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FreeXXX · 01-09-2003, 11:35 PM

http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030109/1624000702_1.html

Socks · 01-09-2003, 11:38 PM

whoah.

m0rph3us · 01-09-2003, 11:38 PM

holy shit.

FATPad · 01-09-2003, 11:39 PM

Damn...

Mr.Fiction · 01-09-2003, 11:40 PM

The company's iBill operations suffered a large loss of merchant customers after a new credit-card association rule took effect in mid-November, the CEO said.

A number of iBill's web merchants declined to pay a registration fee mandated by the new rule, resulting not only in reduced revenue from InterCept's portion of the registration fee but also lost transaction processing fees from the departed merchants, Mr. Collins said.

Theo · 01-09-2003, 11:40 PM

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pr0 · 01-09-2003, 11:40 PM

amazing

quiet · 01-09-2003, 11:40 PM

thanks for the link.

Quote:

Shares of InterCept Inc. (NasdaqNM:ICPT - News) fell sharply Thursday after the provider of electronic funds transfer services to banks bowed out of a scheduled presentation at an investor conference, then cut its 2002 earnings outlook.

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The company's iBill operations suffered a large loss of merchant customers after a new credit-card association rule took effect in mid-November, the CEO said.

PerfectionGirls · 01-09-2003, 11:41 PM

Yeah... Nice big, ass booth and set up at the show.. Maybe they should be spending there money gettng thier company under control.

m0rph3us · 01-09-2003, 11:41 PM

The company's iBill operations suffered a large loss of merchant customers after a new credit-card association rule took effect in mid-November, the CEO said

EscortBiz · 01-09-2003, 11:42 PM

It's all ok you have seen nothing yet, when I said on another thread that I feel bad for you guys who have lots of billing built up with them all I got is some fuckin idiots arguing.

Good luck guys

Wont be too long before some of the employees there will post requests for jobs here watch and see

FATPad · 01-09-2003, 11:42 PM

Like how they blame all the lost revenue on the new regulations.

Couldn't be losing any of the clients because they suck could they?

picindex · 01-09-2003, 11:44 PM

time to jump ship and start using another provider.....

quiet · 01-09-2003, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
It's all ok you have seen nothing yet, when I said on another thread that I feel bad for you guys who have lots of billing built up with them all I got is some fuckin idiots arguing.

Good luck guys

Wont be too long before some of the employees there will post requests for jobs here watch and see

if you have something solid, i would love to hear it. if you are positive of something, it would be useful to some of us...

EscortBiz · 01-09-2003, 11:47 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=ibill

read what I wrote days ago, but like I said many dont want to hear facts,

Solid??? Are you blind man

m0rph3us · 01-09-2003, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=ibill

read what I wrote days ago, but like I said many dont want to hear facts,

Solid??? Are you blind man

hmm your comments on the issue are still vague. care to expand?

quiet · 01-09-2003, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=ibill

read what I wrote days ago, but like I said many dont want to hear facts,

Solid??? Are you blind man

uh, okay. sure they look like they are going down. what i mean is if you had anything beyond just looking at things from the outside.

for a variety of reasons, i'm stuck with ibill regardless. i just hope they are around long enough to pay out my reserve once i've shut my sites down...

EscortBiz · 01-09-2003, 11:58 PM

I cant, one day you will understand why and no im not a disfuckteld employee lol

badnews4us · 01-10-2003, 12:12 AM

There's more coverage here:
http://money.cnn.com/services/ticker...3001.26808.htm
http://money.cnn.com/services/ticker...LINE000702.htm

Bad news. Too bad that this is happening. Epoch and CCBill should get ready for the rats. OMG!

Backov · 01-10-2003, 12:14 AM

Gotta love Karma.

Sucks to be anyone with rebills left in IBill, but now ya got your chance to bail.. The bell is tolling, if it's not heeded, well..

I'm sure you have other options than IBill for new signups quiet.. Can't imagine you couldn't get another billing account elsewhere.

