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Michael O: we need an answer about wire transfers
I cant find any single person that got his money from WALLET via bank wire transfer. Even those guys who asked for wire on friday. Money should be on account long time ago.
IF MONEY IN WALLET ARE SAFE THEN WHY NOBODY GET THEM VIA BANK TRANSFER ? is this because money at St Kitts are frozen and you cant wire them out ? And ACH transfers are working because you had another account for that in US which isnt involved in this drama ? It does looks like that and i think that we should start to worry about cash stored not only on Visa but also on WALLET |
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While you're at it Michael O... what is the origin of the Universe?
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Looks like i will need to fly to usa to get my money lol
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this question is worth answering!
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He already answered it in the official statement thread. He said they are backlogged and they have to manually approve each of them so it takes time.
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So if 1 person works on this (and he said they all do) for 8 hours a day, 4 days straight, how many wires do you think they could have sent out? Where are those people then?
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serious question
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There may be delay because loads of people requested the same time.
I have received two withdrawals to my personal debit card after the issue, those are automatic when your card is approved. Also the US ACH transfers seems to work so the money is still moving. |
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Not all of their cardholders post on GFY. Maybe they have only sent out 20-30 wires. I have no idea how many but he says they're going out.....most likely to other card holders that don't post here. It's an obvious answer.
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not a single person has said they got their wire. |
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And I already said probably why not. Remember they have a lot of casino webmasters and other people too. I even know a few mainstream webmasters who use them. So why would you think that everyone who is getting a wire transfer posts on GFY?
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And that NONE of those post on gfy? Yea right. I have a bridge to sell also, but you can't buy it with epass funds.
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Because they are processing the wires "as they come". Means, first come first serve. I'm pretty sure GFY published the fiasco amongst the first ones, so there must be at least 1 fucking person that sent the wire request in that time frame.
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I said I had no idea how many they send out per day. How am I to know. But I DO know that life exists beyond GFY.
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You know nothing, and your math is even worse.
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These bullshit statements, silence from Chris, document requests all of a sudden, blah blah blah. Go search some of the failed programs/banks before. Same shit different pile. But Chris is such a good guy, he is a bro, it can't be true. Next up he blames someone else (a bank perhaps) - then his little inner circle will play the blame game. It cant be his fault - he is such a stand up guy (part 2). Next week when no one has still been paid i'll say I told you so. 6 months from now this will all be forgotten. |
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Don't worry, according to the recent statement, you're money is "safe and secure". Yet, they're working on getting your money "returned".
So sounds like the money is no longer in their possession / control.
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bump, still waiting for answer (with proof)
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lucPL, I am afraid you won't get it... because from my understanding they didn't even start processing wires... I might be totally wrong, but that's what I was being told!!
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I think it's easier/faster to withdraw to a personal debit card.
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I checked my bank account and received a wire transfer that was initiated on Monday September 6th (Labor Day) and was credited 09-08-2010. This is Wallet -> Withdraw to US Checking Account
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Wire or ACH?
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How much time? Im sure someone would already post that at least money left epass account, I submitted form on Thursday and money didn't even leave epass account yet, they keep saying they're processing it
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So you got a wire?
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JenC are you on the epass payroll? I was told my wire was made a top priority where the fuck is it |
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ugh seriously these damn wires aren't coming out?
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Most of funds are propably stored in St Kitts Bank. Why ? Because when we made internal transfer from wallet to VISA then fund were avaiable to withdrawn in ATM immediately.
This could be not possible if funds from wallet would be in other bank. So if VV cash is frozen because it sits at St Kitts then wallet cash is frozen too. So until anyone gets a wire transfer from there, we can assume that funds are frozen and chances that we will get them are like 3.7% ACH transfers for low sums like 1000$ are going from separate US account thats why its working. But if this account will run out of money then there will be NO WITHDRAWAL at all. I wonder how much times it would take. And i wonder how its possible that St Kitts Banks is holding money. Are they in financial trouble or there is some investigation ? Situation is dramatic... |
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flashfire: how long in past did you wait for wire withdrawal ?
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The feds must be deeply involved in this.
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Of course that number was pulled out of thin air. Her saying such a small number just goes along the stupid defense lines she's put up for epass.
But even if 20 wires were sent, there'd have been someone on gfy to say so. Fact is, not 1 wire was sent out yet, which speaks volumes about the honesty "funds in wallet can be witdrawn" "we are all working on approving the wires manually" "it might be few days since we have a big backlog" None of those is true.
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I think you're right the Withdraw to US Checking Account sounds more like an ACH transaction than a wire transfer...
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I will post it here again. Email I received from Larry, account representative at ePassporte:
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You know why they aren't sending any wires until the mess is cleared up, because they're trying to salvage any and all members that might suddenly feel "safe" once again when the mess is cleared up.
They're not allowing you to withdraw funds for a reason, it would ruin the company. 100% of people would have pulled their money out by now if they could. By not releasing anything yet they're just buying time. I'm willing to bet that at least 20-30% (maybe even more) will chose not to withdraw funds once the Visa situation is resolved. |
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Difficult to see where St. Kitts and ePassporte would resolve things amicably, allowing the cards to be used. Remember, Visa stepped in and shut this down at St. Kitts' request. I doubt they'll just light it back up when all of the problems are fixed.
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If wires are not going out, it's clear money is not there.
If you could get wires out, and if they lost visa, they'd still have people's confidence, i know i'd continue to use them even if my only options to withdraw money were wire/ach/carddebit.
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MO what do you have to say about this? either he is lying or you are
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what bothers me the most is that my international wire transfer has been approved on Sept 3rd and no signs of any wire sent so far (they told me the process takes 7-10 business days). there has been just 5 business days so far, but if nothing happens till next friday, i'm sure we need to check out any other options.
did anyone get their wire transfers so far (debit/credit card withdrawal and ach aside)?
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they said they would send it out, spoke with "Pearl" who I guess was put on my case, and after saying it was good to go last week, today they asked me for more B.S. paperwork, the same paperwork they said they needed last friday, which after I sent said it was all good.
They are stalling it seems.
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that does not necessary mean this. I am more with "tical " - they are not sending the wires to keep the company from collapsing.
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Jesus people, there will not be any wires. Isnt it rather obvious they're lying?
The funds located with St Kitts are either frozen or they're gone. The only $ being sent out are through ACH's. This is because its from a US account (not froze) to other US accounts. You cant send an ACH from a US account to an international account. It also doesnt take 7-10 business days to process a wire. ![]() The owner, Mr. Mallick also didnt write that BS "update" statement. It's clearly written on the fly by someone who doesnt speak English as a first language. So the question one has to ask Michael O (since it was posted on his account) is who wrote it? If it was a legitimate problem with St Kitts or Visa and your business reputation was going down in flames wouldnt you post something along the lines of... The problem is ___________. The money in St Kitts is currently unavailable to us due to _________. The situation should be resolved in ______________. Until that time you will not be able to access your funds in the VV or wallet. We also have an account in the US. If you are an account holder located in the US you can access your funds via ACH deposit. However only $__ is available per account holder due to fund limitations. We will post daily updates on Epassporte.com at _______ time to keep you updated on the situation. Hope I'm wrong but all signs point to one giant cluster fuck. |
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