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Old 10-24-2010, 05:36 PM   #51
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Woo-dee-fucking-doo. Ask anyone owning a profitable business in adult about their schedules. I bet they don't "sleep in ever day". And if they do, that's because they have employees who run the show and they've put in their own sweat and blood @ 80 hrs/week for a few years.

That guy is an example of someone who was surfing porn in 2002, found "webmasters" link, started submitting galleries and got lucky. He was never meant to run a business.

Fairy tale ended. Back to the grind, princess.

Though with that said, I know several people who do fuck all and make 6 figures from weird content they shot 5 years ago. Some people are luckier than others I suppose.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:37 PM   #52
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:15 PM   #53
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The person who made that thread on AskDamageX was me. About the sleeping in thing, sleeping in doesn't mean that I don't work 12+ hrs a day. My job wasn't time-sensitive so there were times I slept during the day and stayed up all night.

I wasn't lazy working for myself, there were many days I worked more than twelve hours, but it's a huge difference working for myself versus working for another person. I was usually in front of my pc from the time that I woke up till the time I slept. I was still able to sleep in though because I just stayed home all day and had no other obligations/social life. I would eat all my meals in front of my pc and I always home working, so sleeping in definitely had no affect on my work.

I enjoyed working for myself and I WASN'T tired after pulling in long hours, but working for someone else is extremely tiring. Probably because I have less freedom and because I hate being surrounded by co-workers. I sit in a cubicle and there are people all around me, some that I don't get along with. It is the combination of working to make someone else rich, the lack of control and being around "people" that is making working 40 hrs a week excruciatingly long. Dealing with people makes me tired and rises my stress-level. Especially people that I strongly dislike. I can easily work 60 hrs a week from home for myself and still have energy to spare. I am not a lazy person. It would not have been possible for me to stay self-employed for 7 years if I was lazy.

I always got my sleep in but I made sure that I was on the pc from the moment I woke up till the time I went to bed. I was never a sociable person so instead of doing things that others would do such as go out etc, I would use that time to sleep. That doesn't mean I wasn't working 10+ hrs a day.

And the thing about going to the beach, yes I would do that but then work at night and sleep at 3 am.

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Old 10-24-2010, 09:24 PM   #54
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Office jobs are not so bad. If you work for with a good team, believe in the product and work out a good salary that provides bonuses or profit sharing. Also, it's good to broaden your social network and perhaps start slamming a chick at the office. Sometimes I miss the 9-5. But traveling the world working my own hours still kicks ass
I was never a sociable person. And btw, everyone assumed that the topic starter was a guy. I'm actually a female. And btw, there is are no hot guys at the office for me to "slam". Maybe I would if there was someone eligible, it would make the day go by faster but there really isn't. Work is just work.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:28 PM   #55
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this guy wasn't working really hard for himself in the first place, therefore likely why he is in the position he is in now.
That's not really true actually. I used to work extremely hard. As I said earlier, I was on the pc from the time I woke up till the time I slept. Not all of it work to be sure but I worked HARD. It took me a long time to even figure out how to make money and I never gave up and I had a lot of perseverance and a lot of heart.

My only guilty pleasure was sleeping in. So what if I slept 9-10 hrs a day? I still busted my ass working from the time I woke up till the time I slept. All I did was sleep and work, I barely even left my house to be honest.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:33 PM   #56
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I'm sure the guy put in his time, just like any of us... you really think he spent 2 hours per day working, and then the rest of the time he was goofing around on the beach? and then decided to get a real 40 hour per week job, instead of getting his shit together? Just doesn't add up for some reason, if someone is lazy, getting a real job is a last thing they would do...
I didn't get my shit together in time because I mainly submitted galleries and we all know how that's doing. I started doing blogs too, trying to build up a big network but by that time my finances were in serious trouble so I had to get a job. I had to get a job in order to keep a roof over my head and in order to eat since there was no money left. Plus back taxes too.

I didn't spend all my time goofing off at the beach, jeez. There were a few days during the summer that I went to the beach and it was nice and that's all I was referring to. Doesn't mean I didn't go home and work all night...
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:35 PM   #57
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About the sleeping in thing, sleeping in doesn't mean that I don't work 12+ hrs a day.
I doubt you were putting 12+ hours of work a day in the last few months. It would be next to impossible to only make $3k a month working that much.

