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Shap · 09-10-2010, 07:19 AM

2010 has been really crazy. I knew things would be rough but I don't think anybody expected things to get as crazy and bad as they have.

Money that is earned and owed is VANISHING in thin air.
- Sponsors are closing up shop and not paying out the last amounts owed.
- Webmaster Checks gets accounts frozen. Sponsors still have not received a penny of their own money back from Webmaster Checks.
- Epassorte

Before this Epass situation I had already been screwed for more in 2010 than all of my 14 years in adult COMBINED! This shit is crazy and I know it's only the tip of the iceberg. We are nowhere near the turning point imo.

I'm taking this epassporte situation as a HUGE Wake Up Call. We run a tight ship here but I'm going to tighten things up even more. Going to really be careful with who I do business with and that includes sponsors, affiliates, billers, whatever.

Have recent events changed how you are going to run your business moving forward?

Amputate Your Head · 09-10-2010, 07:21 AM

2010 is (so far) pretty much exactly as I was expecting. No surprises here.

Adapt or die still applies.

Sly · 09-10-2010, 07:22 AM

SOBV belongs on that list for sure.

Shap · 09-10-2010, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

2010 is (so far) pretty much exactly as I was expecting. No surprises here.

Adapt or die still applies.

Really? I knew some companies would shut down. But have to say I didn't expect a large number of sponsors to get their funds frozen via DOJ and on top of that for something the magnitude of Epass to happen.

Shap · 09-10-2010, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

SOBV belongs on that list for sure.

Yeah for sure. I was just listing what has personally hit me.

Sausage · 09-10-2010, 07:25 AM

I know people hate hearing it, but adapt or die.

If you are a pornographer only, and refuse to entertain the prospect of hitting some mainstream then batter down the hatches because the ride is far from over... some more shit to come. Though those of us with 2 brain cells to rub together are at least diversifying into different areas.

One free tip for stubborn pornographers... there is a giant traffic grab going on. If you fail to see it then you obviously aren't paying attention ... and you either adapt and start building your traffic base, or you die. The affiliate is being cut out of the circle and relegated to the kids table.

CaptainHowdy · 09-10-2010, 07:27 AM

Fatfoo's retirement...

Amputate Your Head · 09-10-2010, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Really? I knew some companies would shut down. But have to say I didn't expect a large number of sponsors to get their funds frozen via DOJ and on top of that for something the magnitude of Epass to happen.

well, i can't say i predicted the ePass situation or anything specific, i just meant in a general downward-winding, business-closing kind of way.... '10 is another year of "great industry house-cleaning" and it's still at work. 2010 = The Year of Herd Thinning.

munki · 09-10-2010, 07:30 AM

I blame the tub... ahh fuck it all in the face.

Paul Markham · 09-10-2010, 07:33 AM

2010 is just the start. 2011 is going to be worse. Bookmark that statement.

Grapesoda · 09-10-2010, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

2010 has been really crazy. I knew things would be rough but I don't think anybody expected things to get as crazy and bad as they have.

Money that is earned and owed is VANISHING in thin air.
- Sponsors are closing up shop and not paying out the last amounts owed.
- Webmaster Checks gets accounts frozen. Sponsors still have not received a penny of their own money back from Webmaster Checks.
- Epassorte

Before this Epass situation I had already been screwed for more in 2010 than all of my 14 years in adult COMBINED! This shit is crazy and I know it's only the tip of the iceberg. We are nowhere near the turning point imo.

I'm taking this epassporte situation as a HUGE Wake Up Call. We run a tight ship here but I'm going to tighten things up even more. Going to really be careful with who I do business with and that includes sponsors, affiliates, billers, whatever.

Have recent events changed how you are going to run your business moving forward?

I agree, been fortunate myself however I only deal with one or two clients these days, and only a handful of agencies

Phoenix · 09-10-2010, 07:35 AM

sharks will learn to breathe aire..and fly...we are fucked in 2011

ContentPimp · 09-10-2010, 07:37 AM

I agree Shap, way too much BS going on!

chronig · 09-10-2010, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

2010 is just the start. 2011 is going to be worse. Bookmark that statement.

