Not a conspiracy theorist, but this is too much of a coincidence !

[JFK]

So the TSA wants to do more upclose and personal patdowns, use the body scanners
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...tml?cmpid=2628
and everyone is up in arms about it. Then lo and behold, we get all these "bombs" on all these planes all at once.

None of them explode, the leads all point to some Saudi national orchestrating it all from Yemen. Within a day all the authorites know all about where the "bombs" came from the distribution method etc etc.

I call bullshit, I think this whole thing is all about selling the increased security, to all the sheep out there, also to foist it on the rest of us. We're from the Government, we are here to protect you.

[Martin]

Welcome to the dark side Jules.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Martin

Welcome to the dark side Jules.

yeah, the more we see, the darker it gets

[dyna mo]

et tu, Jules?!!

noooooooooooooooo.

[TurboAngel]

I don't fly but I had seen a clip on the news and the "pat" down looked like it could cross the line very easily.

[Cyandin]

Originally Posted by JFK

yeah, the more we see, the darker it gets

The problem Jules, is that not only are the masses taught to be incapable of questioning authority, but also to deride anyone who raises a voice of dissent.

It's really easy to hide behind the convenience of labeling people as tinfoil hat wearers, but when one really takes a close, objective look at the facts surrounding many questionable historical events, it's plain to see that what the evening news reports is far from the truth.

[quiet]

i enjoy my pat downs. lower, lower, yes.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

et tu, Jules?!!

noooooooooooooooo.

YES...............

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Cyandin

The problem Jules, is that not only are the masses taught to be incapable of questioning authority, but also to deride anyone who raises a voice of dissent.

It's really easy to hide behind the convenience of labeling people as tinfoil hat wearers, but when one really takes a close, objective look at the facts surrounding many questionable historical events, it's plain to see that what the evening news reports is far from the truth.

where does critical thinking fall in this?

[Phoenix]

how far does the rabbit hole go....and who is steering the ship?

[Maxi]

No shit..

Anything involving Al-queda or Osama bin Ladin is bullshit and is actually the work of a government agency.

Because there is no Al-queda, and Osama bin Ladin has been dead for around 7 years now.

[Sly]

The new "threats" were first reported by the Saudi government. That would make for one hell of a conspiracy.

If it was a conspiracy... wouldn't they have made it a little more telling? Perhaps bomb making material strapped to some dudes cock that got busted while rolling through the scanners.

At least with 9/11 there was a big boom, this theory is pretty weak. It did nothing.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by quiet

i enjoy my pat downs. lower, lower, yes.

Hey I got padded down last friday...

*fuck the police

[Cyandin]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

where does critical thinking fall in this?

I'm not sure I follow your question exactly. What I meant was that when you look at events and the actual facts (not just what the news reports), things often simply do not add up. Critical thinking is crucial here because if exercised, major holes in the stories we're told will appear.

[VikingMan]

Another painfully obvious false flag operation. The masses are so freaking dumb now that hardly any thought seems to go in to planning these false flags anymore.

[BlackCrayon]

i love how the news was telling us all how evil of a country yemen is almost like they are preparing us to generate hate so the masses won't mind when we start bombing them.

[MetaMan]

LOL please tell me you just arent starting to understand this?

Why on earth as a terrorist would you even try to blow yourself up on a plane?

Why wouldnt you do it in the backed up security line where more people are? and where you dont need to go through security? these guys can pull an international bomb plot but cant realize this?

Anyone who truly believes that some brown guys in a cave are plotting terror on america is a complete idiot. the only "terror" these guys cause is trying to protect the west from taking over their countries. which would make the coalition the terrorists.

Anyone outside the USA has seen what has been going on for years now.

Americans are so brainwashed and controlled by Israel is it not even funny.

[12clicks]

I haven't had any issues so far but I promise, if I get pulled aside for a pat down, I'm moaning like I like it.

[PornoStar69]

The sheeple are speaking

they dont understand

[Wizzo]

Meet the Resistance! LOL

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...istance/65390/

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Maxi

No shit..

