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Old 09-15-2010, 08:33 AM   #51
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Oh I wasn't aware that was the Democrats that voted on this, the actual people we're talking about.
If all Republicans are supposed to stick together, one should assume that all Democrats should follow the Democrat president.
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:34 AM   #52
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I'm not trash, so go fuck yourself asshole. That'll be all again.
uh, yeah. you really are.

you're either stupid and have bought into the class warfare of your hero
or
you're an asshole and want to take what is not yours simply because you don't have the ability to earn it yourself.

either way, trash, pure and simple.
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:41 AM   #54
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If there hadn't been unneccessary tax breaks to people who dont need them for the past 10 years, nobody would've thought of this shit. That'll be all.
A profoundly ignorant statement if ever there was one...
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Ron,

Are you on a rampage?

Btw, the pre bush (clinton era tax rates) were not that bad as you know....

I belive the top tier only went to 39 % or so.....

Healthcare aint free....
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Ron,

Are you on a rampage?
odd that you would think calling a spade a spade is a rampage.

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Btw, the pre bush (clinton era tax rates) were not that bad as you know....

I belive the top tier only went to 39 % or so......
Then go back to it for everyone. My objection is to the active class warfare practiced by obama and his idiot followers. If EVERYONE had to pay taxes and not just the top 54%, we might not be in this predicament.

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Sadly, most of the trash doesn't agree
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INSANE. To do this to small businesses in the middle of HUGE unemployment?

Meanwhile, as unemployment stays the same, or continues to rise.... it will still be Bush's fault.... even though Dems have held both houses since 2006.

Either way... BOTH parties are at fault as far as I'm concerned. ALL INCUMBENTS NEED TO GO. The Federal government is getting out of control, and the only side that these politicians are on... is their own side.



I'm totally disgusted and appalled by this utter stupidity.



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son, lying is no way to go thru life and it certainly isn't a way to regain your lost credibility. even here on GFY.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...2&vote =00231

click the link, look at the votes. not a single republican voted no on Johanns' amendment. YOU'RE A LIAR.
now run along and let the adults talk.
Nice url...

No, I didn't lie. I simply stated what another article said, and I will admit I did miss read what it said. I took the Nelson amendment which did and didn't have Republicans vote on it, as to be related to Johanns Amendment, because they're were in the same article and are named after each person and each voted on each others, and each relate to each other.

Looks like I wasn't far off either way, just had the facts twisted up.

Now.... what we have is Republicans saying no all together because a Republican put it through, but when a Democrat tries to help business those same Republicans go the other direction and then go on the news saying Dems aren't helping business..

That's even a bigger twisted up kick in the balls.


What is that you say? Oh yeah, I'll let you get off your day job now.
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I wish we in the US only had the national debt that Canada has!
$538,346,000,000.00 Billion CDN

Obama could just write a check for that today and no more taxes this year!
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If all Republicans are supposed to stick together, one should assume that all Democrats should follow the Democrat president.
I don't care if they stick together, I care if they stick to what they say they believe in, what they yell, campaign on and what they pretend to support.

I don't expect Ron Paul for example to vote with other Republicans all the time, clearly he believes different things - but he votes consistently with his beliefs.

When a group of Republicans all want to amend something and all support it "because of small business" is what they said, then turn around and the same person that made the org amendment voted against another related bill that could help small business.

That's exactly what the hell the problem is...
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A profoundly ignorant statement if ever there was one...
About as ignorant as crying wolf over this. Just pay taxes that you owe. And if you dont feel you owe them, dont pay them. The system is all set up for both choices. Running for office to make changes is always an option as well.
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:27 AM   #62
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They don't need to. But you know what? They do it anyway.

I have to list every last thing I do. Hell, they even asked to see my bank statements which lay out all my expenditures both personal and private. For some reason they MUST know how much I spend on groceries or going out to a nightclub or when I bought a new pair of pants. It's unreal. I guess they need to know I'm not "cheating".

It's time for a change in this country. I say flat tax would be the way to go and eliminate all this bullshit time consuming money costing crap.
History has proven time and again that tax increases don't help the economy. Plus didn't Obama just sell $40bil worth of weapons to Saudia Arabia the other day. I can't say it enough; we need to study and pay just a tad more attention to history.
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Damn democrats. Always growing the economy. Impeach them all.
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Nice url...

No, I didn't lie. I simply stated what another article said, and I will admit I did miss read what it said. I took the Nelson amendment which did and didn't have Republicans vote on it, as to be related to Johanns Amendment, because they're were in the same article and are named after each person and each voted on each others, and each relate to each other.