<<< don't ever take anything this old kook says seriously unless it's a general-based statement already stated within the same thread like this one above >>>

cambaby · 09-10-2010, 07:38 AM

You aint seen nothing yet, as long as that monkey is in the White House business in America is doomed.

Shap · 09-10-2010, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

well, i can't say i predicted the ePass situation or anything specific, i just meant in a general downward-winding, business-closing kind of way.... '10 is another year of "great industry house-cleaning" and it's still at work. 2010 = The Year of Herd Thinning.

You know I think 2010 = the beginning of the storm. And 2011 is when the Cat 5 Hurricane hits.

Adraco · 09-10-2010, 07:40 AM

Being based in Europe and travelling back and forth all the timeEpassporte sure enough offered great convenience. Still, for what it's worth, they did good to me by transferring my full balance out to my debit card issued by a bank in Europe. So except for a simple currency conversion, no loss here.

Biggest issue now would be the usability, the easiness of getting money via Epass is hard to replace. Especially small payments of $100, $200 or even $500. When the ability to load your Epass account via VISA card disappeared that was inconvenient, but could be worked around. As far as I'm concered it still worked for me to get money out, but what now?

Where to go, who to trust and what to use? All sponsors will be scared, looking at each other, waiting for a new industry standard to emerge. No small program want to invest or adapt their program for a specific solution before one or more of the really big ones go ahead and announce what they will use and support.

The industry is waiting, who will step up, take charge and lead the way?

Ethersync · 09-10-2010, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

You know I think 2010 = the beginning of the storm. And 2011 is when the Cat 5 Hurricane hits.

Unfortunately I think you are right and not just about the porn biz...

Amputate Your Head · 09-10-2010, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

You know I think 2010 = the beginning of the storm. And 2011 is when the Cat 5 Hurricane hits.

absolutely.

i've been saying this since '07 or '08.... the bad times are here until at least 2015.

Paul Markham · 09-10-2010, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage

and you either adapt and start building your traffic base, or you die.

"adapt" "building traffic"

This industry has been building it's traffic base since day 1. The money, resources and experts have put everything into "building the traffic base". While ratios dropped and dropped and dropped.

Wake up and smell the coffee, it's about how many you convert off and how much profit you make off that that traffic. And unless you satisfy the repeat buying customers they are not interested in being herded from pillar to post so someone can make a sale 1 in 1,000s.

I've told you for years traffic was easy to get, converting it and retaining it was what mattered. Yes it's about the content we sold.

Now Tubes have shown you how easy traffic is to get. Yet some still stick to the old ways of building more traffic that buys less.

Serge Litehead · 09-10-2010, 07:50 AM

industry will shrink 80-90%, that's what i thought beginning of this year, although couldn't have imagined such a shake up as what we as an industry currently experiencing. i was thinking most would leave 'quietly' due to sales/revenue drying out.

BlackCrayon · 09-10-2010, 07:55 AM

besides all the tube shit webmasterchecks and epass were a huge hit to the industry, it almost seems like the government is trying to regulate us out or business by going after the money instead of the content.

Shap · 09-10-2010, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Unfortunately I think you are right and not just about the porn biz...

That is the big part of the problem imo.

DVTimes · 09-10-2010, 07:58 AM

things (sales) seem to be improving.

i think things are starting to get better.

Shap · 09-10-2010, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

besides all the tube shit webmasterchecks and epass were a huge hit to the industry, it almost seems like the government is trying to regulate us out or business by going after the money instead of the content.

Or we, as an industry, were too lazy and dumb to set things up properly so it didn't bring heat on ourselves.

Evil Chris · 09-10-2010, 08:01 AM

Ohh look at the doom and gloom up in heeeya. ;-)

cambaby · 09-10-2010, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

besides all the tube shit webmasterchecks and epass were a huge hit to the industry, it almost seems like the government is trying to regulate us out or business by going after the money instead of the content.

