michal

its nice to see program owner decide to shut down not giving a fuck about business
of others

you decide to cancel rebills ... nice..
i have members rebilling over the years .. you just cut my income


what about videosz and the rest of your business?
are you going to shut it down one day too? not getting any care of your
partners

michal

most of my active members signed up several years ago

nice you can just cancel them

you cant solve my issue with the missing signups for half a year
I UNDERSTAND NOW YOU WERE JUST GIVING ME BULLSHIT EXCUSES

you can leave it for your kids man

this is what i call SERIOUS BUSINESS ATTITUDE

i spent shitload of time trying to contact you Clement


THANK YOU

michal

i really didnt want to put all this shit into public

but you're not giving me any choice acting like this
giving me bullshit excuses for several months and shutting down after

so i want my payment now and i dont want any business with you

combined payment for the missing signups (which you confirmed you had all data
and you were going to import it for several months which you havent done so yet)
payment for all signups and rebills which you havent done yet

and some kind of COMPENSATION for rebills which YOU DECIDE TO CANCEL
im sure my members would rebill over and over

michal

its nice you're going to focus on videosz.com / ztod.com / thirdmovies.com and blackicepass.com running

please warn your PARTNERS when you're going to CUT OFF their rebills too

WHAT A JOKE


you know what
you dont own me much

but the way you treat me and the rest of your partners
who really made you rich in your previous steps..

you will loose way much more
its so fucking hard to get back good reputation after acting like you
treated me and the rest

people can search for "deluxepass" on gfy and see

Brad Mitchell

That's awesome! I guess it was a good run for ya with them

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michal

was a good run for us too

TOTAL 22230 44858 815 $0 $799640


ended up trying to fix payment issue for half a year

michal

acting like this can cause serious problems

you know, Clement, i kept keeping it between us
but after i find out you gave me bullshit excuses i want it to be public

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DlxClem

Michal,
You made a ton of money with deluxepass, and you are claiming signups that didn't get counted last year, I talked to your partner that you didn't pay and he asked me to put the account in hold, then I paid you once I opened your acct again.

As much as it sucks, DeluxePass has to be closed because there isn't a lot left, that's another reason why we're shutting it down, because DeluxePass relied on webmasters for updates and new sites.

I didn't get any icq message and I was moving when a couple of guys sent me the link to the thread.

Once again, we'll pay what is owed and all of the outstanding payments to all of the webmasters, I can't do more than that. I just can't keep the site up and lose money with DeluxePass, everything has a beginning and everything has an end.

If you have any questions, email me.

michal

you didnt get my emails too?

do you remember the actual problem we have discussed this summer
you can say whatever about my EX partner. we have had a deal you fix
my issue by Sept 15th you havent done so

i have sent you emails and tons of icq msgs after

no response

people sent you link to my thread.. you knew that you had to solve my
issue.. but you havent contacted me before i made these aggressive shit

you told me you're moving to some other hosting
and now you decided to close

how nice of you

i told you i didnt want to get this shit into public


but what should i do after you kept telling me you would solve it for several
months and later you just ignore me and now i find out you decided to shut
it down


nice one

keep it up


if you cant keep it profitable for you - SELL it
im sure someone will find it a good deal


this is a huge network making nice number of signups combined im sure

michal

you know your mistake Clement

its a pity i needed to write everything in this thread to get your response
if you dont have time to answer or fix your affiliate problems hire support team

why should i wait half a year to get my issue solved?

michal

this is a good example how people can loose their reputation ignoring their affiliates=(

i understand your business is way much bigger compared to mine
but you acted very unprofessional which made me write all this crap

i gave you enough time to solve my issue, and dont tell me about my ex-partner
he didnt have any power on the site after Aug 8th
you can contact him and ask

you also told me everything would be solved on or before Sept 15th
which you havent followed and i had complete ignore after Sept 15th until today

so its bullshit excuse once again
face it

michal

i had respect for you Clement

but time passes and everything changes
you fall in my eyes as a man and businessman

no matter how big your partner are you should have a respect for your partner
looks like you forgot how to run a good business

such attitude causes problems and you get it with me
because im FUCKING tired getting paid

my case is not the first
simple search on GFY for DeluxePass

and you see people have problems getting paid
guess you didnt care about their problems too

who will send you traffic soon. huh?


i contacted you in June first

you said my issue would be resolved on or before Sept 15th
i gave you time to resolve it and you havent done so

i posted thread on GFY
you confirmed you got link from the people who posted in the thread
you havent contacted me


i dont fucking care about your move
i have enough time to care about you man


sorry i needed to post all that crap


im serious webmaster

here's the prove
TOTAL 22230 44858 815 $0 $799640

he paid us 800k
means we made the same or even more Clement over the years

i feel you treated me like SH*T in this situation
so here you get the same treatment from me

ENJOY

i wait for you in icq to get my issue resolved ASAP

Mutt

good riddance to bad rubbish - DeluxePass and AdultBouncer from which it developed were as much built on content theft as any of the big porn tube sites and Videosz has profited as much as anybody from illegal tube sites with their 'premium' white labels.

