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Old 10-13-2010, 09:03 AM   #51
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what would they possibly have in common? CCBill is almost the opposite of what epass does. If you haven't noticed, they mail you checks every week. Worst case, if CCBill said "fuck it" and closed up their doors, many would be out two weeks worth of $$, not months or thousands upon thousands of stored amounts.

regardless of their relationship, I currently have no problem in trusting them
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Old 10-13-2010, 09:06 AM   #52
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what would they possibly have in common? CCBill is almost the opposite of what epass does. If you haven't noticed, they mail you checks every week. Worst case, if CCBill said "fuck it" and closed up their doors, many would be out two weeks worth of $$, not months or thousands upon thousands of stored amounts.

regardless of their relationship, I currently have no problem in trusting them
It would be the biggest hit to the industry in forever. You do realize all of the program owners processing through CCBill would lose their balls, right?
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Hell if you want to go after everyone who's been in a picture with Chris Mallick or as been seen talking to him then put me in that list Choker...





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Is it true Chris also used Rochards mustang in Middle Men?
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what would they possibly have in common? CCBill is almost the opposite of what epass does. If you haven't noticed, they mail you checks every week. Worst case, if CCBill said "fuck it" and closed up their doors, many would be out two weeks worth of $$, not months or thousands upon thousands of stored amounts.

regardless of their relationship, I currently have no problem in trusting them
smoking crack much?
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Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order
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Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order
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Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Nice reply. So your saying that the thousands of people with frozen money in epassporte are all idiots and deserve to lose everything?
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Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order
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Gfy idiocy at it's finest.
Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order
Its rare but I agree with 12clicks.
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From what I know ePassporte and CCBill have never had anything to do with ePassporte other than Chris and Ron know each other and the only way I know this is because I met them at the show in Amsterdam a few years back.
I tried years ago to get ePassporte to pick up CCBill as a client it never happened I do not know why but if CCBill had any interest in ePassporte they would surely have used ePassporte as a payout option.
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:18 AM   #65
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Nice reply. So your saying that the thousands of people with frozen money in epassporte are all idiots and deserve to lose everything?
People that were using it as a savings account deserve to lose all their money. They have always been barely one notch above completely incompetent since they opened their doors. Their entire operation from users perspective with regards to their money or support, hinged on whether or not they could get michael on ICQ which is insane at best, not to mention all the other crap like peoples accounts being hacked/compromised and money being drained and being told "too bad" and similar things.

Everyone knew they were the preferred method of choice for supporting illegal offshore gaming transactions. Everyone knew (or should) that a large % of people using epasse are cheating taxes. Finally, the bubble bursts and like always, just like each time an inept IPSP collapses or runs with the funds, everyone acts surprised and shocked and can't believe it even though they spent years waving a sign in front of your face that screamed "we're incompetent shit heads".

When you thrust your money into a dark web of offshore banking havens ran by pornographers for any time longer than it takes you to immediately withdraw it, you are an idiot. When you keep it there, you deserve to lose it.
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There's so much bullshit in this topic it's pathetic.

The friend of a person who robbed me gets treated like the person who robbed me...

I don't wanna hear nothing about no "keep business and friendship separate" shit when you people were sharing business addresses and giving each other parts in each others industry related movies and shit.

One company not integrating another company into their system means jack shit in this topic... don't try to use that as a "See? I'm not like my buddy" card. Especially with the ridiculous stats with one of those companies lately.
Thank you.

We now have another company to watch out for and avoid.
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Dragging ccbill into this mess... Please........

I have never used ccbill but I will tell you they are stand up company in my opinion.

Having had dinner a couple of times in the past with Ron and crew was great. You can in just a few minutes with ron that he is a good fellow.


Choker - I understand you want your money and so does everyone else - but I would say to you - on this thread you failed

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We have an expression here in New York City. Perhaps you have this same expression in Arizona (although with your low precipitation, maybe not):

"Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining."

