I'm making a dating affiliate program need feedback - GoFuckYourself.com

Choker · 09-13-2010, 07:41 PM

I'm really stumped here and need some advice. If you promote dating of the three options below which would you prefer.

Please take into consideration that my ims, iframe banners, etc get about 200% more clicks than other dating sites.

1. Let affiliates use my adds sell thier clicks for 5 cents each (premium countries) then send unsold and shit countries back to a url the affiliate specifies. Payout would be 3.75 cents per click this method

2. Pay revshare thru my API system. Current earnings would be like $2 per free account, but this method takes weeks to work.

3. Pay $1 per free account period. Since my dating sites are free the conversion rates are really good, from page 4 on google it converts 1:3 to free accounts.

kazbalah · 09-13-2010, 08:50 PM

Why not offer all 3?

inthestars · 09-13-2010, 10:01 PM

The free account idea sounds good.

Argos88 · 09-13-2010, 10:10 PM

Dating is so 2005.

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LeRoy · 09-13-2010, 10:56 PM

Option #1 looks very enticing

FreeHugeMovies · 09-13-2010, 11:03 PM

Free Accounts = Hello Fraud

BlueDude · 09-13-2010, 11:26 PM

use real people not fake account would be my suggestion, although it highly unlikely you'll do that.

Jack Sparrow · 09-14-2010, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDude

use real people not fake account would be my suggestion, although it highly unlikely you'll do that.

Im still waiting for allison angel to email me back after signing up. Choker cant help fake profiles using porn models though, its all "user made profiles".

Who wants to give his "dating" site a try?

Dating Port · 09-14-2010, 06:29 AM

As a dating affiliate that does almost nothing but promote dating, here's my feedback:

#1 is out of the question. I use that method for overflow traffic I can't really use. Premium countries go to where I can make real money.

#2 really does take too long.

#3 SIYC tried that model (@$2) and had to stop quickly cause they were just giving money away, not making it. I would love for you to use this model. Easy money for me.

CaptainHowdy · 09-14-2010, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Argos88

Dating is so 2005.

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But it was such a good year...

Klen · 09-14-2010, 06:50 AM

If i would make a dating site,then i would allow free registration for females,and charge only males to prevent 1:1000000 ratio between males and females.

netpreference · 09-14-2010, 06:52 AM

How about getting us on your API?

DamianJ · 09-14-2010, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by netpreference

How about getting us on your API?

Post one after 8 years. I think that's a record.

Varius · 09-14-2010, 07:55 AM

#1 and #3 are inviting massive fraud and the hassle of dealing/monitoring it

punkpred · 09-14-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Im still waiting for allison angel to email me back

How was the Dutch webmaster gathering, the one you said you were going to attend? Oh wait, you didn't go, now thats a shocker

Are you going to Amsterdam? its a walk away from where you live, or will you be out of town? You can always delegate Marco or eastwood to represent your business they did when Eric banned your ass

Choker · 09-14-2010, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbalah

Why not offer all 3?

I could but would be a serious hassle for me

fuzebox · 09-14-2010, 08:51 AM

#3 would probably be the most popular... You really gotta clamp down on fraud though and make sure you can monetize those. $1 may be low for a lot of affiliates too.

netpreference · 09-14-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Post one after 8 years. I think that's a record.

Been far too busy making mountains of cash.....

Run out of things to buy so got a little more time on my hands :D

xx

Choker · 09-14-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dating Port

As a dating affiliate that does almost nothing but promote dating, here's my feedback:

#1 is out of the question. I use that method for overflow traffic I can't really use. Premium countries go to where I can make real money.

#2 really does take too long.

#3 SIYC tried that model (@$2) and had to stop quickly cause they were just giving money away, not making it. I would love for you to use this model. Easy money for me.

So what do you suggest? #3 I would have strict fraud control and like every other dating site I would quickly convert low converting to revshare. My $1 per free signup would be the equivelant of another dating sites $3 per free account because my dating sites are free and the join ratio is 300 to 500% better than other dating sites.

Choker · 09-14-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Im still waiting for allison angel to email me back after signing up. Choker cant help fake profiles using porn models though, its all "user made profiles".

Who wants to give his "dating" site a try?

Must suck to hate me so much. Why all the hate and anger? You have nothing better to do than to follow every thread I make and try to throw cheap shots at me? Your business must really be in trouble. Bad things happen to bad people.