DING DING DING we have a winner, you won the INTERNETS!

kazbalah · 09-10-2010, 08:09 AM

sausage can see the future, so i can i

Wizzo · 09-10-2010, 08:13 AM

Net Neutrality, pay to play...

Sausage · 09-10-2010, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

"adapt" "building traffic"

This industry has been building it's traffic base since day 1. The money, resources and experts have put everything into "building the traffic base". While ratios dropped and dropped and dropped.

Wake up and smell the coffee, it's about how many you convert off and how much profit you make off that that traffic. And unless you satisfy the repeat buying customers they are not interested in being herded from pillar to post so someone can make a sale 1 in 1,000s.

I've told you for years traffic was easy to get, converting it and retaining it was what mattered. Yes it's about the content we sold.

Now Tubes have shown you how easy traffic is to get. Yet some still stick to the old ways of building more traffic that buys less.

If you don't have traffic then you get on your knees and beg those who do have it for some.

If you are a content provider, host, etc ... then you get on your knees and beg those who make the money from traffic for money.

Gerco · 09-10-2010, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

2010 is just the start. 2011 is going to be worse. Bookmark that statement.

I 100% agree. The sheep are clueless and just looking for the next herder to give them something to BAA about. 2010 is barley the warmup for what's coming.

closer · 09-10-2010, 08:24 AM

It is just a matter of simple economics isn't it?

About time customers won't pay $40 any more per month for a site which only updates once a week.

About time customers are fed up with these shady hidden sales, xsells and what more

About time the adult bizz gets its lazy but up and start noticing it's not 2002

About time the adult bizz is realizing an adult bizz needs to be managed as any other bizz and it's not an endless cash cow

Shall I go on?

IllTestYourGirls · 09-10-2010, 08:24 AM

Harsher credit card regs, closing of of shore bank accounts and offshore business should be really good for the industry.

Alprazolam · 09-10-2010, 08:26 AM

i love it.

getting rid of the riff raff.

some of the ones worth keeping will take a hit, but we're sending the people who are just sucking up some of the good juice at the bottom of our plates packing.

although it stings for some of the ones that do belong, they will rebound.

say goodbye to the pretenders and plastic players.

i welcome it with open arms.

Alprazolam · 09-10-2010, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer

About time customers are fed up with these shady hidden sales, xsells and what more

Customers didn't do anything about shady cross sales. Idiots who raped and pillaged high risk banking relationships did. The customers actions are completely passive aggressive.

They are the tit we feed on, and that tit has not stopped producing milk. They are as dumb as ever. Trust me.

Brujah · 09-10-2010, 08:31 AM

Deja vu. I think I've read this same thread six times since 1996.

Rochard · 09-10-2010, 08:32 AM

Some people are getting burned, but for others it's an opportunity. The people who are getting screwed the most are sponsors - They put in a huge amount of effort into their programs but had no internal traffic what so ever.

Me, I work for myself. Ratios have gone through the roof but I'm still making money. I didn't have epass, and even with Paypal I never leave any money there. To date I haven't had a sponsor screw me over, but most of my stuff is with solo girls who use mostly CCBill.

So far 2010 has been a great year for me.

Alprazolam · 09-10-2010, 08:32 AM

FYI, there are still people fucking the shit out of this industry. You know them, I know them. They hole up in shitball countries and their reps come here announcing their new sites for their 40000 programs all the time, yet most of you suck their cocks still. He's still over there fucking everything as hard as he can. Take a look around. How educated are you on your landscape. Until someone fucks that guy, and a few more, it's going to stay the way it is. Dirty crosses have not left this game. Don't believe me, go look.

Paul Markham · 09-10-2010, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage

If you don't have traffic then you get on your knees and beg those who do have it for some.

If you are a content provider, host, etc ... then you get on your knees and beg those who make the money from traffic for money.

If you don't have sales you don't have anything and all the begging in the world won't get you anything.

Stopping thinking it's 2000 and wake up, it's about sales.

Paul Markham · 09-10-2010, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer

It is just a matter of simple economics isn't it?

About time customers won't pay $40 any more per month for a site which only updates once a week.