So: "Hey Chris buddy! Need an office? A plane? Need CCBill's office addy for credibility for x,y, and z? No prob buddy! Want my limo driver? Hey, buddy, here ya go, anything you need "friend"!" Then: "I have no business with Chris."

un-huh. Get better friends Ron.

And explain to me why, in October, tho nothing has changed on my end (traffic, promotion, etc) my CCBill sales have been bobbing up and down like a stripper slurping Tommy Lee's cock? One day decent, next day shitty, etc, the entire month. Could it be because of your "friendships"?

LOL Okay - tin foil hats - but Ron C, you lay with down dogs you get up with fleas so don't blame the people wondering wtf. And get my account rocking. :D
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Those of you who lost money have no one to blame but yourselves.
Dragging CCbill into it is pathetic.
I think a few bannings to clear out the rabble and their idiot accusations are in order
You're right dragging ccbill into this mess is wrong but you can't say it's our fault for having our money frozen. How on earth can we control something that's out of our hands, trusting epass was our mistake in the end though.
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Nice reply. So your saying that the thousands of people with frozen money in epassporte are all idiots and deserve to lose everything?
deserve to lose everything? no.
however, pulling ccbill into it is the same mental midgetry that exposes you to loses like this.
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You guys got your blinders on? Who gave away free tickets for middle men on here.. .
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I dont think epass has ties to ccbill. proof would be ccbill payments via epass which never was available. But epass I do believe was spun off from paycom
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what would they possibly have in common? CCBill is almost the opposite of what epass does. If you haven't noticed, they mail you checks every week. Worst case, if CCBill said "fuck it" and closed up their doors, many would be out two weeks worth of $$, not months or thousands upon thousands of stored amounts.

regardless of their relationship, I currently have no problem in trusting them
CCBill charges up the ass and has a motherfucking jet, they're not going anywhere anytime soon...
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You guys got your blinders on? Who gave away free tickets for middle men on here.. .
The ties between them and the movie make me nervous. But everything I see suggests mainly a friendship between them and nothing more. The closest thing to show a business connection is the common address issue which is admittedly suspicious. But Ron has explained that. Either he's lying or is telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe him given his history though I question his taste in friends
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Mallick could learn something about how to be a fucking CEO and communicate with your customers from Ron.
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Damn Choker you think you would know better. Some people would have been banned for this not sure if you will be or not.

Your title insinuates that ccbill seems to be involved with epassporte.

I read the info on the site and it just shows a connection that Ron has with Chris in regards to middle men movie. It gives no information that ccbill is involved with epassporte in any way. It looks like (i haven't seen the movie to confirm it) that Ron may have been in the movie, who knows if he invested or not and who cares.

making an accusation and putting a "?" on the end of it doesn't make it ok. And the accusation is way off base, even that site gives no proof to even elude to there being involvement between ccbill and epass. Not even close. Just Ron and Chris being friends and some kind of way involved with a movie.
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The ties between them and the movie make me nervous. But everything I see suggests mainly a friendship between them and nothing more. The closest thing to show a business connection is the common address issue which is admittedly suspicious. But Ron has explained that. Either he's lying or is telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe him given his history though I question his taste in friends
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When two different businesses use the same address, it doesn't really make much sense to get all up in arms when people question their relationship. Welcome to reality.
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The ties between them and the movie make me nervous. But everything I see suggests mainly a friendship between them and nothing more. The closest thing to show a business connection is the common address issue which is admittedly suspicious. But Ron has explained that. Either he's lying or is telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe him given his history though I question his taste in friends
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Thank you, that site is not mine nor is it under my control. Forgive me for the thread, but I will continue to ask the hard questions that others are afraid to ask. It is only NATURAL that any and everyone that has a personal or business relationship of ANY TYPE with Chirs Mallick will be under the magnifying glass until as such time as everyone is paid what they are owed. This is not the same as a cc processor going under, this is MUCH MUCH bigger and not the same animal at all.
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the same people who ran epass also ran oxymoron.

if there is a connection with oxymoron it is related to epass as they are more or less the same thing.

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Damn Choker you think you would know better. Some people would have been banned for this not sure if you will be or not.

