounts which are currently being switched over to other payout methods. Those accounts will be paid out next week. All other payouts to webmasters and producers have already been approved for processing.

2.) All rebill earnings of webmasters who have promoted the revshare programs will be honored and paid out on all recurring earnings in the future. Your EuroRevenue account is still active and tracking your earnings!

3.) I am deeply sorry and I apologize to all of you who had to wait for your payouts. Waiting for money sucks, even more does not knowing if you get paid at all. I know you all have bills to pay and obligations to meet. For what it's worth and for those who want to believe it, I would have paid earlier, if it was possible.

4.) Manwin is the best conceivable partner for EuroRevenue. They have it both, the knowledge and the power to provide EuroRevenue with the stability, reliability and forward thinking needed to survive and succeed in this ever changing marketplace.

5.) EuroRevenue is still the best destination for your traffic. Don?t let the hick-ups of the past diminish your earning potential of the future.

I would like to personally thank all of those who have been part of this exciting journey over the past 12 years. You know who you are.

Joe Holm

please fix the login issues. requesting a new password doesn't seem to help. You cannot log on with it, even after typing it in by hand.

[kristin]

Originally Posted by eurorevenue

To put a stop to all speculations, I would like to make the following statement:

1.) YES, all webmasters are currently being paid out pending payouts with the exception of ePassporte accounts which are currently being switched over to other payout methods. Those accounts will be paid out next week. All other payouts to webmasters and producers have already been approved for processing.

2.) All rebill earnings of webmasters who have promoted the revshare programs will be honored and paid out on all recurring earnings in the future. Your EuroRevenue account is still active and tracking your earnings!

3.) I am deeply sorry and I apologize to all of you who had to wait for your payouts. Waiting for money sucks, even more does not knowing if you get paid at all. I know you all have bills to pay and obligations to meet. For what it's worth and for those who want to believe it, I would have paid earlier, if it was possible.

4.) Manwin is the best conceivable partner for EuroRevenue. They have it both, the knowledge and the power to provide EuroRevenue with the stability, reliability and forward thinking needed to survive and succeed in this ever changing marketplace.

5.) EuroRevenue is still the best destination for your traffic. Don’t let the hick-ups of the past diminish your earning potential of the future.

I would like to personally thank all of those who have been part of this exciting journey over the past 12 years. You know who you are.

Joe Holm

Number three, do you mean you are sorry for the people awaiting ePass payments from ER or all ER payments?

As for number five, are you concerned that with announcing the program was closing and not being bought out (at the time) that you may have lost WMs? I know many pulled their links thinking the program was done and now that it's alive again, they will have to add back all their links.

[munki]

Still wondering if Manwin has any plans on stopping the rampant piracy...

[Nathan]

@all,

we will honor all old webmasters and rebills of the revshare webmasters, there is no question there.

kristin, obviously the fact that links were pulled is sad, but understandable. We will have to work on getting the program back on its feet. A lot of the content it has was very good and specific which was the reason why it converted well.
In terms of payments, as far as I know payments are currently delayed but we will help the old owners rectify this as quickly as possible, and once we take over operations payouts will be on us of course.

munki, we are not buying ALL sites, only those where we get proof that licensing is completely in order. If you think you have info for me I might not have, please do email me at [email protected]

[Yngwie]

Originally Posted by kristin

I wonder if Manwin will honor the existing WM accounts and continue to pay the revshare they had earned.

"All payouts to affiliates will continue, even beyond the month of August, and will be handled by previous owners during the transition period," a Manwin rep told XBIZ. "Manwin is scheduled to take over all operations at the end of September."

As for if they will continue to pay the revshare I guess we will have to wait and see.

[ThumbLord]

would rather die before I will promote them again !
as stated in my reply to the e-mail.

[Horny Guy]

i could not even get them to reply over money owed ....

will not see nothing in traffic from me again

[strobi]

Manwin is buying up the adult interwebs!

[HomerSimpson]

in the end of the day, this is good news...
they should done it earlier, without closing notice, sine many people pulled their links...

