ICM List Of .XXX Supporters--Are These 240 .XXX "Supporters" Really Part of Us? - GoFuckYourself.com

davecummings · 06-15-2010, 04:32 PM

Please see: http://forum.icann.org/lists/icm-opt.../msg12555.html .

From the list at the bottom of the above link, please provide your input to the Free Speech Coalition--basicly, which of the ICM-supplied names of the 240 "supporters" of .xxx do you recognize as being actual members of the Adult Internet Community, and which ones do you recognize as not being a part of us.

Your opinion and input is needed by FSC as they "prep" for the upcoming ICANN meeting where the .xxx decision is on the agenda. Feel free to add appropriate comments that might help FSC surface the validity of the ICM-named individual "supporters" of .xxx.

Please either post your input here (and)/or send an email directly to [email protected].

Please expedite. Thanks for helping the Adult Internet Community.

Barefootsies · 06-15-2010, 04:33 PM

There are many board regulars, and recognized industry names, who have gone on the record here @ GFY, as well as in XBIZ (trade mag), supporting .XXX.

baddog · 06-15-2010, 04:35 PM

It is my understanding that in order to get a .xxx domain you had to sign something saying you supported the concept. I figured they got their supporters that way.

LickMyBalls · 06-15-2010, 04:35 PM

http://forum.icann.org/lists/icm-opt.../msg12470.html

The religious nuts have outnumbered by far.

Oracle Porn · 06-15-2010, 04:36 PM

Traffic Master
traffic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Referrals
referrals@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Live Cams
cams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ya looks real

MaDalton · 06-15-2010, 04:36 PM

i don't know any of them and i have a quite a lot of clients. and 50% of them sound either arabic or indian

davecummings · 06-15-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

There are many board regulars, and recognized industry names, who have gone on the record here @ GFY, as well as in XBIZ (trade mag), supporting .XXX.

Would you please let FSC know if the ICM list contains any of the individuals who you recall in support of .xxx. Thanks!

baddog · 06-15-2010, 04:42 PM

Bogus names listed for sure. Like Oracle pointed out.

Nikki_Licks · 06-15-2010, 04:44 PM

How many more times do we need to do this until that fat ass bastard Lawley leaves the filed?

slavdogg · 06-15-2010, 04:49 PM

all the names look fake to me
non of them are in the industry

Why · 06-15-2010, 05:41 PM

many of those do not look real to me. and how many of them have any sort of vested interest in the porn industry and how many are just right wingers looking to corral porn sites(the main fear of .xxx)

i mean i could walk into any church in america, sell them a bunch of misunderstandings about the measure and get hundreds of additions over night. a obfuscated list is a pretty weak one.

opinions of people that have no vested interest or greater understanding of how it all works should be tossed aside!

Barefootsies · 06-15-2010, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davecummings

Would you please let FSC know if the ICM list contains any of the individuals who you recall in support of .xxx. Thanks!

I have seen plenty of threads on GFY in the past rounds of this fandago where people openly supported it. I have also read in at least a few XBIZ monthly mags where people were asked about .XXX and they had on record supporting it when asked. So they can easily flip open, or do a search. Not sure if those people are on that list or not.

I'll take a look here in a bit....

brentbacardi · 06-15-2010, 05:58 PM

I googled a few... one was a guy from some European country I couldnt point to on a map who took photos it seemed of fully clothed women and scenery. Didn't look adult at all, made met art look like german goo girls.

I doubt it was someone with the same name as it was something like jfsdkfljsd skdjflsdj, thats why I picked it out to google.

I think its a bullshit list... with bullshit people... for bullshit...

Barefootsies · 06-15-2010, 06:02 PM

Ran a quick search. No time for skimming through the last 12 months of XBIZ.
http://www.xbiz.com/polls/poll.php?id=119287

http://www.xbiz.com/articles/80047

My guess is the supporters are domain squatters, and those who have some incentive. Although those quoted over the years, and some known on record for supporting it, are not all unknowns.

I wanna say there was even a thread on XBIZ.NET with one of the main dude's there supporting it. You'd have to run a search, I wanna say off the top of my head it was Helmy, but I could be wrong. So don't hold me to it.

davecummings · 06-15-2010, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Ran a quick search. No time for skimming through the last 12 months of XBIZ.
http://www.xbiz.com/polls/poll.php?id=119287

http://www.xbiz.com/articles/80047

My guess is the supporters are domain squatters, and those who have some incentive. Although those quoted over the years, and some known on record for supporting it, are not all unknowns.