Looks like I wasn't far off either way, just had the facts twisted up.

Now.... what we have is Republicans saying no all together because a Republican put it through, but when a Democrat tries to help business those same Republicans go the other direction and then go on the news saying Dems aren't helping business..

That's even a bigger twisted up kick in the balls.


What is that you say? Oh yeah, I'll let you get off your day job now.
and the liar continues to jerk.
no surprise.
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About as ignorant as crying wolf over this. Just pay taxes that you owe. .
easily said by the trash who don't have to pay.
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Damn democrats. Always growing the economy. Impeach them all.
we went over that graph the other day. There are other graphs that show that every democrat president left us with a recession including Clinton. In fact Clintons best fiscal quarters were the ones when he first took office and it went down hill from there.
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you........
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For the rest of the thinking world, democrats grow the economy across all economic classes across the board better than republicans do.
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Unfortunately for your play, I am aware that you are smart enough to know that you are just trying to push buttons. Sorry. I'm a wet blanket.
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Unfortunately for your play, I am aware that you are smart enough to know that you are just trying to push buttons. Sorry. I'm a wet blanket.
I don't press buttons.

I'm just never wrong.
as your tax return would confirm.
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Oh, so you think you know my income, and you think it's low, and you are the one saying that Obama wants a class war. I understand. I wonder if you do though. But then again, I know it doesnt matter because the bottom line is that the R guys rule, and the D guys drool. go you
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Sounds like a paper work nightmare. Am I to understand if I upgrade work stations with Dell over the course of the year (in excess of 600 spent) I would have to 1099 Dell? Another example would be Traffic Brokers or independent sites I buy traffic from (normally claimed as advertising with receipts) would instead require a 1099 be sent to all sources?
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Oh, so you think you know my income, and you think it's low, and you are the one saying that Obama wants a class war. I understand. I wonder if you do though. But then again, I know it doesnt matter because the bottom line is that the R guys rule, and the D guys drool. go you
I'd pretend it was about D and R too if I were you.

you're a gutless piece of trash who's not even grateful enough to his betters to want them to get the same tax break as the rest of the tax payers.
the top 1% pay 40% of the taxes collected. you think your life sucks now, imagine how bad it would be if we weren't paying your way.
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BOTH parties work for the same company: the corporations. So both Dems and Repubs do whatever their corporate overlords command them to do.

You see, GIANT corporations DO NOT LIKE small businesses (unless they can buy them/gobble them up) so they're screwing the little guys so we move even closer to that corporate/fascist state all the CEOs want.

Here's what's next: an "acceptable list" of companies you (the American Citizen) can purchase things from: Wal-Mart, McDonalds, Home Depot, Starbucks, etc etc etc. Buy from a company or website that is not on the list? Huge fines and/or jail time. You watch.
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You had to claim it. But now you have to send 1099 to VENDORS. So handymen companies need to send 1099 to Home Depot if they buy a washer or dryer. Or if they go to the same gas station every time, they need to send a 1099 to that gas station, or if they buy a computer from Best Buy they need to send a 1099 to them and so on.

If this isnt job killing I dont know what is. But hey it will lower my health care costs right?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...th-care-costs/
Ah, that clears it up. Thanks for the info. And this has got to be the dumbest law ever. I guess so much for them "simplifying" the tax code. Just another waste of time and money for businesses.
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if you tried to hide money in paypal you are just stupid lol
have fun this jan when they send you a 1099
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What a bunch of morons, YOU are paying for lazy ghetto bitches health care, these poor people in America REFUSE to get a job because its easier for them not to, I mean why should they when YOU ARE PAYING THE BILL. Thanks to your messiah he has fucked you and your children for years, dont even pin this on Bush this was PURELY DEMOCRATS period. Bush was a fiscal fucking idiot, Obama is a fucking fiscal DISASTER.
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It will add 350 billion in tax rev.the right says no deficits well magic isnt going to make them go down. It s a dumb law but lets see if it happens in politics 2012 is a longtime away. Also question if the bush tax cuts were so important why didnt the right make them perm ?they controlled it all at the time.