[fatfoo]

This is one of the best banners I've ever seen: very nice design:

[Brad Mitchell]

Originally Posted by eurorevenue

To put a stop to all speculations, I would like to make the following statement:

1.) YES, all webmasters are currently being paid out pending payouts with the exception of ePassporte accounts which are currently being switched over to other payout methods. Those accounts will be paid out next week. All other payouts to webmasters and producers have already been approved for processing.

2.) All rebill earnings of webmasters who have promoted the revshare programs will be honored and paid out on all recurring earnings in the future. Your EuroRevenue account is still active and tracking your earnings!

3.) I am deeply sorry and I apologize to all of you who had to wait for your payouts. Waiting for money sucks, even more does not knowing if you get paid at all. I know you all have bills to pay and obligations to meet. For what it's worth and for those who want to believe it, I would have paid earlier, if it was possible.

4.) Manwin is the best conceivable partner for EuroRevenue. They have it both, the knowledge and the power to provide EuroRevenue with the stability, reliability and forward thinking needed to survive and succeed in this ever changing marketplace.

5.) EuroRevenue is still the best destination for your traffic. Don?t let the hick-ups of the past diminish your earning potential of the future.

I would like to personally thank all of those who have been part of this exciting journey over the past 12 years. You know who you are.

Joe Holm

Congratulations to you Joe and also to your Webmaster Affiliates.

Brad

[PXN]

Braz taking over gfy and playboy next.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Randy West

If you promote anything Manwin involved, you are contributing to your own losses.

[AmateurFlix]

Originally Posted by eurorevenue

To put a stop to all speculations, I would like to make the following statement:

1.) YES, all webmasters are currently being paid out pending payouts with the exception of ePassporte accounts which are currently being switched over to other payout methods. Those accounts will be paid out next week. All other payouts to webmasters and producers have already been approved for processing.

2.) All rebill earnings of webmasters who have promoted the revshare programs will be honored and paid out on all recurring earnings in the future. Your EuroRevenue account is still active and tracking your earnings!

5.) EuroRevenue is still the best destination for your traffic. Don?t let the hick-ups of the past diminish your earning potential of the future.

Here is a simple question for you.

Eurorevenue owes me over $5900 due to my account "payout via" setting having been set to 'unknown', apparently since I began promoting your network several years ago. They didn't know where to send my payments and so they didn't send them or contact me about the problem. Do you intend to pay me what is owed? My affiliate ID is amtflx and I've had an open support ticket about this since July.

I never noticed the lack of payments due to this having been a relatively small number of sales per month, but compounded over several years. I contacted your support about this via the ticket system before the closure announcement, and a week or so later someone replied that they would "look into it" but they never got back to me. I finally got in touch with Huda via email who quickly assured me that he would make things right, and then he sent me a second email claiming that Eurorevenue accounting told him that they don't keep records of affiliate payouts past 90 days and therefore wouldn't pay any older debts since they couldn't prove to themselves that they hadn't already sent payment, which seems quite unbelievable to me, especially considering that they acknowledged the payout via setting was not set and the most recent 90 days of payments hadn't been issued.

He already saw that my payout via information was not set, which he subsequently corrected. How you guys think you might have sent me payments when you didn't know where to send them, is beyond me. Secondly, even if you can't track individual payments (which again, I find hard to believe), your accounting should be able to find a surplus of the amount that is owed within the affiliate payouts account, due to my never having received any payments.

Originally Posted by Nathan

@all,
we will honor all old webmasters and rebills of the revshare webmasters, there is no question there.

Nathan if you're in any position to comment on or help with the above, I would appreciate it. I have been trying to get this resolved since early July and this is not fun or pleasant. I would be happy to leave my links and site reviews etc for eurorevenue up for the coming years as I have done for the past several years, however if I am to be told that I'm going to get screwed over this because Eurorevenue can't prove a negative to themselves, then I am more inclined to remove the links entirely.

If only we could all avoid paying our debts by telling those we owe money to "sorry, I can't prove to myself that I haven't already paid you."