I wanna say there was even a thread on XBIZ.NET with one of the main dude's there supporting it. You'd have to run a search, I wanna say off the top of my head it was Helmy, but I could be wrong. So don't hold me to it.

Thanks----FSC is keeping up with your input, comments, opinions, etc --Thanks!

Ron Bennett · 06-15-2010, 11:17 PM

.xxx is a non-starter. Ain't going to happen...

Too much opposition, including a lot by various religious and family values organizations - they too are against .xxx, because they feel that .xxx would legitimize porn; being endorsed by the government.

And then there are issues of what happens to adult sites in .com and other gTLDs. Would all adult content be restricted to .xxx ... and if so, how does one define what adult content is and will it be enforced. Many thorny issues.

For anyone doubting the challenges involved with .xxx should take a look at what happened to .kids - it was proposed as a gTLD, but was soundly rejected. Some countries, such as the U.S. later implemented .kids as a sub-TLD (ie. .kids.US)...

However, even a sub-TLD .xxx is a non-starter too, because it was imply endorsement by the countries who choose to add it under their ccTLD ... I can say with confidence, there will not be a .xxx.US anytime soon, if ever; .US has very strict rules on what they allow, and already filters out "dirty" word domains.

Ron

KillerK · 06-15-2010, 11:31 PM

I'm all for .xxx, if it shuts down redtube and the other big tubes.

darksoul · 06-15-2010, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK

I'm all for .xxx, if it shuts down redtube and the other big tubes.

go back to school

martinsc · 06-16-2010, 12:23 AM

u-Bob · 06-16-2010, 06:07 AM

1. I don't recognize any of the names.
2. did a google search and couldn't find any adult sites linked to those names. (ignored the names such as "webmaster", "billing",...)

JFK · 06-16-2010, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slavdogg

all the names look fake to me
non of them are in the industry

They dont look familiar to me eighter and as MaDalton pointed out:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i don't know any of them and i have a quite a lot of clients. and 50% of them sound either arabic or indian

Could it be, that they used outsourced posters to try and stack the deck ?

davecummings · 06-16-2010, 10:39 AM

Good input--thanks!

Nikki_Licks · 06-16-2010, 12:51 PM

Sent my info to Diane

Of course I left out the part about lawley sucks!

crazytrini85 · 06-16-2010, 01:14 PM

I don't know anyone from that list, though it would be a lot better if they would actually disclose the email address. So many bogus names on there, no question.

I agree with BF that its probably domain squatters in support.

crazytrini85 · 06-16-2010, 01:16 PM

Webmaster
webmaster@xxxxxxxxx

Billing
billing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Traffic Master
traffic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Referrals
referrals@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Yea, real legit.

Is this a joke?

davecummings · 06-16-2010, 05:05 PM

Diane Duke just phoned me to say how helpful the above comments are---thanks!

Black Ops · 06-16-2010, 05:45 PM

Dave, google the names on there. Only a couple show up and good luck connecting them to adult, cause I don't see it. They should at least come up under whois info for domain names, 2257 record holders or something.

Redrob · 06-16-2010, 05:54 PM

If all they got was 240 supporters, they are sooooooo lame.

davecummings · 06-17-2010, 09:22 AM

FYI, the ICANN meeting starts on Monday and ends on Jun 25th.

davecummings · 06-17-2010, 04:08 PM

Bump--er cars are fun for folks of all ages.

u-Bob · 06-17-2010, 04:43 PM

bump

Redrob · 06-17-2010, 10:00 PM

Another bump.

davecummings · 06-18-2010, 08:05 AM

This is the Friday bump before FSC completes prepping and flies to the ICANN meeting to defend us!

baddog · 09-08-2010, 08:26 AM

You can add Tony299 to that list

Si · 09-08-2010, 08:36 AM

don't forget the emails are hidden that's why they are listed as somebody@xxxxxxxxxxx

But anyway, 240 supporters? haha they ain't going to get anywhere.

Tickler · 09-08-2010, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

don't forget the emails are hidden that's why they are listed as somebody@xxxxxxxxxxx

But anyway, 240 supporters? haha they ain't going to get anywhere.

