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Steiger · 10-06-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tube2k

This is fuckign ridiculous. I asked a question.

What the hell can be done about ACH withdrawals that seem to have vanished out of thin air? No receipts to the bank account but yet its not in the wallet either.

nothing. these numbers are in the batch file, and it hasn't been processed yet (and it will never be processed). so in order to get those funds back to your wallet, someone from epassporte needs to manually or automatically return those funds from the ach batch file to your account.

Steiger · 10-06-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Until I see 100k in tied up money from folks posting here, it's not even worth the time and trouble of calling a attorney. But yes I would def think criminal charges are in order here. Also the IRS should be involved. I pay taxes on my epassporte income, not having access to them how can I prove what my income is in thru them? I made screencaps yeah but is that enough for the IRS? I mean banks send out hardcopys thats fine for the IRS, epassporte doesn't.

you are doing the right thing. we need to freeze all their United International Bank accounts.

Choker · 10-06-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Steiger

you are doing the right thing. we need to freeze all their United International Bank accounts.

I'm not trying to be a hero here. I didn't come on here posting that I'm gonna talk to "my attorney" about this. I don't have a attorney for this. I doubt anyone in this business has a attorney for this sort of case, it's very specialized. I have a attorney on retainer for free speech etc. Anyone who thinks ANY attorney would take this case on in a "pay me when we settle basis" is a complete and total idiot. They watch too many late night personal injury attorney television adds.

I would supect a class action lawsuit would take at least 25k retainer to even get it filed.
I'm just looking to see if their is enough support for something like this to even take the time to research attorneys. I'm not in this to be a hero or "rally the troops". I want MY 7k from epassporte, nothing more nothing less. With only 7k obviously its not even worth going to small claims court over. If I had 100k tied up would I invest 10% of that which is 10k to pursue a lawsuit and try to recover what I could or at the very least some assets ? Hell yes I would.

candyx · 10-06-2010, 12:56 PM

I only have funds in VV but as far as i heard asking around when this mess started, when there is aclass actiion lawsuit lawyers agree on a percentage of the settlement. Of course they take the case if they know they are gonna win, meaning there is enough signatures and damage done... I'd say a specialized lawyer could review the case and tell if it is worth pursuing ...before you have to pay anything ...
maybe i am wrong though...

Kenny B! · 10-06-2010, 01:04 PM

Edit I'm not a florida webmaster, next time I should read

bellskids · 10-06-2010, 01:09 PM

I doubt you will get fuck all. I received updates from the lawyers handling globill's demise and subsequent lawsuits. Every month for about 3 years i would receive a letter stamped all over with US Bankruptcy notifications (postman in UK must have thought I was in shit lol), the amount of money retrieved was tiny. And turned out those letters were worth $25 a pop to the lawyers who of course swallowed all the proceeds.

tranza · 10-06-2010, 01:32 PM

I'm from outside of the US, but I had $13k stuck with Epass, and would be willing to join such lawsuit.

Jack Sparrow · 10-06-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Well no ach deposits for two days and no access to the site, people who think there is still hope without taking legal action are COMPLETE IDIOTS.

Arent you the guy who made a thread NOT to withdraw all funds before?

Funny shit.

Choker · 10-06-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bellskids

I doubt you will get fuck all. I received updates from the lawyers handling globill's demise and subsequent lawsuits. Every month for about 3 years i would receive a letter stamped all over with US Bankruptcy notifications (postman in UK must have thought I was in shit lol), the amount of money retrieved was tiny. And turned out those letters were worth $25 a pop to the lawyers who of course swallowed all the proceeds.

Sigh. Your comparing apples to oranges. Epassporte has operated like a bank, globill did not. US banks are required to keep what 10% of deposits on hand in cash? They invest the rest man. That's how they make money. Anyone thinking that epassporte at any time kept everyones money on a cash account and didn't invest it is not thinking clearly. Well those investments can be traced can't they? Of course they can. They are ASSETS that can be siezed. Does anyone really think epassporte made money just from the transfer fees they charged? LOL. wow

4 years ago 5 year cd's were paying 5% and thats NO RISK cds. 5% on 1 mill US is $50k a year in interest alone. Now take that same 1 mill of OUR epassporte funds put them in a riskier 10% interest investment thats 100k interest a year. Rinse and repeat, this is how money is made, fees are nothing compared to the interest made on funds in the account.

