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Old 11-04-2010, 02:03 PM   #51
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lol @ payoneer
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:06 PM   #52
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We are reviewing all your concerns and are hoping to make changes to adjust to your needs. Please continue providing us feedback.

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A bit late for that...
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:15 PM   #53
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Something is broken on payoneer,their faq/fees page not working.
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:22 PM   #54
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:35 PM   #55
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So that is why nobody can pay money on my payoneer account. It is worthless until i get some payments from the sponsor i signed up with. I wonder if payments from other sponsors will go thru.
That would be a major flaw if true.

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You have been here since September and have 52 posts. Lurking is not going to cut it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:50 PM   #56
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So that is why nobody can pay money on my payoneer account. It is worthless until i get some payments from the sponsor i signed up with. I wonder if payments from other sponsors will go thru.
Hi! andreas!
I replied the same question before!
My account was "issued" by AWE, but my first payment was from FriendFinder. It was loaded without any problem.
It was in Sept/2010 and I never got a payment from AWE to Payoneer.
Its working fine until now!
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:39 PM   #57
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but 7$ atm withdraws
Where do you get that from? Our program partner has set the fee at $3.95 for ATM withdrawals and this is clearly stated on our website as you know!

PXN is stating that it is FREE to send and receive funds between CashX Personal accounts and his comment was not regarding our prepaid card program.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:49 PM   #58
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but 7$ atm withdraws
It's not 7 bucks. I use it like 10 times already so I know! Nice trying to destroy your competitor, everyone knows what you are up to.

And even if it is 7 bucks at least I know I'm not using a bank card being investigate by the government for Mossad assassination! Good luck with that.

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Old 11-04-2010, 11:53 PM   #59
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Yo, I love Cashx too, man, but you crack me up with your nickname, comprende?
Nope. Keep guessing
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:57 PM   #60
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4EUR sorry ....

4EUR today is $5.70US+$2(Average here) atm free .. so $7.50 per "instant cash" withdraw.
WTF their funds are not even in Euro. I bet you are confuse with your paxum card.

Anyone with a CashX card can verify it not 7 bucks.

In any case like Loch said, trying to make your competitor looking bad is not going to help you.

Maybe let M.O. handle support and you find something else to do.

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Old 11-04-2010, 11:58 PM   #61
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i would never, ever use this murderous company that is involved itself in terrorism like you can see with them providing the cards to a rogue state like israel

you really want your money used to fund terrorism? at least at epassporte it went to fund mallick's tan!!
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:15 AM   #62
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Yeah ok, you try receiving 50-300 micro payments of 50-500 bucks by wire.
Then run the math and shoot yourself

Ever thought about the fact that these systems are not solely used for paying affiliates?
Of course I agree with you that wires are too expensive for micropayments, but most affiliate programs let you adjust the minimum payout to a higher amount to make the cost of the transaction worth while.

I know someone who has his minimum payout set to $50.00. What ends up happening is that he was paying withdrawl fees, currency conversion fees, and ATM fees. The $50.00 was barely $40.00 by the time it was cash.

The best way save money is to set yourself up like this:

1. Increase the minimum payout. Instead of $50.00, consider $300, $500 or more.

2. Switch to wire payments.

2b. If you're in Canada, setup a US Bank account at your Canadian branch and have your wires sent to the US account instead. You will save alot of money on currency conversions.

Of course if you're just starting out and your affiliate commissions are smaller, a high min payout may be tough to do but when add up the fees you would pay out in a year the savings are significant.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:40 AM   #63
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:58 AM   #64
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:32 AM   #65
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Our program partner has set the fee at $3.95 for ATM withdrawals
Yearly average usage cost for card alone (including yearly/monthly fee(s)):
6 atm withdrawals/month 15 pos transactions/month

CashX $284.4 + $35.4 + $18.75 + $0 = $338.55 (NN Travel card)
EMC2 $108 + $24 + $0 + $0 = $132 (Electron?)
Paxum $144 + $0 + $15 + $44.95 = $203.95 (Full network access named)

This is for card use only. No card load, wallet fees, p2p fees, inhouse fx fees, etc etc. If CashX and EMC2 currency conversions is an inhouse fee the cost increases.
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:40 AM   #66
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Of course I agree with you that wires are too expensive for micropayments, but most affiliate programs let you adjust the minimum payout to a higher amount to make the cost of the transaction worth while.