And there are ways around the somebody@xxxxxxxxxxx.

Anybody want some affiliate account IDs.

And then there is a domainer who seems to specialize in C*P* baiting domains contrary to ICMs/IFFORs proposed policies.

Alprazolam · 09-20-2010, 03:18 PM

dave you are a good dude.

Theo · 09-20-2010, 03:47 PM

you could spot fakes all over..

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...o q=&gs_rfai=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

etc

Pushcube · 09-20-2010, 05:37 PM

Sorry only seen the "240" list an hour ago, but I can confirm some of the names/emails are not fake and do indeed run adult sites.

davecummings · 09-20-2010, 08:42 PM

I wonder if all of the people present posting comments of support for .xxx via the [email protected] are REAL stakeholders.

Check out: http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-revised-icm-agreement/

06-15-2010, 04:32 PM	#1
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	ICM List Of .XXX Supporters--Are These 240 .XXX "Supporters" Really Part of Us? Please see: http://forum.icann.org/lists/icm-opt.../msg12555.html . From the list at the bottom of the above link, please provide your input to the Free Speech Coalition--basicly, which of the ICM-supplied names of the 240 "supporters" of .xxx do you recognize as being actual members of the Adult Internet Community, and which ones do you recognize as not being a part of us. Your opinion and input is needed by FSC as they "prep" for the upcoming ICANN meeting where the .xxx decision is on the agenda. Feel free to add appropriate comments that might help FSC surface the validity of the ICM-named individual "supporters" of .xxx. Please either post your input here (and)/or send an email directly to [email protected]. Please expedite. Thanks for helping the Adult Internet Community. __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]

06-15-2010, 04:33 PM	#2
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	There are many board regulars, and recognized industry names, who have gone on the record here @ GFY, as well as in XBIZ (trade mag), supporting .XXX. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

06-15-2010, 04:36 PM	#5
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	Traffic Master traffic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Referrals referrals@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Live Cams cams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ya looks real __________________

06-15-2010, 04:36 PM	#6
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,822	i don't know any of them and i have a quite a lot of clients. and 50% of them sound either arabic or indian __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

06-15-2010, 04:44 PM	#9
Nikki_Licks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 6,323	How many more times do we need to do this until that fat ass bastard Lawley leaves the filed? __________________ Amateur Content ICQ: 292 356 077

06-15-2010, 04:35 PM	#3
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	It is my understanding that in order to get a .xxx domain you had to sign something saying you supported the concept. I figured they got their supporters that way.

06-15-2010, 04:35 PM	#4
LickMyBalls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 756	http://forum.icann.org/lists/icm-opt.../msg12470.html The religious nuts have outnumbered by far.

06-15-2010, 04:42 PM	#8
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Bogus names listed for sure. Like Oracle pointed out.

06-15-2010, 04:49 PM	#10
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	all the names look fake to me non of them are in the industry __________________ Adult Traffic for Sale

06-15-2010, 05:41 PM	#11
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	many of those do not look real to me. and how many of them have any sort of vested interest in the porn industry and how many are just right wingers looking to corral porn sites(the main fear of .xxx) i mean i could walk into any church in america, sell them a bunch of misunderstandings about the measure and get hundreds of additions over night. a obfuscated list is a pretty weak one. opinions of people that have no vested interest or greater understanding of how it all works should be tossed aside!

06-15-2010, 05:58 PM	#13
brentbacardi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,425	I googled a few... one was a guy from some European country I couldnt point to on a map who took photos it seemed of fully clothed women and scenery. Didn't look adult at all, made met art look like german goo girls. I doubt it was someone with the same name as it was something like jfsdkfljsd skdjflsdj, thats why I picked it out to google. I think its a bullshit list... with bullshit people... for bullshit... __________________ Go Fuck Yourself!

06-15-2010, 06:02 PM	#14
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Ran a quick search. No time for skimming through the last 12 months of XBIZ. http://www.xbiz.com/polls/poll.php?id=119287 http://www.xbiz.com/articles/80047 My guess is the supporters are domain squatters, and those who have some incentive. Although those quoted over the years, and some known on record for supporting it, are not all unknowns. I wanna say there was even a thread on XBIZ.NET with one of the main dude's there supporting it. You'd have to run a search, I wanna say off the top of my head it was Helmy, but I could be wrong. So don't hold me to it. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?" Last edited by Barefootsies; 06-15-2010 at 06:05 PM..