Your title insinuates that ccbill seems to be involved with epassporte.

I read the info on the site and it just shows a connection that Ron has with Chris in regards to middle men movie. It gives no information that ccbill is involved with epassporte in any way. It looks like (i haven't seen the movie to confirm it) that Ron may have been in the movie, who knows if he invested or not and who cares.

making an accusation and putting a "?" on the end of it doesn't make it ok. And the accusation is way off base, even that site gives no proof to even elude to there being involvement between ccbill and epass. Not even close. Just Ron and Chris being friends and some kind of way involved with a movie.
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Think before speaking publicly ...

It was nice of Ron C of CCBill to offer some response to your insinuations ...

Maybe, for reason of his pivotal role in the finance end of the adult industry, Ron thought it best to reassure the community rather to demand a retraction in lieu of a defamation response ....
Speaking in my own individual capacity, and not for our company, I would make damn sure of proof before I made insinuations, allegations or strongly unfavorable accusations against persons or businesses with creditably and substance.

No way this is to be construed as any approval of ePassporte's or Christopher Mallick's actions here at issue.
Furthermore, there is more at stake here than just "Board actions", 'nuff said, carry on.
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When two different businesses use the same address, it doesn't really make much sense to get all up in arms when people question their relationship. Welcome to reality.
the difference is that address was used for a stupid movie and it wasn't "two different businesses". It was Chris Mallick using ccbills address. It wasn't epassporte doing business with ccbill. Huge difference you people should be smart enough to see that but I guess not.

This thread is retarded.
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the difference is that address was used for a stupid movie and it wasn't "two different businesses". It was Chris Mallick using ccbills address. It wasn't epassporte doing business with ccbill. Huge difference you people should be smart enough to see that but I guess not.

This thread is retarded.
OK fine, accepting everything you say as 100% truth, can you really not see where someone would see 2 different businesses appearing to use one address and question it? If you can't see where someone might go "Hmm" and ask the question, then I just don't know what to say.
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Old 10-13-2010, 12:46 PM   #89
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It's like condemning anyone who is friends with Chris Mallick guilty by association
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Old 10-13-2010, 12:51 PM   #90
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next thing you know people are going to claim rogerv and karups lou were thanked in the credits for middle men for supplying content.
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Old 10-13-2010, 12:55 PM   #91
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Well I have not given up, and will continue to follow any and all leads. I posted this and will continue to post leads as people see these threads and do thier own research which is what is needed to get to the bottom of what is going on. Don't shoot the messenger.

Let's say for arguments sake to show you how this works, lets say that Ron rented that plane to CM for the shoot ok? He said he let him borrow so we now know there was no rent of the plane. But let's say for demonstration purposes he rented the plane to CM for 10k for a day? Follow me? Now if CM did use wallet funds to finance his movie then there you go, we would be able to account for 10k of missing wallet funds. Get where I'm going here?

yep - totally off the deep end.
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:00 PM   #92
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I've given up on the money in Epass... wrote it off just like I wrote off other big lose in the past.
wana bring it up again. we can.......
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:09 PM   #93
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And explain to me why, in October, tho nothing has changed on my end (traffic, promotion, etc) my CCBill sales have been bobbing up and down like a stripper slurping Tommy Lee's cock? One day decent, next day shitty, etc, the entire month. Could it be because of your "friendships"? :D
I thought I was the only one seeing days like this. 12 new one day... 0 the next. With the same amount of traffic!!!!! Fishy??????
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:13 PM   #94
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Is it true Chris also used Rochards mustang in Middle Men?
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:14 PM   #95
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It's like condemning anyone who is friends with Chris Mallick guilty by association
People are usually very much like the guys they hang out with.
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:16 PM   #96
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People are usually very much like the guys they hang out with.
does that count for hanging out on GFY?
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:18 PM   #97
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Btw the guys who are giving Choker shit in this thread are the same poeple who gave people shit for predicting Epass would fail. And look at it now.

You should be thanking Choker for asking questions and looking out for you.
Who laughs last?
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