Who still thinks they will get their Epassport money? - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 09-22-2010, 08:02 AM

A few days after this mess blew up someone started a poll on how many thought they would get paid. Now I think the result will be very different.

So vote away.

J. Falcon · 09-22-2010, 08:04 AM

I know you're sure we wont get any money back. I've read some of your posts throughout this mess and they are pessimistic to say the least.

DEA - banned for life · 09-22-2010, 08:07 AM

Look up in the Sky !!!....its a bird..its a plane....Wait.....its a Flock of Funds in Motion !!

wolfshade · 09-22-2010, 08:08 AM

The VV money will be returned to the rightful owners, no doubt about that. I also have no doubt that it is going to take several months.

I also have no doubt its to late to save Epass even if they do get things restored.

Simple logic.

Paul Markham · 09-22-2010, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I know you're sure we wont get any money back. I've read some of your posts throughout this mess and they are pessimistic to say the least.

I built my business on money in the bank and not "The checks in the post." promises.

2intense · 09-22-2010, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA

Look up in the Sky !!!....its a bird..its a plane....Wait.....its a Flock of Funds in Motion !!

HomerSimpson · 09-22-2010, 08:20 AM

nothing really suggests we are going to get our money, except "your money is safe" statement, and I think it's not enough...

bloggerz · 09-22-2010, 08:20 AM

Yes I do and so confident I'm still accepting Epassport payments

wolfshade · 09-22-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

nothing really suggests we are going to get our money, except "your money is safe" statement, and I think it's not enough...

Sure there is it is called the law. Funds frozen must be returned to their rightful owners eventually under penalty of law, so the VV funds are actually safe.

You should really read up on the rules Visa, banks and to a lesser extent Epass has to play with.

Ethersync · 09-22-2010, 08:27 AM

I already got it... (more or less)

beta-tester · 09-22-2010, 08:27 AM

I was in touch with some people from epass and they assured me that this will be solved! It may take some but the issue can be resolved!

DEA - banned for life · 09-22-2010, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfshade

The VV money will be returned to the rightful owners, no doubt about that. I also have no doubt that it is going to take several months.

I also have no doubt its to late to save Epass even if they do get things restored.

Simple logic.

i concur

Davy · 09-22-2010, 08:43 AM

Somebody ban DEA from all epass threads...

Roby · 09-22-2010, 08:46 AM

Yes I do and so confident I'm still accepting Epassport payments

wolfshade · 09-22-2010, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beta-tester

I was in touch with some people from epass and they assured me that this will be solved! It may take some but the issue can be resolved!

I don't think that will matter at all.

Even if they could switch it back on today I think its to late and the damage done.

The power users already switched to alternatives and now have a system in place that does work. So even if Epass returns, why switch back and go through all the hassle and expenses if you have a perfectly good and operational system going.

I think the real winners are Payoneer and Okpay they snatched up good business, and it will take more then just restoring Visa(Or any brand of card) functionality to get those clients back.

I doubt the small change webmasters who would go back(no offense) can keep them in business.

Best case scenario Epass will be a shadow of its former self.

Worst case, Epass goes belly up and IMO the latter is more likely then the first.

Dreamteam · 09-22-2010, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfshade

I don't think that will matter at all.

Even if they could switch it back on today I think its to late and the damage done.

The power users already switched to alternatives and now have a system in place that does work. So even if Epass returns, why switch back and go through all the hassle and expenses if you have a perfectly good and operational system going.

I think the real winners are Payoneer and Okpay they snatched up good business, and it will take more then just restoring Visa(Or any brand of card) functionality to get those clients back.

I doubt the small change webmasters who would go back(no offense) can keep them in business.

Best case scenario Epass will be a shadow of its former self.

Worst case, Epass goes belly up and IMO the latter is more likely then the first.

Man you are soo wrong ...
Everyone will use epassporte again

..

wolfshade · 09-22-2010, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamteam

Man you are soo wrong ...
Everyone will use epassporte again

..

Thats what they said 7 years ago to me as well. Look where we are now

I hope you are right though, just don't think you are.

fris · 09-22-2010, 09:04 AM

going, going, gone...

DEA - banned for life · 09-22-2010, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy

Somebody ban DEA from all epass threads...