Choker · 10-06-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Arent you the guy who made a thread NOT to withdraw all funds before?

Funny shit.

Arent you the guy who got bitchslapped by google for not knowing how to use xrumer correctly?

gumdrop · 10-06-2010, 01:54 PM

Interesting:
http://www.google.com/profiles/shalizasomani

Jman · 10-06-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Do you guys have a way of proving what you are owed in your wallet?

Maybe they made photocopies of their screen when balance where up

Brad Mitchell · 10-06-2010, 02:11 PM

I think over 75k or so the action is easiest done in the federal court system.

Brad

Choker · 10-06-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I think over 75k or so the action is easiest done in the federal court system.

Brad

Yeah agreed, the federal courts prolly have much more power as far as siezing assets than a district court too.

gumdrop · 10-06-2010, 02:17 PM

Shaliza Somani works with Chris Mallick. He was the Co-executive Producer for the movie Middle Men, whose Producer is Chris Mallick. The production companies for this film are Mallick Media and Oxymoron Entertainment, both owned by Chris Mallick.

http://mallickmedia.com/
http://www.oxymoron-entertainment.com/

Choker · 10-06-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop

Shaliza Somani works with Chris Mallick. He was the Co-executive Producer for the movie Middle Men, whose Producer is Chris Mallick. The production companies for this film are Mallick Media and Oxymoron Entertainment, both owned by Chris Mallick.

http://mallickmedia.com/
http://www.oxymoron-entertainment.com/

Ther ya go, so here's a asset. Nothing to brag about but it's a asset with future profit potential. Ok I'm stretching it just a little. Imagine the press if webmasters he owed money went thru court and was awarded this group and the movie itself? That would generate enough press to sell a few dvds maybe?

Steiger · 10-06-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Ther ya go, so here's a asset. Nothing to brag about but it's a asset with future profit potential. Ok I'm stretching it just a little. Imagine the press if webmasters he owed money went thru court and was awarded this group and the movie itself? That would generate enough press to sell a few dvds maybe?

and we would push the fucking movie into imdb's top 250 list to make more dvd sales.

i'm a dreamer but i ain't the only one...

Jack Sparrow · 10-06-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Arent you the guy who got bitchslapped by google for not knowing how to use xrumer correctly?

Nope. Next time do your homework.

Its funny though how you think you can actually get adult webmasters to work together

u-Bob · 10-06-2010, 02:52 PM

here's a bump.

adulttraffic · 10-06-2010, 03:00 PM

Werent you the one who eurged everone not to remove all their dough from epass?
The writing has been on the wall for weeks and you still have 7k left in epass? LOL

Choker · 10-06-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Nope. Next time do your homework.

Its funny though how you think you can actually get adult webmasters to work together

It's funny how NO ADULT WEBMASTER will work with you considering your history eh?

Choker · 10-06-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic

Werent you the one who eurged everone not to remove all their dough from epass?
The writing has been on the wall for weeks and you still have 7k left in epass? LOL

Yeah I did so fucking what? Are you another surfer who has nothing better to do than run your mouth on this board? Yeah you are.

cherrylula · 10-06-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

It's a pretty big difference when two different parties are responsible for two different groups of money. That's like going after Doritos for a Pepsi lawsuit... yeh, they are related, but different.

but how does anyone really know the truth about this? I trust absolutely zero info they've given us....

cherrylula · 10-06-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

No it's not the same thing from a legal perspective. To get funds back from wallet epass needs to be sued. To get funds from VV the bank needs to be sued.

