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Old 10-06-2010, 09:45 AM   #1
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Florida webmasters with money stuck in epass wallet post here

I'm out about 7k. Post here how much your out and if you would be willing to put down 10% CASH of what your owed to retain a attorney for a class action lawsuit. I'm talking to people and seeing if there is enough interest to do something, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE here. We need to go after epass NOW before the funds are depleted. Looking to file this in a Florida county court so for now I'm only interested in possibly adding Flroida based webmasters.
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I'm here but did lose anything but I'll tell my friends about this..
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Old 10-06-2010, 09:54 AM   #3
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I thought St Kitts Bank was releasing the cards tomorrow so you could access the funds again?

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not the wallet. 95% chance wallet money will be gone.
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He's talking about wallet funds not the funds "stuck" in VV. Two different things.
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That is for VV , not the wallet ....
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good luck, I doubt anyone gets anymore money as of now... but hopefully!
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He's talking about wallet funds not the funds "stuck" in VV. Two different things.
You are correct
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I thought St Kitts Bank was releasing the cards tomorrow so you could access the funds again?

https://www.sknanb.com/message.htm
He's refering to the wallet money.
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good luck, I doubt anyone gets anymore money as of now... but hopefully!
Well no ach deposits for two days and no access to the site, people who think there is still hope without taking legal action are COMPLETE IDIOTS.
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He's talking about wallet funds not the funds "stuck" in VV. Two different things.
you know people keep saying this,.... I don't care WHERE the fuck my money was, wallet, vv, its GONE. Same shit, money gone. The difference is irrelevant at this point imo.

My money is not two different things, its money and they are keeping it. At this point its ALL a crock of bullshit.
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Do you guys have a way of proving what you are owed in your wallet?
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you know people keep saying this,.... I don't care WHERE the fuck my money was, wallet, vv, its GONE. Same shit, money gone. The difference is irrelevant at this point imo.

My money is not two different things, its money and they are keeping it. At this point its ALL a crock of bullshit.
It's a pretty big difference when two different parties are responsible for two different groups of money. That's like going after Doritos for a Pepsi lawsuit... yeh, they are related, but different.
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you know people keep saying this,.... I don't care WHERE the fuck my money was, wallet, vv, its GONE. Same shit, money gone. The difference is irrelevant at this point imo.

My money is not two different things, its money and they are keeping it. At this point its ALL a crock of bullshit.
No it's not the same thing from a legal perspective. To get funds back from wallet epass needs to be sued. To get funds from VV the bank needs to be sued.
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i'm not in US, but i'd like to enroll
Sorry, I highly doubt a US based attorney would want to get involved with a class action lawsuit involving petitioners from outside the US.
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If you can get them to work on contingency basis, I'm in... otherwise it will just be throwing money down the drain...
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Not gonna happen. If your fine with doing nothing about losing your money then that's your choice.
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Choker as much as I would like to see you get yours and see me get mine out from the wallet I can tell you that you can forget about it. This was a foreign corp that went out of biz. You can't force the owners to pay up. It doesn't work that way in the US and it works even less so in a banana republic. If the money is gone we ain't gonna see shit.

The only thing this guy did is he put his name in the mud and his reputation is toast. If anyone proves me wrong he can keep 1000 of mine. After I get the rest out.
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Choker as much as I would like to see you get yours and see me get mine out from the wallet I can tell you that you can forget about it. This was a foreign corp that went out of biz. You can't force the owners to pay up. It doesn't work that way in the US and it works even less so in a banana republic. If the money is gone we ain't gonna see shit.

The only thing this guy did is he put his name in the mud and his reputation is toast. If anyone proves me wrong he can keep 1000 of mine. After I get the rest out.
Epassorte has physical offices in the US and provides financial services for the US.
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And you can break the corporate veil as oxymoron was used for emails and transfers ...

But this would be a long legal battle ... great for lawyers .
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But this would be a long legal battle ... great for lawyers .
That's an interesting point. There seems to have been a ton of employee crossover.
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And you can break the corporate veil as oxymoron was used for emails and transfers ...

But this would be a long legal battle ... great for lawyers .
An IMMEDIATE FREEZING of all bank accounts would be routine for a class action lawsuit like this. SImply gotta prove to a judge that the respondent is trying to withold funds info from depositers, as in they can't even access their account at epassporte? I would settle for judgements against epassporte if I could'nt get cash. People talk such big shit on this board but when it comes to taking action they shut up. Hilarious.
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How much do you have tied up in your wallet. I have like 7k
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That's an interesting point. There seems to have been a ton of employee crossover.
exact same employees although epass through michael was said they were totally separate.
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So Choker what you are really trying to do is freeze the assets at SKNANB so that people with virtual visa accounts cant get their money unless you get yours?
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So Choker what you are really trying to do is freeze the assets at SKNANB so that people with virtual visa accounts cant get their money unless you get yours?
The SKNANB funds having nothing to do with epassporte anymore, totally separate entities
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zero in the wallet. 2600 or so in ach that never showed up when they stop paying. got maybe 9k in ach until they stop