WiredGuy · 09-14-2010, 02:04 PM

Revshare most affiliates I imagine would shy away from (myself included). Option 3 is good but payout is too low. Option 1 i imagine would be a descent route to go but would be too low for me and likely attract a lot of fraud.
WG

DBS.US · 09-14-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

If i would make a dating site,then i would allow free registration for females,and charge only males to prevent 1:1000000 ratio between males and females.

Free=Fake

Klen · 09-14-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Free=Fake

It would still be more real female profiles then with charging model.

Varius · 09-14-2010, 02:49 PM

For #3, if you are going to switch accounts that fall out of certain ratios to Revshare or possibly PPS, why bother offering it? Any serious affiliate knows that "pay per free" which is based on scales ends up being the same or in many cases less profitable to them than regular PPS.

Example:

You work out that your average conversion from free to paid is 1 in 20. You are willing to offer $1 per free. Unless you offer less than $20 PPS, they would be better served just forgetting about the per-free program. As well, you would ignore such a headache.

If you plan to not offer any kind of PPS, then indeed it may be attractive to affiliates who dislike Revshare. But basically, it is PPS just in different clothing.

The other option is to do "no ratio" Pay per Free, which would bring you in TONS of new traffic and profiles, but will also cost you a LOT of money unless you prevent fraud VERY well and find a way to later monetize that extra traffic/profiles indirectly.

Choker · 09-14-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Revshare most affiliates I imagine would shy away from (myself included). Option 3 is good but payout is too low. Option 1 i imagine would be a descent route to go but would be too low for me and likely attract a lot of fraud.
WG

Payout is NOT too low. My dating sites are free and the signup to free account is 3 to 5 times what paid dating sites do, so in reality my $1 per free account is like $3 or $4 per free account at any other dating site.

Anyone following this thread should now realize my situation in trying to decide what to do. I'm as lost now as I was before I made this thread.

Choker · 09-14-2010, 03:18 PM

I'm leaning towards a hybrid, revshare but $1 per free signup for the first 100 free signups. This way guys can see how good my site converts to free.

Under revshare each free account ends up earning on average $2.43 from upsells. But again you have to take into consideration that my msn adds, iframe banners and page peels pull double the clicks of others and my signup to free ratio is 3 to 5 times better than other dating sites, I know, for over a year I have spent thousands on testing.

WiredGuy · 09-14-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Payout is NOT too low. My dating sites are free and the signup to free account is 3 to 5 times what paid dating sites do, so in reality my $1 per free account is like $3 or $4 per free account at any other dating site.

Anyone following this thread should now realize my situation in trying to decide what to do. I'm as lost now as I was before I made this thread.

I didn't realize it was a free site, my mistake. In that case, the per free is what I would promote. Especially if you can do international traffic. If you can do non-usa traffic, I got lots of traffic ready for you.
WG

Choker · 09-14-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I didn't realize it was a free site, my mistake. In that case, the per free is what I would promote. Especially if you can do international traffic. If you can do non-usa traffic, I got lots of traffic ready for you.
WG

I can't do non us canada uk or australia. What I think I will do is set it up so affiliates can input a url that all their non english clicks can go to.

Dating Port · 09-14-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

So what do you suggest? #3 I would have strict fraud control and like every other dating site I would quickly convert low converting to revshare. My $1 per free signup would be the equivelant of another dating sites $3 per free account because my dating sites are free and the join ratio is 300 to 500% better than other dating sites.

I don't get what you are trying to do. If your sites are free, how do you figure your convert low converting? Or is that what you are sending out to other sites via API? Are you making an affiliate prog to bring in members to your sites so you can API them back out to make money? You would have to word your TOS very carefully to pull that off on such a large scale. Not to protect yourself from any legalities, but for the real affiliates that actually read them before they sign up.

The models, any of them, don't seem to fit a free site well enough to make it feasable for me, as an affiliate, to promote them.

If I wanted to do PPC, I can send my mainstream to a Google site and make way better on clicks. Adult dating, I do PPS any day for premium countries. Nothing comes close. For my non US, I route them to a PPC site and get the clicks.

Even our dating industry is changing and my sponsors are strong. You got to come up with a model that is strong enough to entice great affiliates and keep the fraud at a minimum.

Choker · 09-14-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dating Port

I don't get what you are trying to do. If your sites are free, how do you figure your convert low converting? Or is that what you are sending out to other sites via API? Are you making an affiliate prog to bring in members to your sites so you can API them back out to make money? You would have to word your TOS very carefully to pull that off on such a large scale. Not to protect yourself from any legalities, but for the real affiliates that actually read them before they sign up.
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Yes this is exactly what I'm doing and have been on a large scale for over a year now, I did a cobranding system and now I'm making a affiliate system.