I just don't trust what either entity has told us at this point. So I guess Mallick vouched for the wallet funds, and the bank the visa funds? Then are they both ripping people off or what, since both have had problems...?

gumdrop · 10-06-2010, 03:30 PM

I wonder if he has anything to do with this company...:
http://www.mallickcustomhomes.com/AboutUs.html

Choker · 10-06-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

I just don't trust what either entity has told us at this point. So I guess Mallick vouched for the wallet funds, and the bank the visa funds? Then are they both ripping people off or what, since both have had problems...?

My observations and conclusions about this entire mess has nothing to do with anything anyone has told me, instead I go by history and what has happened to date. It's obvious that Chris controls wallet and that bank controls vv money. With all that has happened how can anyone think otherwise?

IllTestYourGirls · 10-06-2010, 03:37 PM

Im not from Florida but if you want US webmasters Im in.

u-Bob · 10-06-2010, 03:44 PM

Chris Mallick's companies:
Mallick Media
http://www.mallickmedia.com
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0282270/
OXYMORON ENTERTAINMENT
http://www.oxymoronent.com
MIDDLE PICTURES, INC
http://starpas.cc.state.az.us/script...e-id=F14751282
http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...=11&Ite mid=1

adulttraffic · 10-06-2010, 03:46 PM

Yup, you sure got me! Im a surfer. Arent you the one who sells worthess garbage traffic?

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Originally Posted by Choker

Yeah I did so fucking what? Are you another surfer who has nothing better to do than run your mouth on this board? Yeah you are.

Choker · 10-06-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic

Yup, you sure got me! Im a surfer. Arent you the one who sells worthess garbage traffic?

Easy for a anon surfer to say things like that. Who are you again? That's right your a anon surfer.

Choker · 10-06-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Im not from Florida but if you want US webmasters Im in.

From talking to others yeah seems like it would best to make it a federal thing. So far I see like 70k in tied up funds of people who would want to be in a class action suit.

Jack Sparrow · 10-06-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

It's funny how NO ADULT WEBMASTER will work with you considering your history eh?

Yep you are right, been in the biz for 7+ years and none of them work with me. You got me lol

u-Bob · 10-06-2010, 04:35 PM

another company: Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc
info: http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...Ite mid=1#p38

Choker · 10-06-2010, 04:47 PM

Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc

Incorporated by Christopher Mallick, Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc. is located at 5900 Wilshire Blvd Ste 2250 Los Angeles, CA 90036. Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc. was incorporated on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 in the State of CA and is currently active. Michael J Weiss represents Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc. as their registered agent.

(Michael Weiss (aka Michael Jarrett Weiss (born: July 7, 1969 in Brooklyn, New York, USA) (married to Lara McGrath Weiss in 2000) was one of the producers for the movie Middle Men and also linked to MIDDLE PICTURES, INC)

Choker · 10-06-2010, 04:52 PM

If I were a betting man I would say that CM invested our wallet funds into his movie production. Unless the epassporte agreement we all agreed to says otherwise, nothing is to stop him from investing our epassporte wallet funds into whatever he sees fit. Or am I wrong here? I would have expected him to invest in REASONABLE risk investments, I mean my bank invests my money into mortgages, it's how they make thier money. Epass is no different than a bank in this regard. If they had to rely on just transfer fees for income they wouldn't have ever made any serious amounts of money.

Choker · 10-06-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Yep you are right, been in the biz for 7+ years and none of them work with me. You got me lol

Look here boy, I don't have time for your petty posts. Why don't you scamper away like the cockroach you are, men are discussing big things here. Go in your room and play with your gameboy or something. When you have something more than smart ass remarks to make come back and try again, until then your just demonstrating to all what a real PISS ANT you really are. Punk.

I DID NOT REPORT YOU to google so get over yourself. I am not the reason you got fucked so bad in the serps. Google fucked you because you MAY HAVE cheated them and MAY HAVE got caught. Nothing to do with me so shove your vendetta you have for me up your ass.

u-Bob · 10-06-2010, 04:57 PM

technically, because we were able to withdraw our funds at any time (until this whole mess of course), he wasn't allowed to invest one single penny of our money.