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michal

should i order some voodoo black magic to make you contact me Clement?

michal

we had enough talks between June and end of august
i spent shitload of time on this matter

and actually if someone told me 3 years ago it would happen
i wont beleive it

i enjoyed adult when i first started in 1998
it was fun

now its pain to get what you earn

michal

i confirmed you got the money for our signups using test signups

you said you have all data and you would import it. it didnt happen.
i told you i would agree on getting paid $30 pps if you cant import this data.

you told me my issue would get solved by Sept 15th
i gave you the time you asked me.

you just dissapear. you cause me time and nerves loose.
you didnt care about me. i dont care about you. here how it works.

dont tell me bullshit about my ex-partner. i dont want to hear such shit.
you didnt follow your words. here's the result.

michal

i would get you in the court if i was in US

michal

are you consulting with your lawyers already?

amateurcanada

agreed.

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michal

the only reason i posted all this crap is complete ignorance from Clements side

if he wanted to solve it in private it would never happen
he told me multiple times - busy with the move, blah blah

the last date was Sept 15th
i got complete ignorance after this date

this thread shows several people sent him this thread but he still didnt contact me

you're moving since beginning of august
how long more should i wait for you huh?

you should have contacted me Sept 15th like you said

you should have contacted me after people sent you
this thread


you didnt care about people who made you GOOD money
here's the result

michal

search for DeluxePass or "deluxe pass" on GFY and you will find several cases with
people getting problems with getting paid

and only after they came here and start looking for Clement they got their payment
i did it

and i want to solve everything in calm manner

but it didnt work
so here you go

even after this thread Clement is trying to find some bullshit excuse
instead of coming to my icq and getting this issue closed

i would be happy to post when its solved

michal

this case also shows how people care about their projects

deluxepass is the eldest .. Clement doesnt make much with it
so he gets top notch support for his new projects

and he doesnt care about webmasters who have started with him
and really made him money which he invested in his new projects

i think its global tendency and its really disappoiting

i get such comparacy on my mind "when kids grow up and forget their parents"


we started together i made you nice income
you grow to the next level
and you forget about me like the rest of deluxepass webmasters

icymelon

seriously that makes no sense at all. alexa rank 26,000. I'm pretty sure there is a way to operate it profitably.

Here is a suggestion. turn it into a legal tube. 30 second preview clips. I believe they own licenses on a few thousand films. then upsell 19.95 month for premium access. I would go as far to say with that alexa rank I could get the thing down to under 1k hosting costs month. and just pass the affiliate links through and still give a 50/50 split.

Pretty simple. But I guess its easier to stop paying affiliates and recoup your loses over time. its really unbelievable.

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ilbb

that sucks, sorry to hear that

michal

sure i understand its a loss for everyone also for Clement

i also understand the system how DeluxePass organised now is very old
and hard to operate so Clement decided to get rid of it because he is
making much more $$$ with his newer projects (so he just dont care about it
anymore)

but affiliates should understand if someone acts like this once
it can happen someday with newer projects also

so be warned

i can even help to convert the system LoL
i have enough experience and i have a professional team running serious
mainstream projects

this case is a total joke and could be solved without this stupid thread
if someone would be paying more attention to such a small partner like me

Kelvin

Dude michal, you sound like an idiot. Repeating yourself over and over again isn't going to help your situation. Just making yourself sound like a complete moron.

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michal

imagine yourself in my situation
i spent half a year trying to get my small issue solved

no luck
i wanted all information to be in one place

there were too many problems and i should have prepaired "the paper"
i havent done so

my bad
im done actually

thanks for pointing me out
there will be no repeats anymore

Kelvin

Making post after post is making you look bad. Its not helping your position.
Sometimes life isn't fair.

that is all...

