What's your opinion on NATS? - GoFuckYourself.com

Colette16000 · 09-28-2010, 01:41 AM

How much does NATS cost and how much does it matter to you if we use it??

I'm working on growing our affiliate program.

The affiliates we have are making awesome returns, but we want to attract more. Our processing is through CCbill and EPOCH.

We have stunning, exclusive content, Art-Nude, Solo, G/G, Hardcore and all of our models are gorgeous teens.

Thank you so much for any info!

Major (Tom) · 09-28-2010, 01:52 AM

I do not know what the rates are these days but nats is great.
ds

MrDeiz · 09-28-2010, 03:38 AM

with epass is gone nats is not that good for affiliates

stay with ccbill aff platform

i often hear such pov from program owners, but once they go with it - in most cases it doesn't work

Chosen · 09-28-2010, 03:42 AM

NATS is NATS

Davy · 09-28-2010, 03:49 AM

It's expensive.

MrDeiz · 09-28-2010, 03:51 AM

or go the same way like pimproll did: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=926650

i mean ask your current affiliates first if they would like to switch to nats.
here's one for 'no'

cardinalvices · 09-28-2010, 04:56 AM

Its $750 for setup + $150/m or more if you generate more than 300 transaction (that includes rebills and chargebacks) per month. So yeah, its quite expensive.
Its good to work with, but I think it suits the bigger companies. If you are under 2000 members you shouldn't consider it.

Jdoughs · 09-28-2010, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by daizzzy

or go the same way like pimproll did: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=926650

i mean ask your current affiliates first if they would like to switch to nats.
here's one for 'no'

Your opinion on this is invalid and totally biased, you would only agree to promote them more if they paid you to advertise, pretty fucked up.

scouser · 09-28-2010, 05:25 AM

much prefer ccbill. or at least ccbill payments, through nats. that is ideal, but not many sponsors do that.

MrDeiz · 09-28-2010, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Your opinion on this is invalid and totally biased, you would only agree to promote them more if they paid you to advertise, pretty fucked up.

lol, looks like i got a stalker. dude, consider promoting you shitty link exchange better than wasting time on me

for the record i was criticizing nats before they've bought ads for a number of serious nats minuses. so stfu cocksucker

jimmycooper · 09-28-2010, 05:49 AM

I vote for CCBILL

trannysphere · 09-28-2010, 06:07 AM

you guys have pretty content!!!

nats is good i'm starting to like v.4. good for webmaster and program.

BestXXXPorn · 09-28-2010, 06:16 AM

CCBill blows... worst interface for any affiliate system ever created...

NATs is superior in every way, IMO

signupdamnit · 09-28-2010, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

CCBill blows... worst interface for any affiliate system ever created...

NATs is superior in every way, IMO

The main pro is that you know you'll get paid.

iSpyCams · 09-28-2010, 06:52 AM

Daizzy has an axe to grind with NATS.

One thing to consider is NATS will give you more control over billers and cascades but you are going to pay at least 150 a month for it, more if you go over 300 sales a month. Plus they recommend a dedicated server.

To me its worth the money, but if you are bootstrapping from zero and 150 a month for affiliate tracking has the potential to push you into the red you probably can get what you need for free from CCBill or any other biller that has integrated afilliate tracking.

Wizzo · 09-28-2010, 06:56 AM

NATS is the best option out there today.

MrDeiz · 09-28-2010, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

The main pro is that you know you'll get paid.

does that really matter?

ppl aren't sick enough of unpaying failed nats programs

MrDeiz · 09-28-2010, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Daizzy has an axe to grind with NATS.

One thing to consider is NATS will give you more control over billers and cascades but you are going to pay at least 150 a month for it, more if you go over 300 sales a month. Plus they recommend a dedicated server.

To me its worth the money, but if you are bootstrapping from zero and 150 a month for affiliate tracking has the potential to push you into the red you probably can get what you need for free from CCBill or any other biller that has integrated afilliate tracking.

i have an issue with john on personal level
and my position on nats is almost the same as it was before that lame drama started by john. it's fact based. i'm speaking with affiliates and program owners of different size and type on daily basis, i have a ground for stuff i say

i have seen numerous attempts to get new affiliates by joining nats, all of them failed
nats is ok for programs depending on active marketing (included phony one) and op sells content on the first place, so standard features offered by ccbill is quite enough for him and affiliates looking to promote his great site

TMM_John · 09-28-2010, 07:08 AM

Just a friendly reminder that Daizzzy is a scammer, thief, and an extortionist whose opinion is solely based upon the fact that we would not pay him money. That's all.

charlie g · 09-28-2010, 07:16 AM

OH MY!!!

TMM_John · 09-28-2010, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Colette16000

How much does NATS cost and how much does it matter to you if we use it??