Maybe you souhld be banned from all epass threads?...you seem to be in all the ones im in !!

beta-tester · 09-22-2010, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfshade

I don't think that will matter at all.

Even if they could switch it back on today I think its to late and the damage done.

The power users already switched to alternatives and now have a system in place that does work. So even if Epass returns, why switch back and go through all the hassle and expenses if you have a perfectly good and operational system going.

I think the real winners are Payoneer and Okpay they snatched up good business, and it will take more then just restoring Visa(Or any brand of card) functionality to get those clients back.

I doubt the small change webmasters who would go back(no offense) can keep them in business.

Best case scenario Epass will be a shadow of its former self.

Worst case, Epass goes belly up and IMO the latter is more likely then the first.

neither of those alternatives come closer to epass.... I am willing to bet that sponsors will immediately switch back to epass as most of them already have everything setup that worked for years flawlessly... And webmasters will be more than happy to continue receiving epass payments. Remember my words and you'll see, very soon!

notime · 09-22-2010, 09:42 AM

The business model epass has is so simpel & perfect it could make any bank feel threatened. Governments did not have a grip on it.

Somehow I think epass is being held hostage for macro economic reasons to live up to new recent laws like, but not limited to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer since I read that people with business accounts and/or individuals with approved ID's in countries (not under embargo) can still use bank withdraw, ACH and to creditcards and even still accept epass. Michael O still answers questions and phonelines work I read.

If I had pockets as deep as Google, I'd buy epass, get it compliant, fix it up and even try to add Amex, Mastercard and go mainstream to compete with banks and Paypal.

I wired somebody $500 last month in Czech and I got charged 78$ from 2 banks together since I send it on my cost....Paypal sucks only because of chargebacks.

Epass fixed both of these problems above, I guess that doesn't make their competition happy out there with these silly chargeback/overcharging legal 'mobsters' on the other end.....Did banks not get us in an economic crisis in the first place?

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scarlettcontent · 09-22-2010, 10:19 AM

Yes I do and so confident I'm still accepting Epassport payments

flashfire · 09-22-2010, 10:26 AM

already got it and I'm also accepting epass again...all wallet however

Sextember · 09-22-2010, 10:39 AM

I think it's gone... at least it is still in motion.

Paul Markham · 09-22-2010, 10:42 AM

Are those who think it will stick around talking about the Wallet or Virtual Card?

OneWhoKnows · 09-22-2010, 10:54 AM

As I have all my money in the wallet and I'm actually getting it out there right at the moment through transfer to personal CC... Yeah, I'm confident I'll get everything out

J. Falcon · 09-22-2010, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I built my business on money in the bank and not "The checks in the post." promises.

Even banks can collapse. For most of us who have been using epass for many years without problems, this was not a totally unexpected surprise. Therefore I made sure epass was not a primary form of receiving payments, plus I never kept too much cash in there. They got me pretty good though, I have 2k sitting in my Virtual.

2intense · 09-22-2010, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy

Somebody ban DEA from all epass threads...

u kidding?

klinton · 09-22-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime

The business model epass has is so simpel & perfect it could make any bank feel threatened. Governments did not have a grip on it.

Somehow I think epass is being held hostage for macro economic reasons to live up to new recent laws like, but not limited to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer since I read that people with business accounts and/or individuals with approved ID's in countries (not under embargo) can still use bank withdraw, ACH and to creditcards and even still accept epass. Michael O still answers questions and phonelines work I read.

If I had pockets as deep as Google, I'd buy epass, get it compliant, fix it up and even try to add Amex, Mastercard and go mainstream to compete with banks and Paypal.

I wired somebody $500 last month in Czech and I got charged 78$ from 2 banks together since I send it on my cost....Paypal sucks only because of chargebacks.

Epass fixed both of these problems above, I guess that doesn't make their competition happy out there with these silly chargeback/overcharging legal 'mobsters' on the other end.....Did banks not get us in an economic crisis in the first place?

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Frisky Cash · 09-22-2010, 02:44 PM

Next Poll is "how many ePass threads can you make in 1 month?"
a) 100
b) 1000
c) more than the amount of $'s epass owes it's customers.

CYF · 09-22-2010, 02:46 PM

I voted No. I really doubt anyone is going to see the VV money.

Paul Markham · 09-23-2010, 11:27 PM

Anyone want to change their vote?