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I think it's pretty safe to say that most of us who see the clear picture with politics know that bullshit goes on all the time with both parties, and both parties need an overhaul. That said, I don't know why anyone ever then tries to stick up for one party. They BOTH suck, neither of them care about the little guy, which is why in all of this they keep saying they want to help small business while subtly fucking them - because larger corporations love to nomnomnom on those little bastards.
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I'd pretend it was about D and R too if I were you.

you're a gutless piece of trash who's not even grateful enough to his betters to want them to get the same tax break as the rest of the tax payers.
the top 1% pay 40% of the taxes collected. you think your life sucks now, imagine how bad it would be if we weren't paying your way.
Feel free not to pay anything. There're provisions for that built into our system of government.
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and the liar continues to jerk.
no surprise.
That was an insult?

I'll let you get back to pretending your someone in the Industry. I'll see you on your next break.
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That was an insult?

I'll let you get back to pretending your someone in the Industry. I'll see you on your next break.
if your employers thought you were someone to fill in, you wouldn't have to guess at my position in the indusrty.
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Feel free not to pay anything. There're provisions for that built into our system of government.
another idiot statement.

how typical.

its why you've gotten so far.
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if your employers thought you were someone to fill in, you wouldn't have to guess at my position in the indusrty.
Posting on your phone at work will still get you fired, you best be careful.

I know what you do in the business, you're the honorable cum stain cleaner of the industry... When others miss blowing loads and it lands on the bed, wall, ground, etc.. you're the guy that comes by to slurp, errr clean it up.

A real bottom feeder, nobody is confused.
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Posting on your phone at work will still get you fired, you best be careful.

I know what you do in the business, you're the honorable cum stain cleaner of the industry... When others miss blowing loads and it lands on the bed, wall, ground, etc.. you're the guy that comes by to slurp, errr clean it up.

A real bottom feeder, nobody is confused.
hahaha, bitter little boy.

whatever gets you through your pathetic day without blowing your brains out.
I'm glad to help
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hahaha, bitter little boy.

whatever gets you through your pathetic day without blowing your brains out.
I'm glad to help
I'm not bitter about your failures... you're a sad confused little soul, pity is what I have for you.

Psychology wise, they say those that bring up killing yourself or suggesting it to others, means you secretly desire it, as it's fresh enough in your brain to recall for a topic.

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Old 09-15-2010, 01:56 PM   #88
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What a bunch of morons, YOU are paying for lazy ghetto bitches health care, these poor people in America REFUSE to get a job because its easier for them not to, I mean why should they when YOU ARE PAYING THE BILL. Thanks to your messiah he has fucked you and your children for years, dont even pin this on Bush this was PURELY DEMOCRATS period. Bush was a fiscal fucking idiot, Obama is a fucking fiscal DISASTER.
I'm not certain who "YOU" is in your rant, but if it is the people who work, and who pay for EVERYONE'S healthcare, then why are you so upset.

Under the new Obama plan, healthcare would be mandatory, like car insurance is for drivers. This means more people will pay into the healthcare system, so the costs are more evened out.

Now before you rant on, about how this benefits the insurance companies, or "the poor still won't pay" etc. - let's look at the big picture.

By making this compromise, the health insurance companies WILL gain new customers. In return, they must take ALL customers, regardless of pre-existing conditions. They also are not allowed to drop you for any reason, and rate heights are supposed to follow a restrictive formula.

Will it work, or will it just be another corrupt way to do things? Probably the latter, but change takes time, and the system will require tweaks as time goes on.

Would it have been better to do nothing at all, like has happened for the past X number of years? Doubtful. Rates were going up with zero regulation whatsoever, so maybe now the rate increases, which are inevitable, will be slowed down a bit... who knows?

One thing is certain however - as our economy sucks, and as more people are unemployed and/or under employed, the pool of those who can afford health insurance now, is dwindling.

Without any change, it will be unaffordable for the MAJORITY of people. This will mean all of you heartless millionaires out there will get to stand in lines, 20 people deep, at the emergency room, because no one will have coverage. Every condition will be put off until it is dire, and the people will still be taken care of, but YOUR bill will skyrocket, and YOUR wait will be long.

Get it?

More people in the pool is better. It is not an ideal fix, but it is more than nothing.

The people who are not currently covered will be required to have coverage. If they can afford it, it will be mandatory. If they cannot, it will still be provided, albeit via government assistance, which will not be great for THEM, but it still allows the system to function for everyone, including those who are well off.

What the fuck are you guys railing against?

Do you ever stop and think who is controlling your thoughts?

If Obama is in bed with the healthcare industry, then why did they spend almost 1/2 BILLION DOLLAR$ fighting him on it - and continue to do so even today?

WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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