I'm working on growing our affiliate program.

The affiliates we have are making awesome returns, but we want to attract more. Our processing is through CCbill and EPOCH.

We have stunning, exclusive content, Art-Nude, Solo, G/G, Hardcore and all of our models are gorgeous teens.

Thank you so much for any info!

Your content is fantastic and you'd be much better served by having a fully featured affiliate program.

Unlike many software companies our rates are fully public & posted. https://www.toomuchmedia.com/pp_nats-pricing.htm

Also, unlike many, we do not require you to sign a contract or commitment to use NATS. It's a month to month commitment. If you decide it's not for you, you're welcome to cancel at any time. We don't lock you in for a year or longer as some people do.

What I would suggest is running NATS next to your CCBill program. It's not difficult to do, and will allow you to fully appreciate the differences between both platforms. You could also choose to run them both long term and offer affiliates the option to choose which method suits them best. Why not satisfy everyone?

I've actually seen your site prior to this post and I think with your content you're going to be around in this biz for quite some time. We'd be more than happy to work with you and I'd be glad to give you a bit of a discount on our up front fees to get you started. Feel free to get in touch with myself or Vlad if you have any other questions.

My ICQ is 5596373, AIM is JohnA1078, phone is 732-385-1536
Vlad (Sales) can be reached on ICQ at 452583619, AIM at TMMVlad, or the same telephone number.

Thanks for your consideration and I wish you luck whichever route you take.

Kenny B! · 09-28-2010, 07:38 AM

I don't know what client number they are up to but we've been using them since 1995 and love em.

TMM_John · 09-28-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cardinalvices

Its $750 for setup + $150/m or more if you generate more than 300 transaction (that includes rebills and chargebacks) per month. So yeah, its quite expensive.
Its good to work with, but I think it suits the bigger companies. If you are under 2000 members you shouldn't consider it.

Incorrect. That does not include rebills and chargebacks. Our pricing tiers are based upon new joins only.

TMM_John · 09-28-2010, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

The main pro is that you know you'll get paid.

And what happens if one day all you promote is CCBill programs, all of your income is dependent upon them, and they have an issue? Rather than lose a few % of your income because one sponsor goes out of business, you lose 100% of your income.

Putting all of your eggs in one basket (no matter what that basket is), is possibly the worst business move you can make. You should never be completely dependent upon another person or organization to stay in business.

Your risk should be spread around. You should be promoting programs on NATS, programs on CCBill, and programs on other platforms.

HomerSimpson · 09-28-2010, 09:43 AM

NATS is really cool, has plenty of useful stuff and users like to use it. It also allows you to use more than one processor (cascade billing), so if one fails it will try another, and this can add ~10% to the current revenue easily.

If anyone needs help implementing their design into NATS, feel free to contact me:
http://www.awmzone.com/services

MrDeiz · 09-28-2010, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John

Just a friendly reminder that Daizzzy is a scammer, thief, and an extortionist whose opinion is solely based upon the fact that we would not pay him money. That's all.

Just a friend reminder that John is lier and makes things up on people
nats sucks, john - lier

MrDeiz · 09-28-2010, 12:09 PM

if you'll have any kind of issue with tmm he will behave exactly the same way with u
so think twice with whom you are having biz

Colette16000 · 09-28-2010, 12:13 PM

Thanks for all the info! We're going to check it out :-)

09-28-2010, 01:41 AM	#1
Colette16000 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Malibu, California (La-La land) Posts: 41	What's your opinion on NATS? How much does NATS cost and how much does it matter to you if we use it?? I'm working on growing our affiliate program. The affiliates we have are making awesome returns, but we want to attract more. Our processing is through CCbill and EPOCH. We have stunning, exclusive content, Art-Nude, Solo, G/G, Hardcore and all of our models are gorgeous teens. Thank you so much for any info! __________________ Colette (aka Coco) www.x-art.com

09-28-2010, 01:52 AM	#2
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09-28-2010, 03:38 AM	#3
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09-28-2010, 06:52 AM	#15
iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	Daizzy has an axe to grind with NATS. One thing to consider is NATS will give you more control over billers and cascades but you are going to pay at least 150 a month for it, more if you go over 300 sales a month. Plus they recommend a dedicated server. To me its worth the money, but if you are bootstrapping from zero and 150 a month for affiliate tracking has the potential to push you into the red you probably can get what you need for free from CCBill or any other biller that has integrated afilliate tracking.

09-28-2010, 06:56 AM	#16
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09-28-2010, 12:13 PM	#28
Colette16000 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Malibu, California (La-La land) Posts: 41	Thanks for all the info! We're going to check it out :-) __________________ Colette (aka Coco) www.x-art.com