Cheers,
Backov

quiet · 01-10-2003, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by badnews4us
There's more coverage here:
http://money.cnn.com/services/ticker...3001.26808.htm
http://money.cnn.com/services/ticker...LINE000702.htm

Bad news. Too bad that this is happening. Epoch and CCBill should get ready for the rats. OMG!

did you create that nick just to post those links lol?

FATPad · 01-10-2003, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
Gotta love Karma.

Sucks to be anyone with rebills left in IBill, but now ya got your chance to bail.. The bell is tolling, if it's not heeded, well..

I'm sure you have other options than IBill for new signups quiet.. Can't imagine you couldn't get another billing account elsewhere.

Cheers,
Backov

He's probably more worried about his rebills and his reserves. If he's leaving the business in less than a year, he's stuck with ibill no matter what.

Backov · 01-10-2003, 12:16 AM

I imagine quiet has great retention, but I also have trouble believing that most of his IBill rebills wouldn't have lapsed in Sept 2003. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

quiet · 01-10-2003, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
Gotta love Karma.

Sucks to be anyone with rebills left in IBill, but now ya got your chance to bail.. The bell is tolling, if it's not heeded, well..

I'm sure you have other options than IBill for new signups quiet.. Can't imagine you couldn't get another billing account elsewhere.

Cheers,
Backov

that's not the issue. i won't be pusing new signups to my own sites all that much longer. so moving for a couple months of signups won't help much. the real problem is 13000 rebills and the 7 month reserve = a shitload of money.

oh well

Backov · 01-10-2003, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

that's not the issue. i won't be pusing new signups to my own sites all that much longer. so moving for a couple months of signups won't help much. the real problem is 13000 rebills and the 7 month reserve = a shitload of money.

oh well

Ah I thought you were in til fall.

I still can't believe you're not selling. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

ColKurtz · 01-10-2003, 12:19 AM

I think part of the problem with them is they really don't want to be in adult, even though that is where probably 90% of their money comes from.

A lot of those articles is corporate bullshit lingo. People were already starting to leave them, and the whole registration fee thing made the decison easy for people who were thinking of leaving them.

Even though a lot of people will jump on the bandwagon to rip on them, them going down would hurt the industry and everyone would feel it somehow.

EscortBiz · 01-10-2003, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

that's not the issue. i won't be pusing new signups to my own sites all that much longer. so moving for a couple months of signups won't help much. the real problem is 13000 rebills and the 7 month reserve = a shitload of money.

oh well

well nothing is happening tomorrow for you to be worried about now

stocktrader23 · 01-10-2003, 12:20 AM

"The company's iBill operations suffered a large loss of merchant customers after a new credit-card association rule took effect in mid-November, the CEO said.

A number of iBill's web merchants declined to pay a registration fee mandated by the new rule, resulting not only in reduced revenue from InterCept's portion of the registration fee but also lost transaction processing fees from the departed merchants, Mr. Collins said."

Point number one, Ibill expected most webmasters to stay and pay the registration fee. They included their porting in their earnings. WTF are they doing making a profit on a registration fee paid by customers that have made them millions?

Point number two, they should have covered the entire registration fee for at least their reasonably profitable webmasters that have been with them for years. Now because of being greedy corporate scum they not only lost members but revenue from their rebills.

Point number 3, They just lost half of the investment money they had from investors. If these idiots can't pay the webmasters that have been making them money for years do you really think they will be able to with half of their investors money gone?

Point number 4, They are going down.

Point number 5, I would call you blind myself.

Point number 6, See 1-4.

Thats Just My

quiet · 01-10-2003, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov

Ah I thought you were in til fall.

I still can't believe you're not selling. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

will be here till fall, but i have to play out the majority of my rebills after i stop taking signs, then run everything a full month after the last rebill takes place... this takes me to around Oct with my current plan.

selling. i'll probably sell the content, but that's it

EscortBiz · 01-10-2003, 12:23 AM

"A number of iBill's web merchants declined to pay a registration fee mandated by the new rule, resulting not only in reduced revenue from InterCept's portion of the registration fee but also lost transaction processing fees from the departed merchants, Mr. Collins said."