Unless you were mikesinner's sister.
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I remember coming home from a 6-6 12 hour shift and barely having enough energy to work on my sites. Somehow I did it though. I quit my job after I was able to make enough to live on. That was about 10 years ago.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:36 PM   #59
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good luck bausch plenty of people have just dropped off quietly. tons of sites sold, stopped updating or just left for dead. you are one among thousands, you just wrote about it.
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good luck bausch plenty of people have just dropped off quietly. tons of sites sold, stopped updating or just left for dead. you are one among thousands, you just wrote about it.
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sounds like me totally... my webmaster days were alot more flexible and I worked 2-3x harder, I feel like I live in a trap now.. making someone else more money and no free time to be building and marketing for myself.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:38 PM   #62
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it's not so much what he used to make money, it is his work ethic or lack of. He is talking about 40 hours like it is this incredible amount of hours to work now with a "full time" job.
There is a huge difference between working 80 hrs a week for yourself and working 40 hours a week in a cubicle making someone else rich. Psychologically it's a huge difference and it's mentally draining (for me at least) to work for someone else. I don't get along with one of my co-workers and it drains me. 40 hours seems like an eternity because I'm constantly miserable at work. If I'm working for myself and I'm making good money then I would truly enjoy it and I would feel passionate about what I'm doing, even if I was working 80 hrs a week and that's the truth. How am I supposed to feel energized about working 40 hrs a week for someone else plus the commute too? It's mainly dealing with people and having to interact with them that is draining the life out of me, I simply do not like it at all.

I have to admit that I am thankful for having found a job even though I complain so much. The recession is tough and it wasn't east finding that job and I am glad I have it (even though I complain). I know that if I didn't have that job things would be much worse. So I'm glad they gave me a chance.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:41 PM   #63
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I doubt you were putting 12+ hours of work a day in the last few months. It would be next to impossible to only make $3k a month working that much.

Unless you were mikesinner's sister.
During the last few months I got depressed because income was getting worse and to be honest, during the last few months I was looking for a job. I should have quit gallery submitting and started making hundreds of blogs etc. I did work during the last few months but getting sign ups became the equivalent of finding a needle in a hay stack or pulling teeth...
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sounds like me totally... my webmaster days were alot more flexible and I worked 2-3x harder, I feel like I live in a trap now.. making someone else more money and no free time to be building and marketing for myself.
Didn't you use to have a big tgp? What kind of job do you have now?
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I remember coming home from a 6-6 12 hour shift and barely having enough energy to work on my sites. Somehow I did it though. I quit my job after I was able to make enough to live on. That was about 10 years ago.
Yes, this was me also 10 years ago, when I first started. Back then I worked 7-4:30pm at a f/t job and then would come home and stay up until midnight or even later trying to figure out how to make money online and submitting freesites. I was in my 20's back then. Now I'm in my 30's and I feel physically weaker; I'm more tired. And in a way I feel like life just sucked out the spirit or energy out of me (that I had back then). I just don't have that enthusiasm anymore and I don't know if I ever will have it again.
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Didn't you use to have a big tgp? What kind of job do you have now?
I work at a landrover/jaguar dealership.. E-marketing manager.. selling cars online, seo for our sites, adding cars online, writing descriptions, dealing with customers, building traffic. etc etc.. all new stuff to our dealership which I am doing an awesome job at, but if I was doing this for myself I'd be making 10x more.
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join a gym. you're stressing yourself with these thoughts and it does you no good. physical activity is great stress reliever.
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freedom = rich
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I make good money but I feel like a slave.
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I work at a landrover/jaguar dealership.. E-marketing manager.. selling cars online, seo for our sites, adding cars online, writing descriptions, dealing with customers, building traffic. etc etc.. all new stuff to our dealership which I am doing an awesome job at, but if I was doing this for myself I'd be making 10x more.
Are you serious? I am also doing something VERY similar but I don't really want to write about it on the boards. VERY similar.... lol Except for a big agency and it's not one dealership but many. I am doing an awesome job too, or so they tell me. We do a lot of directory submissions and google/bing/yahoo directories and article writing etc. A lot of linkbuilding, and it comes very naturally to me.

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This was posted on another board and I know we're not supposed to link to other boards, so I figured I'd just paste the post here for some motivation. I've been a full timer for over 10 years now and is scares the shit outta me thinking that this eventually could be me in the future.
So how are your sales Slick? By how much have they decreased?
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join a gym. you're stressing yourself with these thoughts and it does you no good. physical activity is great stress reliever.
This is actually good advice and I have thought about jogging after work, to relieve stress and tension and to increase my endorphins and make me feel a little better. Increase my energy levels too so I can work on damn sites again.
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I knew a guy (friend of a friend) in a similar situation. Went from managing an investment fund worth mid 8 figures to working a day job for $60k a year and facing impending bankruptcy. 3 weeks ago he jumped off the balcony of his high rise condo 27 floors up. Crazy times.
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