About time customers are fed up with these shady hidden sales, xsells and what more

About time the adult bizz gets its lazy but up and start noticing it's not 2002

About time the adult bizz is realizing an adult bizz needs to be managed as any other bizz and it's not an endless cash cow

Shall I go on?

You missed one.

About time the customer stopped willing to buy a months membership to a site full of the same boring old content he's seen for years. Except it's in HD now.

THIS IS THE ONLY SITE WITH THIS GIRL ON THIS SOFA OR BAD.

But she's on 100 other sofas OR BEDS on A 100 other site and doing the same thing time after time. Even if the girl is "exclusive" the scene is repeated everywhere. Innovation and imagination has dies.

Because we're too busy listening to Chipolata and spending a fortune to get a sign up.

kristin · 09-10-2010, 08:48 AM

Unfortunately 2010 is turning out just how I imagined and believe it will carry heavily over to 2011. The next six months are crucial for programs.

I think the amount of lawsuits should also be added to that list. That increased over 2010.

Alprazolam · 09-10-2010, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You missed one.

About time the customer stopped willing to buy a months membership to a site full of the same boring old content he's seen for years. Except it's in HD now.

THIS IS THE ONLY SITE WITH THIS GIRL ON THIS SOFA OR BAD.

But she's on 100 other sofas OR BEDS on A 100 other site and doing the same thing time after time. Even if the girl is "exclusive" the scene is repeated everywhere. Innovation and imagination has dies.

Because we're too busy listening to Chipolata and spending a fortune to get a sign up.

maybe for your shitty content, but i know many programs still rebilling on the same cycles as many years ago. god you really are out of touch.

Slutboat · 09-10-2010, 08:53 AM

Maybe Twistys needs to diversify...people must be tired of mannequin porn

Pipecrew · 09-10-2010, 08:56 AM

what's scary is contacting all these epass affiliates and telling them they need to change to another payment method in order to get paid and seeing only like 40% of them give a shit and change.

ruff · 09-10-2010, 09:04 AM

There are plenty of webmasters and programs that are doing proper business and taking care of their members and affiliates. Good, honest and professional business always survives. I try to find the cream of the crop to work with and emulate them myself. I could care less about companies that are going down the toilet. I just get out of their way and try not to let them take me down with them. You can play the blame game with tube sites or whatever, people are still buying quality porn in all kinds of different presentations. Just put out a good product and you will be alright, if not, find something else.

LAJ · 09-10-2010, 09:07 AM

Im having a freakin fantastic year.

halfpint · 09-10-2010, 09:14 AM

Things are gonna get worse over the next few years The economy is not get better as our goverments would like us to think Almost every week I hear of biz closing down and people loosing thier jobs and today they said around 40k police officers could loose thier jobs over here in the UK. Things will get much worse before they even begin to get better

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11261739

RyuLion · 09-10-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

2010 is (so far) pretty much exactly as I was expecting. No surprises here.

Adapt or die still applies.

I concur.

JFK · 09-10-2010, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAJ

Im having a freakin fantastic year.

Good for you Jay

Serge Litehead · 09-10-2010, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

what's scary is contacting all these epass affiliates and telling them they need to change to another payment method in order to get paid and seeing only like 40% of them give a shit and change.

a lot of these other 60% have epass as only aval. option for them being able to conduct online biz. for instance getting and cashing western checks in Eastern Europe i imagine costly and timely procedure and probably in many other countries around the globe.

09-10-2010, 07:19 AM	#1
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	2010 Has Turned out to be WAY Worse for the industry than I expected. What's next? 2010 has been really crazy. I knew things would be rough but I don't think anybody expected things to get as crazy and bad as they have. Money that is earned and owed is VANISHING in thin air. - Sponsors are closing up shop and not paying out the last amounts owed. - Webmaster Checks gets accounts frozen. Sponsors still have not received a penny of their own money back from Webmaster Checks. - Epassorte Before this Epass situation I had already been screwed for more in 2010 than all of my 14 years in adult COMBINED! This shit is crazy and I know it's only the tip of the iceberg. We are nowhere near the turning point imo. I'm taking this epassporte situation as a HUGE Wake Up Call. We run a tight ship here but I'm going to tighten things up even more. Going to really be careful with who I do business with and that includes sponsors, affiliates, billers, whatever. Have recent events changed how you are going to run your business moving forward?