Portion of the registration fee? Well we know what the third parties said about the fee

quiet · 01-10-2003, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
"The company's iBill operations suffered a large loss of merchant customers after a new credit-card association rule took effect in mid-November, the CEO said.

A number of iBill's web merchants declined to pay a registration fee mandated by the new rule, resulting not only in reduced revenue from InterCept's portion of the registration fee but also lost transaction processing fees from the departed merchants, Mr. Collins said."

Point number one, Ibill expected most webmasters to stay and pay the registration fee. They included their porting in their earnings. WTF are they doing making a profit on a registration fee paid by customers that have made them millions?

Point number two, they should have covered the entire registration fee for at least their reasonably profitable webmasters that have been with them for years. Now because of being greedy corporate scum they not only lost members but revenue from their rebills.

Point number 3, They just lost half of the investment money they had from investors. If these idiots can't pay the webmasters that have been making them money for years do you really think they will be able to with half of their investors money gone?

Point number 4, They are going down.

Point number 5, I would call you blind myself.

Point number 6, See 1-4.

Thats Just My

that directed at me? if so, point 7 - you're clueless as to my situation.

Oliver Klozov · 01-10-2003, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
The company's iBill operations suffered a large loss of merchant customers after a new credit-card association rule took effect in mid-November, the CEO said.

A number of iBill's web merchants declined to pay a registration fee mandated by the new rule, resulting not only in reduced revenue from InterCept's portion of the registration fee but also lost transaction processing fees from the departed merchants, Mr. Collins said.

Talk about horse shit!

Most webmasters left long before the Visa regulations, I know I did. Also Visa regulations took effect in late November, this guy is talking like it happened in the middle of 2002.

Another CEO spins a yarn to save his own ass and blame someone else.

Ibill is losing money because they have turned their backs on the very people that make them money.

"Preformance Pays" is Ibills new slogen

Mr Bender, Mr Collins how about some simple customer support? That is what would really pay in your case. Everyone wants to be treated as if they are important. Try to call your own support 800 line and see what sort of boneheads you have working for you. Ask some simple questions and see the sort of run around that we had to deal with.

All I can say is I wish I had shorted that stock.

EscortBiz · 01-10-2003, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver Klozov

Talk about horse shit!

Most webmasters left long before the Visa regulations, I know I did. Also Visa regulations took effect in late November, this guy is talking like it happened in the middle of 2002.

Another CEO spins a yarn to save his own ass and blame someone else.

Ibill is losing money because they have turned their backs on the very people that make them money.

"Preformance Pays" is Ibills new slogen

Mr Bender, Mr Collins how about some simple customer support? That is what would really pay in your case. Everyone wants to be treated as if they are important. Try to call your own support 800 line and see what sort of boneheads you have working for you. Ask some simple questions and see the sort of run around that we had to deal with.

All I can say is I wish I had shorted that stock.

Some hot chics in those vegas pics

stocktrader23 · 01-10-2003, 12:28 AM

By the way quiet,

I haven't been here to long. Did you share the reason you are getting out of the biz this year?

13,000 rebills wow.

7 month reserve.

How does the reserve work with these processors?

FlyingIguana · 01-10-2003, 12:29 AM

ibill should have eaten the damn fees if it was gonna make that much of a difference on earnings. i highly doubt thats the only reason their earnings forcasts are down.

stocktrader23 · 01-10-2003, 12:34 AM

Quiet,

No I wasn't directing that at you. Should have been more specific. Escort asked Solid if he was blind. He said their were only vague points mentioned. I was agreeing with Escort. Blind.

As for your situation, I read you have to let your plan run out. Oh yea and

A SHITLOAD OF MONEY!

Best of luck to you on that. I hope it works out.

Socks · 01-10-2003, 12:35 AM

Would a hostile offer by one of the other processors be possible? I don't know much about business on that level, but I'm thinking if ibill goes down all those rebills are gone. Also webmasters would probably really appreciate a change of ownership and a "white knight investor". The buyer would get a slew of new very thankful customers in a fire sale.. Maybe they have debt though..