I know someone who has his minimum payout set to $50.00. What ends up happening is that he was paying withdrawl fees, currency conversion fees, and ATM fees. The $50.00 was barely $40.00 by the time it was cash.

The best way save money is to set yourself up like this:

1. Increase the minimum payout. Instead of $50.00, consider $300, $500 or more.

2. Switch to wire payments.

2b. If you're in Canada, setup a US Bank account at your Canadian branch and have your wires sent to the US account instead. You will save alot of money on currency conversions.

Of course if you're just starting out and your affiliate commissions are smaller, a high min payout may be tough to do but when add up the fees you would pay out in a year the savings are significant.
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:47 AM   #67
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$2,500 daily!
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Of course I agree with you that wires are too expensive for micropayments, but most affiliate programs let you adjust the minimum payout to a higher amount to make the cost of the transaction worth while.

I know someone who has his minimum payout set to $50.00. What ends up happening is that he was paying withdrawl fees, currency conversion fees, and ATM fees. The $50.00 was barely $40.00 by the time it was cash.

The best way save money is to set yourself up like this:

1. Increase the minimum payout. Instead of $50.00, consider $300, $500 or more.

2. Switch to wire payments.

2b. If you're in Canada, setup a US Bank account at your Canadian branch and have your wires sent to the US account instead. You will save alot of money on currency conversions.

Of course if you're just starting out and your affiliate commissions are smaller, a high min payout may be tough to do but when add up the fees you would pay out in a year the savings are significant.
Mark i think you are completely missing the point here.
I am not just talking about affiliate payouts, that is just a small part of this business.

The B2B side is HUGE
I know of affiliates that spend ALL of their partner money in paying for services....which is why systems like CashX, Paxum etc can even stay aflote.

Sure wires or checks from your main partners are nice, but ....

Anyways, different conversation..
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If they dont shape up in the next month i just do not see how they can hang onto this industry.
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the days of sending all your traffic into promoting one program like clickcash or tcg have been gone for a long time now. sure i get wires from my larger sponsors, but for the hundreds of other smaller niche programs i promote if i had to wait until a 500-1000 payout they would have closed up shop by then. many programs are closing up even before a 50-100 min is reached. this isn't 2003 anymore, not even 2006. things have changed.
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"You must have minimum 3 payments of main sponzor if you will able to receive money of others payoneer partners."

Payoneer suck in many ways !
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Geez, you Paxum guys just keep proving time and time again why nobody should trust you guys... not even a little bit.

I'm looking into cashx though. Don't know much about them yet, but if Paxum feels threatened by them (which is obvious from the bashing with lies), they might be the way to go.
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The best way save money is to set yourself up like this:

1. Increase the minimum payout. Instead of $50.00, consider $300, $500 or more.

2. Switch to wire payments.
Ok, receiving an international wire costs me about 20 EUR. That's what my bank charges me. Plus sponsor wire fee of usually between $20 and $30. Then take into account that I'm promoting about 40 sponsors, just about 5 of them don't send just micropayments.

And no, I don't want to wait for half a year to finally get my money from my small sponsors, especially not if there's a way to receive it almost instantly, usually without any fee at all.
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Yearly average usage cost for card alone (including yearly/monthly fee(s)):
6 atm withdrawals/month 15 pos transactions/month

CashX $284.4 + $35.4 + $18.75 + $0 = $338.55 (NN Travel card)
EMC2 $108 + $24 + $0 + $0 = $132 (Electron?)
Paxum $144 + $0 + $15 + $44.95 = $203.95 (Full network access named)

This is for card use only. No card load, wallet fees, p2p fees, inhouse fx fees, etc etc. If CashX and EMC2 currency conversions is an inhouse fee the cost increases.
EMC2 Payouts does not charge 'in house' currency conversion fees. Any currency conversion fee that is charged by banks, networks, atm's, etc are passed through only. We have a new reduced fee schedule that LauraLee posted yesterday in another thread.
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so far I like Payoneer. I can go to the atm and withdraw my money, use it to buy groceries, and pay for my hosting.
I'm with you, nothing but a good experience, just high fees, but very secure.

Soon as you get a couple payments (two with me) from a linked sponsor they email you and tell you it is now ok to use the "load to anyones card" feature but you have to have a couple payments first.