06-15-2010, 11:17 PM	#16
Ron Bennett Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,653	.xxx is a non-starter. Ain't going to happen... Too much opposition, including a lot by various religious and family values organizations - they too are against .xxx, because they feel that .xxx would legitimize porn; being endorsed by the government. And then there are issues of what happens to adult sites in .com and other gTLDs. Would all adult content be restricted to .xxx ... and if so, how does one define what adult content is and will it be enforced. Many thorny issues. For anyone doubting the challenges involved with .xxx should take a look at what happened to .kids - it was proposed as a gTLD, but was soundly rejected. Some countries, such as the U.S. later implemented .kids as a sub-TLD (ie. .kids.US)... However, even a sub-TLD .xxx is a non-starter too, because it was imply endorsement by the countries who choose to add it under their ccTLD ... I can say with confidence, there will not be a .xxx.US anytime soon, if ever; .US has very strict rules on what they allow, and already filters out "dirty" word domains. Ron __________________ Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales

06-15-2010, 11:31 PM	#17
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	I'm all for .xxx, if it shuts down redtube and the other big tubes.

06-16-2010, 12:23 AM	#19
martinsc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 27,047	__________________ Make Money

06-16-2010, 06:07 AM	#20
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	1. I don't recognize any of the names. 2. did a google search and couldn't find any adult sites linked to those names. (ignored the names such as "webmaster", "billing",...)

06-16-2010, 10:39 AM	#22
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	Good input--thanks! __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]

06-16-2010, 12:51 PM	#23
Nikki_Licks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 6,323	Sent my info to Diane Of course I left out the part about lawley sucks! __________________ Amateur Content ICQ: 292 356 077

06-16-2010, 01:14 PM	#24
crazytrini85 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Over there. Posts: 817	I don't know anyone from that list, though it would be a lot better if they would actually disclose the email address. So many bogus names on there, no question. I agree with BF that its probably domain squatters in support. __________________ These are my top converting sponsors.

06-16-2010, 01:16 PM	#25
crazytrini85 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Over there. Posts: 817	Webmaster webmaster@xxxxxxxxx Billing billing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Traffic Master traffic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Referrals referrals@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Yea, real legit. Is this a joke? __________________ These are my top converting sponsors.

06-16-2010, 05:05 PM	#26
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	Diane Duke just phoned me to say how helpful the above comments are---thanks! __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]

06-16-2010, 05:45 PM	#27
Black Ops Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 292	Dave, google the names on there. Only a couple show up and good luck connecting them to adult, cause I don't see it. They should at least come up under whois info for domain names, 2257 record holders or something. __________________ If you can read this sig, you're already dead.

06-16-2010, 05:54 PM	#28
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	If all they got was 240 supporters, they are sooooooo lame.

06-17-2010, 09:22 AM	#29
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	FYI, the ICANN meeting starts on Monday and ends on Jun 25th. __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]

06-17-2010, 04:08 PM	#30
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	Bump--er cars are fun for folks of all ages. __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]

06-17-2010, 04:43 PM	#31
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	bump

06-17-2010, 10:00 PM	#32
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Another bump.

06-18-2010, 08:05 AM	#33
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	This is the Friday bump before FSC completes prepping and flies to the ICANN meeting to defend us! __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]

09-08-2010, 08:26 AM	#34
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	You can add Tony299 to that list

09-08-2010, 08:36 AM	#35
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	don't forget the emails are hidden that's why they are listed as somebody@xxxxxxxxxxx But anyway, 240 supporters? haha they ain't going to get anywhere.

09-20-2010, 03:18 PM	#37
Alprazolam So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 864	dave you are a good dude.

09-20-2010, 03:47 PM	#38
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	you could spot fakes all over.. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...o q=&gs_rfai= http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai= http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai= http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai= etc

09-20-2010, 05:37 PM	#39
Pushcube Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 54	Sorry only seen the "240" list an hour ago, but I can confirm some of the names/emails are not fake and do indeed run adult sites. __________________ Server Optimisation - Pentesting - Secure WP Installs.

09-20-2010, 08:42 PM	#40
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	I wonder if all of the people present posting comments of support for .xxx via the [email protected] are REAL stakeholders. Check out: http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-revised-icm-agreement/ __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]