Can anyone elaborate on why this would be a good/bad idea on the part of CCBill or another processor looking to take them on?

mpegposter · 01-10-2003, 12:36 AM

They lost those millions paying me to do some efficiency consulting. It took an extra 6 months because I had to hire interpreters to talk to some of their employees during interviews.

My conclusions were that they should hire more English-speaking personnel, answer their phones and emails, switch to unix, and pay on time.

mpegposter · 01-10-2003, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Socks
Would a hostile offer by one of the other processors be possible? I don't know much about business on that level, but I'm thinking if ibill goes down all those rebills are gone. Also webmasters would probably really appreciate a change of ownership and a "white knight investor". The buyer would get a slew of new very thankful customers in a fire sale.. Maybe they have debt though..

Can anyone elaborate on why this would be a good/bad idea on the part of CCBill or another processor looking to take them on?

None of the other processors can afford ibill. One of their investors probably could.

Oliver Klozov · 01-10-2003, 12:42 AM

An even better question.....

What marketing bonehead thought that giving away a new Corvette would help this sinking ship.

Anybody see my Ibill booth photo from the Vegas Show?
http://www.oliver-klozov.com/lasvega...s/DSCN2502.htm

Looked like Death Valley most of the time in the Ibill booth other than the few times webmasters showed up looking to collect their missing money.

pipp · 01-10-2003, 12:44 AM

Good to see that we where not the only ones that got it up the ass by visa. Synergi is a bitch :D

quiet · 01-10-2003, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver Klozov
An even better question.....

What marketing bonehead thought that giving away a new Corvette would help this sinking ship.

Anybody see my Ibill booth photo from the Vegas Show?
http://www.oliver-klozov.com/lasvega...s/DSCN2502.htm

Looked like Death Valley most of the time in the Ibill booth other than the few times webmasters showed up looking to collect their missing money.

exact same booth they had last year....

Socks · 01-10-2003, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mpegposter

None of the other processors can afford ibill. One of their investors probably could.

Even their investors would put together a team of guys to contribute to share the risk

FATPad · 01-10-2003, 12:48 AM

I feel sorry for that chick they made sit in that booth. hehe.

Hope she got a good "cannon fodder" bonus for doing that.

quiet · 01-10-2003, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
By the way quiet,

I haven't been here to long. Did you share the reason you are getting out of the biz this year?

13,000 rebills wow.

7 month reserve.

How does the reserve work with these processors?

i'm getting out cause i've made enough, and had enough. there are many other things i want to do (go back to uni, travel, write, snowboard, chill out, etc).

the reserve is a percentage that the processor holds back, and pays out 6 or 7 months from the pay period in which they the funds were originally earned.

prostock · 01-10-2003, 01:24 AM

quiet,

i am just wondering , hope ok to ask what site do you have , that is a great members count , just wondering

to bad to see you will be getting out !

stocktrader23 · 01-10-2003, 01:27 AM

What percentage is the reserve on the other processors or is it about the same on all of them. Crazy they need a reserve for 7 months with the large percentage they keep.

And I hope you saw my post that I wasn't calling you blind, lol.

Socks · 01-10-2003, 01:34 AM

Quiet, let me maintain the whole shit and I'll send you what we agree on, or deposit it into a bank account, on time, every time.

stocktrader23 · 01-10-2003, 01:39 AM

Socks, not so sure you could get it there on time every time unless you got enough in your pocket to cover 13,000 rebills. Doesn't seem you would be getting money from the processor on time every time. Thus, this topic.

DemonWolfe · 01-10-2003, 02:05 AM

I just got an email from Ibill asking me to switch my processing over to them.

Ha Ha Ha

Sorry to all the guys who *may* get screwed in this deal though. I've been bent over far too many times in this industry!

and no, despite what Kman might tell you I'm not gay.

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badnews4us Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1	There's more coverage here: http://money.cnn.com/services/ticker...3001.26808.htm http://money.cnn.com/services/ticker...LINE000702.htm Bad news. Too bad that this is happening. Epoch and CCBill should get ready for the rats. OMG!