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09-14-2010, 06:29 AM	#9
Dating Port Useless As Ever Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 731	As a dating affiliate that does almost nothing but promote dating, here's my feedback: #1 is out of the question. I use that method for overflow traffic I can't really use. Premium countries go to where I can make real money. #2 really does take too long. #3 SIYC tried that model (@$2) and had to stop quickly cause they were just giving money away, not making it. I would love for you to use this model. Easy money for me. __________________ Email: admin[at]datingport.co.uk - ICQ: 456416181 It's amazing what you (L)earn when you put some effort into it!

09-14-2010, 07:55 AM	#14
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	#1 and #3 are inviting massive fraud and the hassle of dealing/monitoring it __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

09-14-2010, 02:04 PM	#21
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,451	Revshare most affiliates I imagine would shy away from (myself included). Option 3 is good but payout is too low. Option 1 i imagine would be a descent route to go but would be too low for me and likely attract a lot of fraud. WG __________________ I play with Google.

09-14-2010, 02:49 PM	#24
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	For #3, if you are going to switch accounts that fall out of certain ratios to Revshare or possibly PPS, why bother offering it? Any serious affiliate knows that "pay per free" which is based on scales ends up being the same or in many cases less profitable to them than regular PPS. Example: You work out that your average conversion from free to paid is 1 in 20. You are willing to offer $1 per free. Unless you offer less than $20 PPS, they would be better served just forgetting about the per-free program. As well, you would ignore such a headache. If you plan to not offer any kind of PPS, then indeed it may be attractive to affiliates who dislike Revshare. But basically, it is PPS just in different clothing. The other option is to do "no ratio" Pay per Free, which would bring you in TONS of new traffic and profiles, but will also cost you a LOT of money unless you prevent fraud VERY well and find a way to later monetize that extra traffic/profiles indirectly. __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

09-13-2010, 07:41 PM	#1
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	I'm making a dating affiliate program need feedback I'm really stumped here and need some advice. If you promote dating of the three options below which would you prefer. Please take into consideration that my ims, iframe banners, etc get about 200% more clicks than other dating sites. 1. Let affiliates use my adds sell thier clicks for 5 cents each (premium countries) then send unsold and shit countries back to a url the affiliate specifies. Payout would be 3.75 cents per click this method 2. Pay revshare thru my API system. Current earnings would be like $2 per free account, but this method takes weeks to work. 3. Pay $1 per free account period. Since my dating sites are free the conversion rates are really good, from page 4 on google it converts 1:3 to free accounts. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

09-13-2010, 08:50 PM	#2
kazbalah Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,215	Why not offer all 3? __________________ Link Directory Submitter - Forum Auto Submitter - Article Submitter - Simple SE submitter - Blog Auto Poster - 45 Wordpress Themes - Mis Spelt Keyword Generator - Auto Forum Submitter

09-13-2010, 10:01 PM	#3
inthestars Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 2,021	The free account idea sounds good.

09-13-2010, 10:10 PM	#4
Argos88 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,732	Dating is so 2005. .

09-13-2010, 11:03 PM	#6
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	Free Accounts = Hello Fraud

09-13-2010, 11:26 PM	#7
BlueDude Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 271	use real people not fake account would be my suggestion, although it highly unlikely you'll do that.

09-14-2010, 06:50 AM	#11
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	If i would make a dating site,then i would allow free registration for females,and charge only males to prevent 1:1000000 ratio between males and females.

09-14-2010, 06:52 AM	#12
netpreference Adult Dating Guru Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TRNC Posts: 62	How about getting us on your API?

09-14-2010, 08:51 AM	#17
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,010	#3 would probably be the most popular... You really gotta clamp down on fraud though and make sure you can monetize those. $1 may be low for a lot of affiliates too.

09-14-2010, 03:18 PM	#26
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	I'm leaning towards a hybrid, revshare but $1 per free signup for the first 100 free signups. This way guys can see how good my site converts to free. Under revshare each free account ends up earning on average $2.43 from upsells. But again you have to take into consideration that my msn adds, iframe banners and page peels pull double the clicks of others and my signup to free ratio is 3 to 5 times better than other dating sites, I know, for over a year I have spent thousands on testing. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o