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Old 10-29-2010, 04:45 PM   #51
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:53 PM   #52
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I am surprised that no one has put all of Alphasky's forum posts into a "how to make money online" ebook and sold it on clickbank yet.


Wrong board for these kinds of questions.. better off searching google and going through a number of tutorials/articles/forums and then experiement to arrive at the best system that works for you and your sites.
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honest question,

if buying backlinks is bad, then can't your competition buy about a million shitty backlinks for your site and fubar it in the serps?
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:35 PM   #54
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honest question,

if buying backlinks is bad, then can't your competition buy about a million shitty backlinks for your site and fubar it in the serps?
Yes! Why do you think people are buying all these backlinks? It's to buy links to their competition and get them on page 10 in Google!!
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Yes! Why do you think people are buying all these backlinks? It's to buy links to their competition and get them on page 10 in Google!!
I hope you're joking. It's pretty damn hard to mess up backlinks enough to get an established site go down that much. In fact, I'd bet you money you couldn't with just backlinks.


And to the OP, backlinks help. There are a variety of ways, some are better than others. Natural is obviously the best but there are ways to simulate that perfect with Hamiltonian paths
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honest question,

if buying backlinks is bad, then can't your competition buy about a million shitty backlinks for your site and fubar it in the serps?
You can get another site banned. People argue about this point all the time. It can be done. If the site is new, its quite easy to make it go away for 6 months or so. If its older, established and has a ton of great backlinks, it might not be possible or at best, it will just take a temporary dip i the SERPs depending on how crazy you get with it.

You don't need to buy links. There are plenty of tools and bots are easy to make build links.

If you were "buying" links, it would typically come from well established sites, so it would be very difficult to harm another site like that and the net result would be that you just gave them a bump in the SERPs, not the other way around.
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You can get another site banned. People argue about this point all the time. It can be done. If the site is new, its quite easy to make it go away for 6 months or so. If its older, established and has a ton of great backlinks, it might not be possible or at best, it will just take a temporary dip i the SERPs depending on how crazy you get with it.

You don't need to buy links. There are plenty of tools and bots are easy to make build links.

If you were "buying" links, it would typically come from well established sites, so it would be very difficult to harm another site like that and the net result would be that you just gave them a bump in the SERPs, not the other way around.
Partially true. Just to give you an idea of how hard it is for an established site that has been around for a while, it'd take 100,000 malicious backlinks a day to take it down in the SERPs anywhere.
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so the answer to whether or not a lot of backlinks is good or bad is.....

it depends?

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Old 10-30-2010, 08:17 PM   #61
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That is so very fucking wrong. A load of links from shitty "link pages" as you describe is going to do no one any good. The object of link building is not to just get any link from any page.

Getting links from the sort of page you describe is demonstrably BAD for your SERPS.

You offering dangerous advice and posting like you know what you are talking about is my problem.

So I am explaining to them you are talking utter shit.

Still not seen the screen grab with your nonblog sending traffic at 1:100, more lies Gary? Shame on you.
After reading some of this garbage I state, stop trolling my posts.

Youre antagonising me & ruining any business options I have which is harrassment!

Any backlins from either paid or hardlink trades are good for pr rating, also any traffic can be better than hearing you whine on in GFY.

Obviously, Im not talking utter shit & you are, as already said, trolling my post.

You fucking moron, I dont need to show a screen grab... I can show affiliates if they are interested in working for us. You really are a twat
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After reading some of this garbage I state, stop trolling my posts.
I state no.

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Youre antagonising me & ruining any business options I have which is harrassment!
Oh Gary, stop being such a crybaby. You have no "business options".

If you stop posting lies as facts, I will stop posting correcting those mistakes. Deal? Very simple Gary.

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That is not true. Very not true.

It depends on the source, the placement, the authority of the site and the frequency that the links go up. If you suddenly get 1000s of links from shit link farms you get penalised or even sandboxed.

You really should stop posting lies, people that don't know any better might think you are right and you you could knock their site off google.

MOre reading that proves you are wrong:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3467665.htm

http://www.loriswebs.com/backlinks-to-avoid.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/seo-arti...g-1948924.html

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Obviously, Im not talking utter shit & you are, as already said, trolling my post.
Anyone in this industry knows you are lying Gary. You probably mean well in this case and aren't trying to deliberately deceive people like with your lies about your conversion. You just don't know any better. Read the links above and try and learn something.

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You fucking moron, I dont need to show a screen grab... I can show affiliates if they are interested in working for us. You really are a twat
You have more potential affiliates reading your posts here than anywhere else Gary. You stated your blog that isn't a blog converts at 1:100. I called you on it. You refuse to post a simple 2 second grab to prove me a liar.

You have refused 3 times.

You are a liar and people I know don't do business with liars.

So, Gary, you are ruining your own business here, I just highlight that.

Gary, we all know you don't convert at 1:100, you should just have admitted you were exagerating. Now, everyone can see you are a nasty little liar trying to get affiliates via deception and bullshit.

Why would anyone do business with you? Finish this sentence. "People should send me their traffic despite it being obvious I lied about my conversion because...:

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the less backlinks the better imho.
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I state no.



Oh Gary, stop being such a crybaby. You have no "business options".

If you stop posting lies as facts, I will stop posting correcting those mistakes. Deal? Very simple Gary.



That is not true. Very not true.

It depends on the source, the placement, the authority of the site and the frequency that the links go up. If you suddenly get 1000s of links from shit link farms you get penalised or even sandboxed.

You really should stop posting lies, people that don't know any better might think you are right and you you could knock their site off google.

MOre reading that proves you are wrong:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3467665.htm

http://www.loriswebs.com/backlinks-to-avoid.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/seo-arti...g-1948924.html



Anyone in this industry knows you are lying Gary. You probably mean well in this case and aren't trying to deliberately deceive people like with your lies about your conversion. You just don't know any better. Read the links above and try and learn something.



You have more potential affiliates reading your posts here than anywhere else Gary. You stated your blog that isn't a blog converts at 1:100. I called you on it. You refuse to post a simple 2 second grab to prove me a liar.

You have refused 3 times.

You are a liar and people I know don't do business with liars.

So, Gary, you are ruining your own business here, I just highlight that.

Gary, we all know you don't convert at 1:100, you should just have admitted you were exagerating. Now, everyone can see you are a nasty little liar trying to get affiliates via deception and bullshit.

Why would anyone do business with you? Finish this sentence. "People should send me their traffic despite it being obvious I lied about my conversion because...:

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Oh man, even I got irritated of all the Gary
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The strange thing with backlinks, is that you can have 400 backlinks, but only 3 (with luck) will show in google when you use the backlink checker.

Strange.

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You can get another site banned. People argue about this point all the time. It can be done. If the site is new, its quite easy to make it go away for 6 months or so. If its older, established and has a ton of great backlinks, it might not be possible or at best, it will just take a temporary dip i the SERPs depending on how crazy you get with it.

You don't need to buy links. There are plenty of tools and bots are easy to make build links.

If you were "buying" links, it would typically come from well established sites, so it would be very difficult to harm another site like that and the net result would be that you just gave them a bump in the SERPs, not the other way around.
If it goes away for "6 months or so" then it isn't banned it's "sandboxed" and the sandbox is easy to get out of.

You adult retards need to learn a lot of lessons from mainstream.
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If it goes away for "6 months or so" then it isn't banned it's "sandboxed" and the sandbox is easy to get out of.

You adult retards need to learn a lot of lessons from mainstream.
let's see you rank for some competitive adult terms, tough guy.
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