I also like how they give you your balance on the withdrawl slips (atm machine).

But on $400 transfer and withdrawl for example, they are (3.75 x 4) + 2 (2 day wait, 5 if immediate) load fee = $17.

or 4.25 %.

Way better than foreign wires but way too high for many I realize.

Not being able to withdraw from Paypal hurts many, thus, the need for good p2p like Paxum.

I will be getting a Paxum card to show my support as it is good for the industry and of course tax deductible too.

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EMC2 Payouts does not charge 'in house' currency conversion fees. Any currency conversion fee that is charged by banks, networks, atm's, etc are passed through only. We have a new reduced fee schedule that LauraLee posted yesterday in another thread.
Thanks for clearing that up. Yep, your new fee schedule is reflected in the totals I calculated. Very competitive card fees indeed
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the days of sending all your traffic into promoting one program like clickcash or tcg have been gone for a long time now. sure i get wires from my larger sponsors, but for the hundreds of other smaller niche programs i promote if i had to wait until a 500-1000 payout they would have closed up shop by then. many programs are closing up even before a 50-100 min is reached. this isn't 2003 anymore, not even 2006. things have changed.
100% Agree
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Payoneer sucks big time. I wanted to open an account with them. I filled in all details, send them a copy of my passport, send them all officilal company documents.
I did everything what they asked me to do. Than I got this e-mail back;

Dear Dennis,

Just heard back from the bank.
Unfortunately they were not able to approve the partnership.
I hope you are able to find a payment solution that works for you.

Not giving any explenation at all.
Paxum is a much better story so far!
Exactly the same situation with my Partner account.
Good luck to them with all that bullshit plus people not being able to send money to other accounts.
Their customer support for both types of accounts also sucks balls !!! Had to wait for answers to my simple questions for 4-5 days.

I'm actually glad I never was able to open an account their.
Paxum offered me cookies, milk and warm welcome.
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I had one look at their system and clicked away to paxum and cashX. Payoneer sucks.
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"You must have minimum 3 payments of main sponzor if you will able to receive money of others payoneer partners."

Payoneer suck in many ways !
I haven't received any payments from the sponsor that gave me my card and I have successfully received payments from three other sponsors and withdrawn the cash via ATM.
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WTF their funds are not even in Euro. I bet you are confuse with your paxum card.

Anyone with a CashX card can verify it not 7 bucks.

In any case like Loch said, trying to make your competitor looking bad is not going to help you.

Maybe let M.O. handle support and you find something else to do.

they are fucking nauseating aren't they?................mallick making sure he sucks out more money again......and sheeple is at attention
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payoneer is the same team of thieves from live jasmin are they?
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payoneer is the same team of thieves from live jasmin are they?
Obviously not.

Payoneer is a seperate entity entirely. Live Jazmin is a customer.
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Obviously not.

Live Jazmin is a customer.
Live Jazmin?

Who did you buy this nick from?
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Not following you sorry. What do you mean?
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Payoneer is just for business to make their pockets full, huge fees, too many hassle every move there will be fees unlike paxum there is huge difference between to payoneer and paxum.

Payoneer do not ask more feedbacks if you cannot do something to reduce your fees, it doesn't make any sense to ask without any action.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:46 AM   #93
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Payoneer is just for business to make their pockets full, huge fees, too many hassle every move there will be fees unlike paxum there is huge difference between to payoneer and paxum.

Payoneer do not ask more feedbacks if you cannot do something to reduce your fees, it doesn't make any sense to ask without any action.

Who isn't in business to make their pockets full? That's like saying a restaurant full of people are there to make their stomach's full

Actually there isn't. The fees are almost identical. It's the way they are being presented that's confusing and Payoneer realizes this now and they are working to make it easier to compare and more in line with the industry.

Let's let Payoneer describe where they are headed here. They know this is an issue and they are working to address it.

Thank you for your feedback.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:16 PM   #94
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:16 PM   #95
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The fees are almost identical.
You're probably from US so you have no idea about their "cross border fees" even for USD transactions...
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:02 AM   #97
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You're probably from US so you have no idea about their "cross border fees" even for USD transactions...
Nah I know all about it. I know they are working to address this. It could also be that some of the other payout solutions are not in play around the world and hence the lack of the fee.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:30 PM   #98
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