Do you think Israel will still exist 50 years from now? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Overload · 09-19-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand

Oslo accords

erm ... is it that useless paper israel signed too? i mean ... how come palestines are NOT ALLOWED TO DRILL WELLS TO INSURE ACCESS TO WATER FOR THEIR CITIZENS?! hmm? israel today, does what hitler did with poland ... invaded and occupied

THATs what jews learned from the past - seek soil in the east

cordoba · 09-19-2010, 02:06 PM

How many years does Israel have to exist until it is accepted that it is a Jewish country (assuming Jews still make up a majority of the population)?

50, 100 , 200. 1,000? I mean what about the muslim occupation of Cyprus? Or for that matter Turkey? At what point in history did the Turks have a rightful claim to Anatolia above the Greeks? Presumably, by your rationale, not for the first 50 years at least after they invaded and conquered it.

And I guess the Turks didn't have the excuse of being there 2,000 years previously, being forced out by the Romans, and then having half their number liquidated after 2,000 years of persecution wherever they subsequently tried to settle.

But to answer your question, yes Israel is fucked in the long term, in 50 years 8 million Jews will be surrounded by around a billion arabs, most of whose countries will by then have nuclear weapons.

Amputate Your Head · 09-19-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

Unless you're jewish why would anyone give a fuck what happens to Israel? To most Israel is not any different as some small country in africa. Ive never seen anything that says "mad in israel" ! So why would a give a damn?

ignorance is bliss.

GregE · 09-19-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

If there is another major terrorist attack on the US you can bet that our support for the Israeli Government will all but vanish overnight.

That might be the wrongest thing you've ever said.

If there's another major terrorist attack on the USA, the American government (and people) will adamantly oppose whatever the terrorists seek and, by extension, they will adamantly support that which the terrorists most oppose.

That's just human nature if nothing else.

Amputate Your Head · 09-19-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE

That might be the wrongest thing you've ever said.

If there's another major terrorist attack on the USA, the American government (and people) will adamantly oppose whatever the terrorists seek and, by extension, they will adamantly support that which the terrorists most oppose.

That's just human nature if nothing else.

not human nature.

establishment (system) programming.

theking · 09-19-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

I'm very well versed in the history of how and when Israel was created, the UN has made many blunders in the past and will continue to do so...

AND it was supposed to be a two state solution.... "The resolution recommended the termination of the British Mandate for Palestine and the partition of the territory into two states, one Jewish and one Arab"

But NOTHING you said (or rather pasted) address the question I posed which is - do you think Israel will fall in the next 50 years...

If there is another major terrorist attack on the US you can bet that our support for the Israeli Government will all but vanish overnight.

You just are not the sharpest knife in the drawer...now are you?

GregE · 09-19-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

not human nature.

establishment (system) programming.

Not at all.

If an outsider strikes at your friends and neighbors (to say nothing of your immediate family), you're not going to sympathize with that outsider. Quite the opposite.

That's the way people are wired.

Amputate Your Head · 09-19-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE

Not at all.

If an outsider strikes at your friends and neighbors (to say nothing of your immediate family), you're not exactly going to sympathize with that outsider. Quite the opposite.

That's the way people are wired.

people are wired that way on purpose.

GregE · 09-19-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

people are wired that way on purpose.

This goes far deeper than programing. A basic survival instinct is something we're all born with.

Amputate Your Head · 09-19-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE

A basic survival instinct is something we're all born with.

you have been taught this since birth.
it is not your true nature.
you have been lied to....
about everything.

Pics Traffic · 09-19-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

you have been taught this since birth.
it is not your true nature.
you have been lied to....
about everything.

ignorance is bliss.

Jai · 09-19-2010, 03:14 PM

israel wont exist just to the 1 fact that the islamic population doubles every 50 years..and all other religions actually cant grow their communities as easy.

sad reality. but more than just israel wont exist in 50 years

xNetworx · 09-19-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

Let me guess.. You are a Jew.
You people would be nothing w/out our support. Nothing. If you were on the other side of the wall, we would have taken those nukes in a heartbeat and had you ass fucked like Iraq. But you're friends. We need you for now.

You have no idea how many attacks on the US have been prevented by Israeli intelligence.

Amputate Your Head · 09-19-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

You have no idea how many attacks on the US have been prevented by Israeli intelligence.

or planned and carried out by Israeli intelligence.

Pics Traffic · 09-19-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

You have no idea how many attacks on the US have been prevented by Israeli intelligence.

How many? Please list a few.

The Demon · 09-19-2010, 04:24 PM

Slow Roosevelt is indeed slow regarding facts and reality.

blofer80 · 09-19-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

I am in no way intending this to be an anti-semitic thread, some of my good friends are Jewish and I believe in religious freedom and tolerance.

I just think nature has a way of correcting imbalances and the occupation of Palestine is something that is unsustainable and as soon as our support of this brutal regime weakens there is a high likelihood that Israel will fall.

Israel yes, but you will not.