Choker · 10-06-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

technically, because we were able to withdraw our funds at any time (until this whole mess of course), he wasn't allowed to invest one single penny of our money.

Nah man, look at all the posts from guys claiming to have 6 figures in their epass accounts. People used epass like a bank, assumming the money would be safe. There should have easily been over 50 mill just sitting in accounts. To not invest that money in safe investments like a bank does would be stupid. I figured they invested in secure bonds or something, the interest from the money in those investments was prolly what they paid employees with. Again the fees they charge for transfers would nowhere near provide enough income to make epassporte run smoothly like it idid for so long.

And of course you could withdraw your funds at any time, just like a bank they prolly kept close to 10% of deposits in account to cover daily withdrawels. Is it possible that the day the ACH deposits stopped going out was the day those reserve funds were depleted?

Agent 488 · 10-06-2010, 05:13 PM

mallick in retrospect was a golden spoon idiot and bullshitter coming from a family of shady fuckers. hope you guys get your money.

willow · 10-06-2010, 05:53 PM

I can't see how you can pursue this for less than what you're owed, why spend 50k chasing 17k?

You'll lose anyway, although I wish you wouldn't.
1. All US monies have been spent or returned to clients who could really make trouble, if you haven't been paid out yet, that's not you. (Wallet funds)
2. Everything else is offshore, making it tricky to freeze.
3. Even if you could find it AND freeze it, they will counter sue to drain your resources and they will get it overturned when you can't prove your case.
4. You can't prove your case because I'm certain the terms and conditions of your account state that you don't have a leg to stand on.
5. Mallick isn't poor, so he can outlast you even with frozen funds. Those funds are making interest in escrow while he does it.
6. You won't pierce the corporate veil because you'll have to prove (legally) intent to defraud. I haven't seen any.
6a. Taking your deposit monies and financing a movie with it isn't fraud. Foolish if true, but not fraud. That's why it's called a deposit, not an escrow account.
6b. They probably aren't a US bank by definition anyhow, more like a payment service provider.
7. You may be ever so lucky to get right to the end and they'll BK on you, and you'll get a tiny percentage of nothing.

Anyhow, long and short of it is that you may prevail after spending years and much $$$, but you'll have a worthless judgement in your hands and little else. If I was your attorney, I'd be asking for a 50k retainer and I'd be coming back for more before discovery was up, let alone trial motions. I know, there's no justice.

PAR · 10-06-2010, 06:34 PM

OK Im in.. pending I cant start take my cash out via ATM tomorrow..

u-Bob · 10-07-2010, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop

Shaliza Somani works with Chris Mallick. He was the Co-executive Producer for the movie Middle Men, whose Producer is Chris Mallick. The production companies for this film are Mallick Media and Oxymoron Entertainment, both owned by Chris Mallick.

http://mallickmedia.com/
http://www.oxymoron-entertainment.com/

One Star Media is owned by Shaliza Somani who used to work for epassporte. Shaliza Somani also worked with Chris Mallick on the movie Middle Men. One Star Media lists ePassporte, Oxymoron Entertainment, Mallick Media as clients. One Star Media uses the same phone number as epassporte and is located at the same address as one of the epassporte offices.
http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...Ite mid=1#p47

u-Bob · 10-07-2010, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Nah man, look at all the posts from guys claiming to have 6 figures in their epass accounts. People used epass like a bank, assumming the money would be safe. There should have easily been over 50 mill just sitting in accounts. To not invest that money in safe investments like a bank does would be stupid. I figured they invested in secure bonds or something, the interest from the money in those investments was prolly what they paid employees with. Again the fees they charge for transfers would nowhere near provide enough income to make epassporte run smoothly like it idid for so long.

And of course you could withdraw your funds at any time, just like a bank they prolly kept close to 10% of deposits in account to cover daily withdrawels. Is it possible that the day the ACH deposits stopped going out was the day those reserve funds were depleted?