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michal

actually i agree with you Kevin
i already thanked you

maybe this thread will make Clement think twice not just about my issue
but also about his decision to close DeluxePass

this project is a good toy and someone might play it well and make good $$$
or he can convert the system himself. hosting is damn cheap nowadays
if he was able to make money back in the days someone can make even more
with it now

surely its not the best idea to store multiple copies of the same content
all over the place

deluxepass can be like videosz but with multiple tours (sites) linking to the
videos stored in one place

it would be much more easier to operate if done so imho
and will get advantages compared to videosz because people make tons of
"exclusive" tours (sites)

i remember i offered Clement to make a niche tour for videosz back in 2005
i even had design and content cut but it didnt had a go from the "system"

it surely can improve ratios for webmasters sending traffic to "their own" sites
compared to everyone sending it to one or several sites

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Convert rocks !

Som

thanks Clement for this shit!
i want rebills! A bargain is a bargain! Fuckin biz, a lot of clowns!

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holy fuck 200M out to webmasters...way to go man

best wishes on the other stuff

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TinyOak

any feedbacks with adult-empire ?

michal

adult-empire is ok so far.. nothing spectacular though
deluxepass was definitely higher level..

magicmike

Why not spam links, clearly webmasters are upset with a program that gives a few days notice they are closing and turning of rebills.

fuck it

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should I stop promoting videosz?

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Odysseus

Why videosz?
Same owner?

TinyOak

No worries about VideosZ, i think

papill0n

papill0n

its the same people donkey

michal

Clem, i didnt understand what kind of partner you were talking about when
i first read it because i slept 3 hours in 2 days sorry i misunderstood you.

I understand it now. When i told you lost my respect etc. Actually i acted
like you. When i first contacted you i told you i lost my old icq pass and i
cant recover it via email cuz i regged this email and icq back in '97 i think

you didnt tell me anything about any debts to my partners right?
i surely will pay them after you give me their contacts and i will give
them bonus for the wait for sure. i have had real good relations with
all partners which i've been paying directly. so im sure they will understand
my situation after i explain it

if you told me about this problems when i contacted you i would solve it
asap trust me so after i get their contacts i talk to them and make instant
payouts (paxum or anything like this)

please provide this information

You are right Clem

i made ton with you but you know you made even more on our traffic
i know it because i have experience running adult affiliate program
and i know how it works

but the best thing we both enjoyed it
there was no need to ask people pay, run after them etc
because you had time and were willing to help

your main problem you didnt hire good support cuz you couldnt handle it
yourself anymore. i understand it. it was like this some time now already
you grew up and you needed people to help you out which you didnt find

i still have a big respect for you even now i remember what you done for me
and how much i learned from you because you were one of persons whom i
learned from by looking at your projects which had big success

If this is the only reason why you're shutting down (lack of traffic and updates) i know Deluxepass can get a new 2nd life and i can help you with it

I know how it works i know what to change and how to improve it. I know
everything - dvd ripping, design, programming, i have admin experience i
learned it all and i have a team of TRUE professionals (i can show you our
recent mainstream projects and its killing man)

i can give you ideas how to make DeluxePass the best avs system of the
current time (because there's no true competitors on the market) making you
shitload of money

people think avs business is dead i know its not because i have experience
of growing adult program with dvd content which was ripped number of times
already and it has good success at the moment

i know how to generate traffic
i know how to make partners happy

i know the business can still be like it was before when everyone was happy and willing to help i want to get this times back!!

Ask yourself are you happy now as you were happy when you were growing
DeluxePass? Ask yourself and answer FRANKLY. You are much richer now but
are you more happily now?

i can give you all ideas for free and we can discuss possible partnership
what if i help you grow DeluxePass bigger compared to Videosz and the rest of your projects? i know i can do it for a fact and this is not just words

i think we should talk

ok i emailed you yesterday please check it

johnuk

Me too Duke, made alot of money with DP. I think DP was the jumping off point for alot of todays sites.

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Great numbers Robbie! According to the DP payout page I did $473,095 over the years, I stopped promoting a couple of years ago but I always wanted to reach half a mil lol

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TinyOak

I know... but it seems to be ok no ?

michal

i've followed your instructions
sent you an email Oct 21th (48+ hours ago)

still no response

michal

too busy to contact me.. nothing changes=(

drriley

I'd like to know why this is announced in a forum -- where it can easily get lost among the many non-relevant messages -- before affiliates were given the courtesy of an email, or even an announcement on the Deluxe Pass website?