It's sad news today, but to be honest I expected it. Build on money in your bank only.

View Poll Results: Do you think Epassport will pay you your money?
Yes I do and so confident I'm still accepting Epassport payments	21	16.28%
Yes I think so.	49	37.98%
No, it's gone.	59	45.74%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

09-22-2010, 08:02 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Who still thinks they will get their Epassport money? A few days after this mess blew up someone started a poll on how many thought they would get paid. Now I think the result will be very different. So vote away. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

09-22-2010, 08:04 AM	#2
J. Falcon www.AdultCopywriters.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 31,618	I know you're sure we wont get any money back. I've read some of your posts throughout this mess and they are pessimistic to say the least. __________________ Adult Copywriters SEO Content for Porn Sites sales at adultcopywriters dot com

09-22-2010, 08:07 AM	#3
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09-22-2010, 08:08 AM	#4
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	The VV money will be returned to the rightful owners, no doubt about that. I also have no doubt that it is going to take several months. I also have no doubt its to late to save Epass even if they do get things restored. Simple logic. __________________ Returning soon to a browser near you..............

09-22-2010, 08:20 AM	#7
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09-22-2010, 08:27 AM	#10
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09-22-2010, 08:27 AM	#11
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09-22-2010, 08:43 AM	#13
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09-22-2010, 08:46 AM	#14
Roby Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Praga Posts: 8,035	Yes I do and so confident I'm still accepting Epassport payments __________________ PicsForDesign - images for your Promo Work for Designers and Artists

09-22-2010, 09:04 AM	#18
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09-22-2010, 09:42 AM	#21
notime Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cyberspace Posts: 8,022	The business model epass has is so simpel & perfect it could make any bank feel threatened. Governments did not have a grip on it. Somehow I think epass is being held hostage for macro economic reasons to live up to new recent laws like, but not limited to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer since I read that people with business accounts and/or individuals with approved ID's in countries (not under embargo) can still use bank withdraw, ACH and to creditcards and even still accept epass. Michael O still answers questions and phonelines work I read. If I had pockets as deep as Google, I'd buy epass, get it compliant, fix it up and even try to add Amex, Mastercard and go mainstream to compete with banks and Paypal. I wired somebody $500 last month in Czech and I got charged 78$ from 2 banks together since I send it on my cost....Paypal sucks only because of chargebacks. Epass fixed both of these problems above, I guess that doesn't make their competition happy out there with these silly chargeback/overcharging legal 'mobsters' on the other end.....Did banks not get us in an economic crisis in the first place? [/rant]

09-22-2010, 10:19 AM	#22
scarlettcontent www.scarlettcontent.net Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pleiades Posts: 6,031	Yes I do and so confident I'm still accepting Epassport payments __________________ Scarlett Content - Adult Content Provider - High Quality Adult Stock Content for your Websites, Mobile Media and Print. Over 3 Million Images (14,000 photo sets) over 5000 Videos - Many Niches, US-2257, Awesome Prices. Over 40 years in the adult industry. [email protected] Follow us on twitter.

09-22-2010, 10:26 AM	#23
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	already got it and I'm also accepting epass again...all wallet however

09-22-2010, 10:39 AM	#24
Sextember Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 85	I think it's gone... at least it is still in motion.

09-22-2010, 10:42 AM	#25
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Are those who think it will stick around talking about the Wallet or Virtual Card? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

09-22-2010, 10:54 AM	#26
OneWhoKnows Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: European Union Posts: 873	As I have all my money in the wallet and I'm actually getting it out there right at the moment through transfer to personal CC... Yeah, I'm confident I'll get everything out

09-22-2010, 02:44 PM	#30
Frisky Cash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: U.K Posts: 148	Next Poll is "how many ePass threads can you make in 1 month?" a) 100 b) 1000 c) more than the amount of $'s epass owes it's customers. __________________

09-22-2010, 02:46 PM	#31
CYF Coupon Guru Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 10,973	I voted No. I really doubt anyone is going to see the VV money. __________________ Webmaster Coupons Coupons and discounts for hosting, domains, SSL Certs, and more! AmeriNOC Coupons \| Certified Hosting Coupons \| Hosting Coupons \| Domain Name Coupons

09-23-2010, 11:27 PM	#32
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Anyone want to change their vote? It's sad news today, but to be honest I expected it. Build on money in your bank only. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70