Blingbaby · 09-19-2010, 05:08 PM

Not the first crusade to fail, I think the longest the west held on to any piece of Levant was 100-200 years. Even the Romans didn't do very well. It's just a matter of time.

cykoe6 · 09-19-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

And if you think that nukes guarantees the continued existence of Israel then you are very mistaken. They would guarantee their immediate and utter collapse if they fired a single nuke.

I am surprised such a learned scholar as yourself is unfamiliar with the Sampson Option. Israeli policy is to launch a nuclear strike against its enemies if the existence of the state is in mortal danger. As I stated before...... if Israel ceases to exist then it would mean that the entire Middle east and most of the world is enveloped in a radiation cloud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

moeloubani · 09-19-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

I am surprised such a learned scholar as yourself is unfamiliar with the Sampson Option. Israeli policy is to launch a nuclear strike against its enemies if the existence of the state is in mortal danger. As I stated before...... if Israel ceases to exist then it would mean that the entire Middle east and most of the world is enveloped in a radiation cloud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

People need to know that this means if Israel becomes a non-Jewish state then the Jewish side will use their nuclear weapons to destroy the whole country. Israel's existence isn't threatened by any military as much as it's threatened by the fact that the Arab-Israeli population is on track to outnumber the Jewish-Israeli population.

Then Israel has to make a decision: do we have a democracy, or do we strip the vote from the Arabs and give them second class citizen status. If they give the Arabs a second class citizen status, there will eventually be a rebellion. If they give Arabs a democracy, the Jewish side will become a minority and Israel will fall that way.

What I am trying to say is that given enough time, Israel WILL use their nukes and not in fear of a military attack but rather as an attack done by the sore losers of a failed political movement on their own people. If there is ANY danger right now in the world it's that these guys are going to eventually cloud the Earth with radioactive fallout because they won't care - they'll all choose to die like a suicidal cult.

moeloubani · 09-19-2010, 06:10 PM

Look at this quote from that Samson Option page:

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"I consider it all hopeless at this point. ... We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen, before Israel goes under."

What they are saying here is that they would nuke the US before they would fall. That day will be a bitter sweet I told you so, when Israeli nuclear bombs hit the United States obliterating the civilian population just because the US denied Israel support. You don't think it'll happen? You guys literally are having a gun put to your heads and being marched into these wars because if Israel falls, then they're going to kill everyone. (They said it, not me!)

Pics Traffic · 09-19-2010, 06:15 PM

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"I consider it all hopeless at this point. ... We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen, before Israel goes under."

How thoughtful of them.

SuzzyQ · 09-19-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

You just are not the sharpest knife in the drawer...now are you?

A few French Fries short of a full Happy Meal.

Jaeger · 09-19-2010, 07:24 PM

often jews spout this nuclear line but i think nukes should never be used against civilian targets, ever, ever, ever by anyone. The jews have proven relatively solid in battle against mulsims at any rate, so i dont know why they need them anyway.

I watched this doco called 'white light, black rain' about the hiroshima and nagasaki bombings.... i think every world leader should watch that and if they did i doubt any of them would consider using them no matter what....

people's mothers turning to dust whilst they watch? thats just one example of many.. not cool

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The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	Slow Roosevelt is indeed slow regarding facts and reality. __________________ Greed is Good

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Jaeger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Dark Side of Uranus Posts: 567	often jews spout this nuclear line but i think nukes should never be used against civilian targets, ever, ever, ever by anyone. The jews have proven relatively solid in battle against mulsims at any rate, so i dont know why they need them anyway. I watched this doco called 'white light, black rain' about the hiroshima and nagasaki bombings.... i think every world leader should watch that and if they did i doubt any of them would consider using them no matter what.... people's mothers turning to dust whilst they watch? thats just one example of many.. not cool __________________ been in this industry since 2002.. gettin' too old for this shit.. Last edited by Jaeger; 09-19-2010 at 07:25 PM..

09-19-2010, 02:06 PM	#52
cordoba Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,226	How many years does Israel have to exist until it is accepted that it is a Jewish country (assuming Jews still make up a majority of the population)? 50, 100 , 200. 1,000? I mean what about the muslim occupation of Cyprus? Or for that matter Turkey? At what point in history did the Turks have a rightful claim to Anatolia above the Greeks? Presumably, by your rationale, not for the first 50 years at least after they invaded and conquered it. And I guess the Turks didn't have the excuse of being there 2,000 years previously, being forced out by the Romans, and then having half their number liquidated after 2,000 years of persecution wherever they subsequently tried to settle. But to answer your question, yes Israel is fucked in the long term, in 50 years 8 million Jews will be surrounded by around a billion arabs, most of whose countries will by then have nuclear weapons.

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Jai Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: http://www.fitnesspornbabes.com Posts: 6,915	israel wont exist just to the 1 fact that the islamic population doubles every 50 years..and all other religions actually cant grow their communities as easy. sad reality. but more than just israel wont exist in 50 years

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Blingbaby Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,079	Not the first crusade to fail, I think the longest the west held on to any piece of Levant was 100-200 years. Even the Romans didn't do very well. It's just a matter of time.