09-10-2010, 07:21 AM	#2
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	2010 is (so far) pretty much exactly as I was expecting. No surprises here. Adapt or die still applies. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

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09-10-2010, 07:33 AM	#10
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09-10-2010, 07:40 AM	#17
Adraco Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Onboard an airplane around the globe Posts: 3,734	Being based in Europe and travelling back and forth all the timeEpassporte sure enough offered great convenience. Still, for what it's worth, they did good to me by transferring my full balance out to my debit card issued by a bank in Europe. So except for a simple currency conversion, no loss here. Biggest issue now would be the usability, the easiness of getting money via Epass is hard to replace. Especially small payments of $100, $200 or even $500. When the ability to load your Epass account via VISA card disappeared that was inconvenient, but could be worked around. As far as I'm concered it still worked for me to get money out, but what now? Where to go, who to trust and what to use? All sponsors will be scared, looking at each other, waiting for a new industry standard to emerge. No small program want to invest or adapt their program for a specific solution before one or more of the really big ones go ahead and announce what they will use and support. The industry is waiting, who will step up, take charge and lead the way? __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The truth is not affected by the beliefs, or doubts, of the majority.

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Serge Litehead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind the scenes Posts: 5,190	industry will shrink 80-90%, that's what i thought beginning of this year, although couldn't have imagined such a shake up as what we as an industry currently experiencing. i was thinking most would leave 'quietly' due to sales/revenue drying out. __________________ SilverCrocodile.com Adult web design since '05 Last edited by Serge Litehead; 09-10-2010 at 07:52 AM..

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	besides all the tube shit webmasterchecks and epass were a huge hit to the industry, it almost seems like the government is trying to regulate us out or business by going after the money instead of the content. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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09-10-2010, 08:26 AM	#34
Alprazolam So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 864	i love it. getting rid of the riff raff. some of the ones worth keeping will take a hit, but we're sending the people who are just sucking up some of the good juice at the bottom of our plates packing. although it stings for some of the ones that do belong, they will rebound. say goodbye to the pretenders and plastic players. i welcome it with open arms.

09-10-2010, 08:31 AM	#36
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09-10-2010, 08:32 AM	#37
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09-10-2010, 08:48 AM	#41
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	Unfortunately 2010 is turning out just how I imagined and believe it will carry heavily over to 2011. The next six months are crucial for programs. I think the amount of lawsuits should also be added to that list. That increased over 2010. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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09-10-2010, 08:56 AM	#44
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,885	what's scary is contacting all these epass affiliates and telling them they need to change to another payment method in order to get paid and seeing only like 40% of them give a shit and change.

09-10-2010, 09:04 AM	#45
ruff I have a plan B Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seattle - Miami - St Kitts Posts: 5,501	There are plenty of webmasters and programs that are doing proper business and taking care of their members and affiliates. Good, honest and professional business always survives. I try to find the cream of the crop to work with and emulate them myself. I could care less about companies that are going down the toilet. I just get out of their way and try not to let them take me down with them. You can play the blame game with tube sites or whatever, people are still buying quality porn in all kinds of different presentations. Just put out a good product and you will be alright, if not, find something else. __________________ CryptoFeeds

09-10-2010, 09:07 AM	#46
LAJ Gingerific Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin Posts: 5,567	Im having a freakin fantastic year. __________________ YNOT.com - The original industry resource email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

09-10-2010, 09:14 AM	#47
halfpint GFY's Halfpint Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 15,223	Things are gonna get worse over the next few years The economy is not get better as our goverments would like us to think Almost every week I hear of biz closing down and people loosing thier jobs and today they said around 40k police officers could loose thier jobs over here in the UK. Things will get much worse before they even begin to get better http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11261739 __________________ Get FREE website listings on Cryptocoinshops.net