Technically, what a bank does is fraud. A type of government-sanctioned fraud, but still fraud. The difference between what a bank does and what epassporte did, is that the government backs the bank if things go wrong.

u-Bob · 10-07-2010, 05:27 AM

2 more companies according to the Chris Mallick Wiki: http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...Ite mid=1#p49 :
247 Commercial Marketing
and
24 Hour Commercial Marke

10-07-2010, 05:33 AM

it is better file in California, where Chris have some properties.

FreeHugeMovies · 10-07-2010, 07:46 AM

I am owed 5,200 and live in Charlotte, NC

Choker · 10-07-2010, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe

it is better file in California, where Chris have some properties.

Good idea

Jack Sparrow · 10-07-2010, 08:03 AM

You sound like a broken record. I dont care who set that up nor do i care who reported me. I dont need serps or rankings because money is made by webmasters embedding videos and webmasters MAKE money embedding our videos for free.

Are you mad because my system actually makes them money while your traffic isnt worth using for anything else then feeding it to boost stats?

Or are you mad that people actually dare to post that your traffic is crap in this thread and you find the need to curse at them like a few posts up?

Talk soon,
your friend frisky

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Originally Posted by Choker

Look here boy, I don't have time for your petty posts. Why don't you scamper away like the cockroach you are, men are discussing big things here. Go in your room and play with your gameboy or something. When you have something more than smart ass remarks to make come back and try again, until then your just demonstrating to all what a real PISS ANT you really are. Punk.

I DID NOT REPORT YOU to google so get over yourself. I am not the reason you got fucked so bad in the serps. Google fucked you because you MAY HAVE cheated them and MAY HAVE got caught. Nothing to do with me so shove your vendetta you have for me up your ass.

Choker · 10-07-2010, 02:15 PM

Just talked to a attorney and here's the scoop

Minimum for a federal lawsuit is $75k therefore one US BASED person that has lost at least 75k would need to be the main petitioner.

Additional petitioner's could be from any country, not just the US.

No attorney worth a shit would ever take on a case like this without a retainer of at least 25k US. The petition alone would be over 200 pages. This ain't small claims where you fill out a premade form. So there is extensive costs in preparing the motion itself. Discovery, ie even finding out what exactly is going on including where the money is, who the players really are cannot proceed without a pending lawsuit. In other words you can't go and subpeona Epassorte without first having a pending lawsuit.

Good news anyone can join in as a petitioner.
Bad news is a significant retainer would be needed to begin anything.

Steiger · 10-07-2010, 02:27 PM

bump! i'm sure there's a person with 75k in the wallet.

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10-06-2010, 01:09 PM	#56
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10-06-2010, 12:56 PM	#54
candyx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 125	I only have funds in VV but as far as i heard asking around when this mess started, when there is aclass actiion lawsuit lawyers agree on a percentage of the settlement. Of course they take the case if they know they are gonna win, meaning there is enough signatures and damage done... I'd say a specialized lawyer could review the case and tell if it is worth pursuing ...before you have to pay anything ... maybe i am wrong though...

10-06-2010, 02:17 PM	#65
gumdrop Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 482	Shaliza Somani works with Chris Mallick. He was the Co-executive Producer for the movie Middle Men, whose Producer is Chris Mallick. The production companies for this film are Mallick Media and Oxymoron Entertainment, both owned by Chris Mallick. http://mallickmedia.com/ http://www.oxymoron-entertainment.com/ __________________ I am NOT Godaddy! Most excellent Domains & Cheap Hosting “Buy an iPad, kill a Chinaman” - Brendan O’Neill

10-06-2010, 02:52 PM	#69
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10-06-2010, 03:00 PM	#70
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10-06-2010, 03:30 PM	#75
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10-06-2010, 03:37 PM	#77
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10-06-2010, 03:44 PM	#78
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	Chris Mallick's companies: Mallick Media http://www.mallickmedia.com http://www.imdb.com/company/co0282270/ OXYMORON ENTERTAINMENT http://www.oxymoronent.com MIDDLE PICTURES, INC http://starpas.cc.state.az.us/script...e-id=F14751282 http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...=11&Ite mid=1