Anything involving Al-queda or Osama bin Ladin is bullshit and is actually the work of a government agency.

Because there is no Al-queda, and Osama bin Ladin has been dead for around 7 years now.

wow, you'll go far in this world.

[seeandsee]

they must do something so they can still spy on people

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Meet the Resistance! LOL

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...istance/65390/

'That's funny," I said, "because 'The Resistance' is the actual name I've given to my testicles."

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by quiet

i enjoy my pat downs. lower, lower, yes.

funny that you say that as its exactly what I did last time It happened to me. Its amazing how fast that pat down ended.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Cyandin

I'm not sure I follow your question exactly. What I meant was that when you look at events and the actual facts (not just what the news reports), things often simply do not add up. Critical thinking is crucial here because if exercised, major holes in the stories we're told will appear.

simply because things on the news don't add up doesn't mean a story that doesn't add up is a conspiracy. we live in a complex system full of flaws. the fact is one of those flaws is the media.

[Cyandin]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

simply because things on the news don't add up doesn't mean a story that doesn't add up is a conspiracy. we live in a complex system full of flaws. the fact is one of those flaws is the media.

No, you're absolutely right in that regard, and that is not a logical basis from which to assume conspiracy, in and of itself.

What I look at are cases such as the "plane crashing" into the Pentagon. When ----O---- is the shape of the front of a jet (you like my awesome graphical depiction there?) and you get this tiny little 10 foot wide hole in the building, that's just ridiculous. They failed to retrieve one single piece of airplane from that crash, and no black box. Never in the history of modern commercial aviation has a wreck failed to produce rubble, except when the plane crashed in the sea in water too deep to affordably go chasing after it.

Or, take Building 7. Why did it collapse? Out of sheer astonishment at watching the other two go down? Nothing hit it! There is no conceivable reason except deliberate demolition that it would collapse, especially in the same morning as the other two building on 9/11.

I'm not saying I have all the answers here, by any means. I'm not even saying that it's not possible that there could be a non-conspiratorial explanation, but from what any smart person can make of what we DO know, these two example events did NOT play out the way we were told to believe.

[CDSmith]

You know, that does all sound pretty convenient and fishy.

Thanks Jules, now you've got me doing it. :D

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Cyandin

No, you're absolutely right in that regard, and that is not a logical basis from which to assume conspiracy, in and of itself.

What I look at are cases such as the "plane crashing" into the Pentagon. When ----O---- is the shape of the front of a jet (you like my awesome graphical depiction there?) and you get this tiny little 10 foot wide hole in the building, that's just ridiculous. They failed to retrieve one single piece of airplane from that crash, and no black box. Never in the history of modern commercial aviation has a wreck failed to produce rubble, except when the plane crashed in the sea in water too deep to affordably go chasing after it.

Or, take Building 7. Why did it collapse? Out of sheer astonishment at watching the other two go down? Nothing hit it! There is no conceivable reason except deliberate demolition that it would collapse, especially in the same morning as the other two building on 9/11.

I'm not saying I have all the answers here, by any means. I'm not even saying that it's not possible that there could be a non-conspiratorial explanation, but from what any smart person can make of what we DO know, these two example events did NOT play out the way we were told to believe.

well, we disagree on 9/11 and that's cool. because the simple fact of the matter, physics aside, is neither of us know.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

You know, that does all sound pretty convenient and fishy.

Thanks Jules, now you've got me doing it. :D

It's not the 1st time I have noticed such co incidences, but cant be bothered to post them all the time

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by JFK

So the TSA wants to do more upclose and personal patdowns, use the body scanners
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...tml?cmpid=2628
and everyone is up in arms about it. Then lo and behold, we get all these "bombs" on all these planes all at once.

None of them explode, the leads all point to some Saudi national orchestrating it all from Yemen. Within a day all the authorites know all about where the "bombs" came from the distribution method etc etc.