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ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	I think part of the problem with them is they really don't want to be in adult, even though that is where probably 90% of their money comes from. A lot of those articles is corporate bullshit lingo. People were already starting to leave them, and the whole registration fee thing made the decison easy for people who were thinking of leaving them. Even though a lot of people will jump on the bandwagon to rip on them, them going down would hurt the industry and everyone would feel it somehow.

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FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	ibill should have eaten the damn fees if it was gonna make that much of a difference on earnings. i highly doubt thats the only reason their earnings forcasts are down.

01-10-2003, 12:34 AM	#36
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Quiet, No I wasn't directing that at you. Should have been more specific. Escort asked Solid if he was blind. He said their were only vague points mentioned. I was agreeing with Escort. Blind. As for your situation, I read you have to let your plan run out. Oh yea and A SHITLOAD OF MONEY! Best of luck to you on that. I hope it works out. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

01-10-2003, 12:35 AM	#37
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Would a hostile offer by one of the other processors be possible? I don't know much about business on that level, but I'm thinking if ibill goes down all those rebills are gone. Also webmasters would probably really appreciate a change of ownership and a "white knight investor". The buyer would get a slew of new very thankful customers in a fire sale.. Maybe they have debt though.. Can anyone elaborate on why this would be a good/bad idea on the part of CCBill or another processor looking to take them on?

01-10-2003, 12:36 AM	#38
mpegposter Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tri-State Posts: 483	They lost those millions paying me to do some efficiency consulting. It took an extra 6 months because I had to hire interpreters to talk to some of their employees during interviews. My conclusions were that they should hire more English-speaking personnel, answer their phones and emails, switch to unix, and pay on time. __________________ The voice of the Moral Minority. New Sponsor Converting Like Hell!

01-10-2003, 12:42 AM	#40
Oliver Klozov Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Diego, Ca. USA Posts: 629	An even better question..... What marketing bonehead thought that giving away a new Corvette would help this sinking ship. Anybody see my Ibill booth photo from the Vegas Show? http://www.oliver-klozov.com/lasvega...s/DSCN2502.htm Looked like Death Valley most of the time in the Ibill booth other than the few times webmasters showed up looking to collect their missing money. __________________ Babe-Bucks.com ICQ 895-80-702 oliversgirls at gmail.com

01-10-2003, 12:44 AM	#41
pipp Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Where the sun don't shine Posts: 1,185	Good to see that we where not the only ones that got it up the ass by visa. Synergi is a bitch :D

01-10-2003, 12:48 AM	#44
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	I feel sorry for that chick they made sit in that booth. hehe. Hope she got a good "cannon fodder" bonus for doing that. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

01-10-2003, 01:24 AM	#46
prostock On probation Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: not telling you , the exwife might find me Posts: 4,160	quiet, i am just wondering , hope ok to ask what site do you have , that is a great members count , just wondering to bad to see you will be getting out ! __________________ ICQ # :158519717

01-10-2003, 01:27 AM	#47
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	What percentage is the reserve on the other processors or is it about the same on all of them. Crazy they need a reserve for 7 months with the large percentage they keep. And I hope you saw my post that I wasn't calling you blind, lol. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

01-10-2003, 01:34 AM	#48
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Quiet, let me maintain the whole shit and I'll send you what we agree on, or deposit it into a bank account, on time, every time.

01-10-2003, 01:39 AM	#49
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Socks, not so sure you could get it there on time every time unless you got enough in your pocket to cover 13,000 rebills. Doesn't seem you would be getting money from the processor on time every time. Thus, this topic. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

01-10-2003, 02:05 AM	#50
DemonWolfe Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: World Traveler Posts: 261	I just got an email from Ibill asking me to switch my processing over to them. Ha Ha Ha Sorry to all the guys who may get screwed in this deal though. I've been bent over far too many times in this industry! and no, despite what Kman might tell you I'm not gay. __________________ Sorry, no signature today. Please come back tomorrow.