10-06-2010, 04:35 PM	#83
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10-06-2010, 04:47 PM	#84
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10-06-2010, 04:52 PM	#85
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	If I were a betting man I would say that CM invested our wallet funds into his movie production. Unless the epassporte agreement we all agreed to says otherwise, nothing is to stop him from investing our epassporte wallet funds into whatever he sees fit. Or am I wrong here? I would have expected him to invest in REASONABLE risk investments, I mean my bank invests my money into mortgages, it's how they make thier money. Epass is no different than a bank in this regard. If they had to rely on just transfer fees for income they wouldn't have ever made any serious amounts of money. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

10-06-2010, 04:57 PM	#87
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	technically, because we were able to withdraw our funds at any time (until this whole mess of course), he wasn't allowed to invest one single penny of our money.

10-06-2010, 05:13 PM	#89
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	mallick in retrospect was a golden spoon idiot and bullshitter coming from a family of shady fuckers. hope you guys get your money.

10-06-2010, 05:53 PM	#90
willow Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NY, NY, USA Posts: 131	I can't see how you can pursue this for less than what you're owed, why spend 50k chasing 17k? You'll lose anyway, although I wish you wouldn't. 1. All US monies have been spent or returned to clients who could really make trouble, if you haven't been paid out yet, that's not you. (Wallet funds) 2. Everything else is offshore, making it tricky to freeze. 3. Even if you could find it AND freeze it, they will counter sue to drain your resources and they will get it overturned when you can't prove your case. 4. You can't prove your case because I'm certain the terms and conditions of your account state that you don't have a leg to stand on. 5. Mallick isn't poor, so he can outlast you even with frozen funds. Those funds are making interest in escrow while he does it. 6. You won't pierce the corporate veil because you'll have to prove (legally) intent to defraud. I haven't seen any. 6a. Taking your deposit monies and financing a movie with it isn't fraud. Foolish if true, but not fraud. That's why it's called a deposit, not an escrow account. 6b. They probably aren't a US bank by definition anyhow, more like a payment service provider. 7. You may be ever so lucky to get right to the end and they'll BK on you, and you'll get a tiny percentage of nothing. Anyhow, long and short of it is that you may prevail after spending years and much $$$, but you'll have a worthless judgement in your hands and little else. If I was your attorney, I'd be asking for a 50k retainer and I'd be coming back for more before discovery was up, let alone trial motions. I know, there's no justice.

10-06-2010, 06:34 PM	#91
PAR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,836	OK Im in.. pending I cant start take my cash out via ATM tomorrow..

10-07-2010, 05:27 AM	#94
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	2 more companies according to the Chris Mallick Wiki: http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...Ite mid=1#p49 : 247 Commercial Marketing and 24 Hour Commercial Marke

10-07-2010, 05:33 AM	#95
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	it is better file in California, where Chris have some properties.

10-07-2010, 07:46 AM	#96
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	I am owed 5,200 and live in Charlotte, NC

10-07-2010, 02:15 PM	#99
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Just talked to a attorney and here's the scoop Minimum for a federal lawsuit is $75k therefore one US BASED person that has lost at least 75k would need to be the main petitioner. Additional petitioner's could be from any country, not just the US. No attorney worth a shit would ever take on a case like this without a retainer of at least 25k US. The petition alone would be over 200 pages. This ain't small claims where you fill out a premade form. So there is extensive costs in preparing the motion itself. Discovery, ie even finding out what exactly is going on including where the money is, who the players really are cannot proceed without a pending lawsuit. In other words you can't go and subpeona Epassorte without first having a pending lawsuit. Good news anyone can join in as a petitioner. Bad news is a significant retainer would be needed to begin anything. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

10-07-2010, 02:27 PM	#100
Steiger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cemetery. Diggin' a grave for John Christopher Mallick (2/12/1959 - XXX) R.I.P Posts: 678	bump! i'm sure there's a person with 75k in the wallet.