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So Choker what you are really trying to do is freeze the assets at SKNANB so that people with virtual visa accounts cant get their money unless you get yours?
No, I'm sure epassporte,Chris Mallick, and other top execs have US based bank accounts and assets taht we can go after. Quit trying to put words in my mouth.
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What the hell can be done about ACH withdrawals that seem to have vanished out of thin air? No receipts to the bank account but yet its not in the wallet either.
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Ummm no. They closed those offices and high tailed it out of the country weeks ago. Their offices are no longer US based. They have cut all ties with the US no doubt in anticipation of fucking everyone in the ass.
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Ummm no. They closed those offices and high tailed it out of the country weeks ago. Their offices are no longer US based. They have cut all ties with the US no doubt in anticipation of fucking everyone in the ass.
So your telling me all the US based employees and Chris Mallick himself moved out of the US weeks ago? I don't think so.
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Ummm no. They closed those offices and high tailed it out of the country weeks ago. Their offices are no longer US based. They have cut all ties with the US no doubt in anticipation of fucking everyone in the ass.
Just because they did that 2 weeks ago doesn't mean they are no longer in the US. Its the business before that caused the downfall.
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So as to not put words in your mouth Choker .... two questions

1)If you file a class action lawsuit, wouldn't that freeze all the potential withdrawals from SKNANB? ... and
By doing that class action, would you be hoping to access those SKNANB prepaid funds IF you dont get yours back from E-Pass? (and of course legal fees would come from all this so NO ONE would have a prayer of getting most of their money back.)
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Cool so two people here interested with 17k tied up, I have 7k Brad from Mojo is interested so that's 31k. We hit 100k I'll start researching attorney's that specialize in this sorta law. I wouldn't mind having a financial interest in that Middleman movie. LOL
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:28 AM   #43
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Cool so two people here interested with 17k tied up, I have 7k Brad from Mojo is interested so that's 31k. We hit 100k I'll start researching attorney's that specialize in this sorta law. I wouldn't mind having a financial interest in that Middleman movie. LOL
You might just end up with that LOL.
You have to get Gregory E. Elias in there as well. He's indeed implicated this the whole scheme of things.
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:29 AM   #44
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So as to not put words in your mouth Choker .... two questions

1)If you file a class action lawsuit, wouldn't that freeze all the potential withdrawals from SKNANB? ... and
By doing that class action, would you be hoping to access those SKNANB prepaid funds IF you dont get yours back from E-Pass? (and of course legal fees would come from all this so NO ONE would have a prayer of getting most of their money back.)
Epass wallet funds has NOTHING to do with SKNANB man. The funds at SMNANB do not belong to epassporte so this has nothing at all to do with what I'm talking about.

Most of the money from wallet funds is prolly long gone, however those funds were most likely invested in assets which can be siezed and distributed to the prevailing party in a civil action lawsuit.
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I'm not located in Califorina or the US, but willing to help, I have enough in there to get the total sum close to 100k.

I can help with a little money and all the documents/screen shots I can provide, but I don't think we will see our money again. Yet I feel it is good to have a class act against these scammers.

If you have a min read about how I believe it all unfolded here, might help with the suit or to get a hold of a lawyer: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=991050
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Epassorte has physical offices in the US and provides financial services for the US.
Didn't you meant to say Epassporte had physical offices in the US and provided financial services for the US?
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This is fuckign ridiculous. I asked a question.

What the hell can be done about ACH withdrawals that seem to have vanished out of thin air? No receipts to the bank account but yet its not in the wallet either.
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Choker, have you ran this plan by a personal attorney to see if it is feasible? It might be that going after criminal charges first against any US citizens involved might be your best bet (then followed by a civil case if restitution is not given). Especially since the legal entity Epassporte seems to be dissolved or very near it. The attorney might also bring up the timetables involved and procedures.
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Choker, have you ran this plan by a personal attorney to see if it is feasible? It might be that going after criminal charges first against any US citizens involved might be your best bet (then followed by a civil case if restitution is not given). Especially since the legal entity Epassporte seems to be dissolved or very near it. The attorney might also bring up the timetables involved and procedures.
Until I see 100k in tied up money from folks posting here, it's not even worth the time and trouble of calling a attorney. But yes I would def think criminal charges are in order here. Also the IRS should be involved. I pay taxes on my epassporte income, not having access to them how can I prove what my income is in thru them? I made screencaps yeah but is that enough for the IRS? I mean banks send out hardcopys thats fine for the IRS, epassporte doesn't.
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