[munki]

Originally Posted by Nathan

munki, we are not buying ALL sites, only those where we get proof that licensing is completely in order. If you think you have info for me I might not have, please do email me at [email protected]

You seem to be able to read, and respond here... so I will give this a go in a public forum...

http://www.tube8.com/search.html?q=whorecraft
http://www.spankwire.com/search/stra...ord/whorecraft
http://www.pornhub.com/video/search?search=whorecraft
http://www.keezmovies.com/video?search=whorecraft

I took screen shots as well, in case we run into issues later. These are all from my good friends site, and I can guarantee he has not licensed these for your use. That was an off the top of my head, no longer than 2 minute compilation of links I can personally verify as being on your site without producer permission or license. If I or anyone else on this board took a bit longer to dig, I'm quite sure the results would not be outwardly favorable for your company's denial of piracy.

How can you even pretend that Manwin is not involved in rampant piracy... it's laughable at this late stage in the game. Clean up... That's all I have left to say. Many will just see dollar signs, and I am well aware that you have a very long standing and well looked at reputation in our industry... that being said, stop stealing from producers and acting like you've done all you can.

I mentioned in your last Manwin announcement thread regarding Brazzers acquisitions and changeovers (http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/978327-manwin-official-statement-re-acquisition-brazzers.html), if anyone has the budget for a copyright infringement seeking technology similar to what Youtube is using, it would be Manwin. No excuses left, you are either stealing from hardworking people, or you are not. Which one are you?

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Here is a simple question for you.

Eurorevenue owes me over $5900 due to my account "payout via" setting having been set to 'unknown', apparently since I began promoting your network several years ago. They didn't know where to send my payments and so they didn't send them or contact me about the problem. Do you intend to pay me what is owed? My affiliate ID is amtflx and I've had an open support ticket about this since July.

I never noticed the lack of payments due to this having been a relatively small number of sales per month, but compounded over several years. I contacted your support about this via the ticket system before the closure announcement, and a week or so later someone replied that they would "look into it" but they never got back to me. I finally got in touch with Huda via email who quickly assured me that he would make things right, and then he sent me a second email claiming that Eurorevenue accounting told him that they don't keep records of affiliate payouts past 90 days and therefore wouldn't pay any older debts since they couldn't prove to themselves that they hadn't already sent payment, which seems quite unbelievable to me, especially considering that they acknowledged the payout via setting was not set and the most recent 90 days of payments hadn't been issued.

He already saw that my payout via information was not set, which he subsequently corrected. How you guys think you might have sent me payments when you didn't know where to send them, is beyond me. Secondly, even if you can't track individual payments (which again, I find hard to believe), your accounting should be able to find a surplus of the amount that is owed within the affiliate payouts account, due to my never having received any payments.




Nathan if you're in any position to comment on or help with the above, I would appreciate it. I have been trying to get this resolved since early July and this is not fun or pleasant. I would be happy to leave my links and site reviews etc for eurorevenue up for the coming years as I have done for the past several years, however if I am to be told that I'm going to get screwed over this because Eurorevenue can't prove a negative to themselves, then I am more inclined to remove the links entirely.

If only we could all avoid paying our debts by telling those we owe money to "sorry, I can't prove to myself that I haven't already paid you."

Hi,

I'll make sure you get paid.. either by them or us.

[Nathan]

@munki,

this is a friggin eurorevenue thread... what does this have to do with you not understanding simple and basic laws?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Randy West

If you promote anything Manwin involved, you are contributing to your own losses.

Will affiliates stand up and fight or roll over and offer their asses up?

[munki]

Originally Posted by Nathan

@munki,

this is a friggin eurorevenue thread... what does this have to do with you not understanding simple and basic laws?

Eurorevenue is now owned by Manwin, correct?

Manwin recently acquired Brazzers, correct?

What part of which laws am I not understanding? I did not cite any laws... and those which I might, I'm well aware that your company is doing the best they can to stay compliant. I will go further and point out those laws are a scape goat to allow theft (whether external or internal) of people's hard work. You will rarely, if ever find me arguing legality, ethics on the other hand is big in my book.

PS... you are right this is a EuroRevenue thread, and as you are already aware I moved my off topic query to a new thread (http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/987096-fabian-nathan-response-thread-regarding-manwin-piracy.html)... Congratulations on the EuroRevenue acquisition!