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Old 09-14-2010, 12:21 AM   #1
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Anyone Converting With Adult Cash Programs?

I have about 71 submits for Adult Cash Programs, but I have earned $0.

Does anyone else have similar issues, or are you converting well with them?

What do the submits exactly mean?

Since out of 71, you would think some actually should have been credited.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:58 AM   #2
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Do you mean you submitted 71 galleries?

You can submit a thousand but sales depends on a lot of facts, such as getting listed, page views, niche, the sponsor you're using, etc.

Why don't you ask for help to your sponsor's affiliate manager?
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:02 AM   #3
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Do you mean you submitted 71 galleries?

You can submit a thousand but sales depends on a lot of facts, such as getting listed, page views, niche, the sponsor you're using, etc.

Why don't you ask for help to your sponsor's affiliate manager?
They don't answer my questions.

The stats are:

Raw 8,520
Unique 7,271
Join Hits 139

and now submits are for some reason lowered down to 58

And $0 in earnings.

I'm definitely thinking of promoting new products.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:26 AM   #4
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Submits means the number of users who filled out the first payment form (email, username, password) and entered the second payment form (credit card info,...).

Did you contact Jill on ICQ?
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:28 AM   #5
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Like many other webmasters told you in the other thread: a free porn tube isn't the best way to promote membership sites. Users are looking for free porn and usually only spend money on really great, unique content where they can't find for free.

That's why most tubes promote things like dating, cams and so on.
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Old 09-14-2010, 02:19 AM   #6
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Like many other webmasters told you in the other thread: a free porn tube isn't the best way to promote membership sites. Users are looking for free porn and usually only spend money on really great, unique content where they can't find for free.

That's why most tubes promote things like dating, cams and so on.
I understand what you are saying, however, that doesn't explain 71 submits (moved down to 58 now for some reason), and I get $0 in earnings.

AdultCashPrograms doesn't answer their support, I've sent them emails.

I've just decided to stop promoting them, and move to another program, since AdultCashPrograms is not converting or crediting me the submits.
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:15 AM   #7
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:20 AM   #8
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i like experimental music. i have bought mariah carey and i dont like the music so much, it dont convert for me. someone like the music or am i a total idiot buying something that cannot work for me?
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:24 AM   #9
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i like experimental music. i have bought mariah carey and i dont like the music so much, it dont convert for me. someone like the music or am i a total idiot buying something that cannot work for me?
This still doesn't answer my question with about 78 submits and $0.

Wouldn't you like to be PAID for the SUBMITS?

I'm sure we all would, but when a program for some reason doesn't answer your questions, or simply doesn't credit you for submits, then it's time to move on or see other reviews on it.
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Old 09-14-2010, 07:30 AM   #10
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They show their stats in a very weird way..... and something is wrong. The conversions are also not good....
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:28 AM   #11
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This still doesn't answer my question with about 78 submits and $0.

Wouldn't you like to be PAID for the SUBMITS?

I'm sure we all would, but when a program for some reason doesn't answer your questions, or simply doesn't credit you for submits, then it's time to move on or see other reviews on it.

I received my first email from you at 3am EST. today and replied back this morning. In order to look more closely at your account and help you determine ways to convert your traffic better, I will need additional information. I have emailed you back to request that info. You can reach me directly at [email protected] or on ICQ at 299322588.

In NATS4, the 'submits' column displays when a customer submits info on the first join form collecting email/password. It counts ALL submissions: duplicates, incomplete submissions, incorrect submissions, current member submits, etc.

This is not tracking surfers who are submitting creditcard info and getting declined, but instead 'submits' shows you data from the page prior to that cc billing page.

Submits data only gives you a rough idea of actual customer behaviour as the the fact is lots of surfers enter their email info hoping to get something free or get offered a discounted rate on the next page.

I hope this answered your question, but don't hesitate to contact me if you need anything else.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:52 AM   #12
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Wouldn't you like to be PAID for the SUBMITS?
Selling memberships is a partnership between an affiliate program and you (the affiliate). Usually the earning will be shared 50/50 or 60/40. They make money when you make money.

So you really expect to get paid when a user simply entered a username, password and his mail address into a form without buying a membership? What do you think, how long will aff. programs survive with that kind of business?

If you want to get paid for free signups, you have to promote dating or something like free lifetime passport from sextronix

No offense, just my
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:57 AM   #13
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Not talking about ACP here but I've seen crazy submit amounts too while only little joins come through. Various programs.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:07 PM   #14
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Homegrown Video converts tube traffic

Overall, on average, we convert better on tubes than we ever did on tgp.

So saying tube traffic doesn't convert is more a matter of personal experience than a universal fact, imo.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:48 PM   #15
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Submits means the number of users who filled out the first payment form (email, username, password) and entered the second payment form (credit card info,...).

Did you contact Jill on ICQ?
Submits also include any errors the user may have encountered in that first form. They dont necessarily have to reach the payment form.
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Old 09-14-2010, 07:23 PM   #16
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Selling memberships is a partnership between an affiliate program and you (the affiliate). Usually the earning will be shared 50/50 or 60/40. They make money when you make money.

So you really expect to get paid when a user simply entered a username, password and his mail address into a form without buying a membership? What do you think, how long will aff. programs survive with that kind of business?

If you want to get paid for free signups, you have to promote dating or something like free lifetime passport from sextronix

No offense, just my
No I just wasn't aware that the "submits" meant declined info, duplicates, etc. which was cleared up earlier in this thread.

When you usually think "submit", you think customers that actually PAID because that's the LAST statistic row in the panel, so you think it is the last step.

In the past, I've had several companies collect money and not pay me for my share, and these were customers that had actually paid, but those were other niche markets.
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