I call bullshit, I think this whole thing is all about selling the increased security, to all the sheep out there, also to foist it on the rest of us. We're from the Government, we are here to protect you.

it was funny, i read some article that there was no explosive material found, that got buried, and then all of a sudden they 'all could explode'

[magicmike]

So the TSA agents call the scanners cock measuring devices...

lol

[Tom_PM]

Before you get on that bus with wings, let us see your weenie. Sounds reasonable.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

it was funny, i read some article that there was no explosive material found, that got buried, and then all of a sudden they 'all could explode'

seems to me, I saw that as well

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

it was funny, i read some article that there was no explosive material found, that got buried, and then all of a sudden they 'all could explode'

not sure which news source that was but it's been reported via dozens of news agencies that the device contained pentaerythritol tetranitrate.

[u-Bob]

and so it begins..

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by JFK

I call bullshit...

Agreed

[PornMD]

Someone chopping a pic of John F. Kennedy saying: "It's a conspiracy! I know from seeing a lot of conspiracies in my time." would be priceless right about now.

Seriously though, I believe you're right.

[Itchy]

Originally Posted by magicmike

So the TSA agents call the scanners cock measuring devices...

lol

[Slutboat]

[epitome]

The bombs are not what made me angry...

At 3 AM when I couldn't sleep I tuned the DVR to the episode of Oprah where her and Gayle go camping at Yositime. It was interrupted by a press conference about the bombs.

I was so angry that they ruined my lesbian camping experience. There needs to be a law about 4 PM press conferences. When is Obama going to do something for ME?

[spazlabz]

does anyone else see the irony of a nick 'JFK' creating a thread titled "Not a conspiracy theorist, but this is too much of a coincidence !"


no....


just me?


LOL

[quiet]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

does anyone else see the irony of a nick 'JFK' creating a thread titled "Not a conspiracy theorist, but this is too much of a coincidence !"


no....


just me?


LOL

lol 8char

[Quentin]

I'm not sure I see the coincidence in the first place, honestly.

On the one hand, you have technology that is designed to prevent people from smuggling bombs/bomb parts on to a plane by concealing those bombs/parts on their person.

On the other hand, you have bombs that were being transported as cargo, a result of their having been mailed to another country.

Since the bombs were not smuggled aboard on the body of a person, the proposed bodily x-ray technology the TSA wants to employ would not have (and could not have) prevented what transpired here.

As such, any argument (or "propaganda campaign," if you prefer) that these attempted bombings could have been prevented by the bodily x-ray technology would be easily refuted, as it would be patently and obviously false.

If you're reaching for conspiracy theories connected to this, I'd say it would be much more likely that this was in furtherance of the U.S. defending its decision to target Anwar al Awlaki for assassination, and to bolster their defense in the civil suit brought by al Awlaki. Given that the bombing plot is alleged to be the work of the AQAP ("Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula") and al Awlaki is alleged to be a leader of the AQAP, that connection would make some sense to me as the basis of a conspiracy -- or (more likely IMO) as an act of mere opportunism, should it be the case that the bombs are real but the connection to AQAP is not.

I'm not at all suggesting that such a conspiracy is at work... just that it is a more plausible theory than the airport security/ x-ray one.

[baddog]

Scary thread.

[mchacal]

Is the pat-down performed by a male officer for males and a female officer for women?

I definitely prefer a women and I believe it should be performed by a female officer in all the cases

[96ukssob]

I dont think its as much as a gov't conspiracy as much as it is outside contractors wanting those contracts to build out those machines and funding for TSA "training"

Think about it tho... if they would of had these very expensive machines in place, these bombs would of never made it through. Someone probably said "nah, we dont need them" then they come back and say "told you so, now the price is higher!"

[sortie]

Originally Posted by Itchy

I might talk smack about these scanners but the reality is that if I go
to the airport and they say "walk through here"; I'm walking through the "here"
they just pointed to.

I'm not even going to try to do something different because I don't think
it will work out any better.

[2MuchMark]

Didn't you know that Fear sells?

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

does anyone else see the irony of a nick 'JFK' creating a thread titled "Not a conspiracy theorist, but this is too much of a coincidence !"


no....


just me?


LOL

Look a few posts above yours.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by PornMD

Look a few posts above yours.

yeah I saw that after I posted... you beat me to it