2257 forms and model releases

[DigitalDruid]

Where would I find the Best and most up to date 2257 and model release forms?
I have been using a generic release my lawyer typed up aswell as the 2257 doc from freespeach but there must be a more detailed or extensive set of forms to have filled out when shooting content?
Do you have to have seperate forms for video and photo?
I have a bunch of exclusive content I want to market right away but in canada the paperwork is very relaxed and i need to be at par with the US regulations...... and my lawyer isnt much help there.
Thanks for any help you can give guys.
once i have the paperwork needed Ill have all kinds of samples to post ;)

[pornlaw]

If you are producing content in Canada I would be careful. Canada has very strict privacy laws that are different from the US and are not considered in the FSC's model release and 2257 docs. I know cause I was one of the authors of their releases.

Talk to an attorney that knows EU privacy laws and the safe harbor provisions. Dont use forms in this case.

[DigitalDruid]

Can you reccomend a good lawyer that deals with this stuff directly? Becuse Ive called the canadian lawyer refferal network and they came up with nothing.

[DigitalDruid]

This is nuts.
Everywhere i read The 2257 doc, 2 gov ID's scanned and filled on form and a standard model release with witness signed is ample for covering ones butt.
Is this not the case?

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by DigitalDruid

This is nuts.
Everywhere i read The 2257 doc, 2 gov ID's scanned and filled on form and a standard model release with witness signed is ample for covering ones butt.
Is this not the case?

Not legal advice.

Something along the lines of
2 ID's
Picture of them holding those ID's next to face.
Form that lists their real name, married name, and any aliases or stage names used, can be incorperated into another form.
Form that lists the date of production, can be incorperated into another form.
Maybe a clause that gives you the right to share an edited ID with the users of the material. Such editing would only leave the name and date of birth. Sort of a privacy waiver.
Then a real solid model release.

[DigitalDruid]

Thank you very much. Thats the kind of info im looking for.

[jeffrey]

Where in Alberta are you from?

You have to be careful because of the Privacy Act here. A general release and single form of ID is all thats needed in Canada.
Complying with the US 2257 in Canada can land you in jail. Selling the content to an American... well call a lawyer. I can get you the name of the guy I use, but expect a 400 dollar bill just for his secretary to transfer your call to him.

[Quentin]

Here's contact info for a very fine attorney in the Vancouver area. Paul represents a number of Canadian adult companies, and I believe he is well-versed in the issues you need to discuss:

Paul G. Kent-Snowsell
Address: 3855 Henning Drive
St. #208
Burnaby, BC V5C6N, Canada
Phone: (604) 298-5297 (Ext. 22)
Fax: (604) 298-5293

[DigitalDruid]

jeffrey, I sent you a msg.
Quentin, I called him and am waiting for a call back.

I find it odd that there are so many people that deal with this everyday but no one knows what to do? Ive got a bunch of content to sell and lots invested in it. The models are close by and will fix up any paperwork if needed..... I just need to know what that may be???
Thanks for the help guys I will remember you when it comes time to sell ;)

[DigitalDruid]

I got some help (could use more though),
thanks guys

[baddog]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Not legal advice.

Something along the lines of
2 ID's
Picture of them holding those ID's next to face.
Form that lists their real name, married name, and any aliases or stage names used, can be incorperated into another form.
Form that lists the date of production, can be incorperated into another form.
Maybe a clause that gives you the right to share an edited ID with the users of the material. Such editing would only leave the name and date of birth. Sort of a privacy waiver.
Then a real solid model release.

It is suggested that you should ask them these questions and videotape it so no one can come along later and say you forced them into it.

[tony286]

go talk to a lawyer.

[pornask]

It's true about 2257. It's not a Canadian law and by complying with it you are breaking Canadian PITA laws. Lawyer is your safest bet.

[CumSlutKylie]

When doing video I also (just to cover my ass) have them record the same text spoken as on the release form and show id on cam....
Just me being paranoid lol

[pornask]

Originally Posted by CumSlutKylie

Just me being paranoid lol

There's no such thing as being paranoid. Models are unstable individuals. You can either have your ass properly covered or you are looking at some serious issues that are going to happen down the road and might ruin your life completely. Protect yourself and avoid drama. We live in a sue happy age. If you don't have a solid proof, it's just a question of tim when someone tries to take advantage of you.

[blogman9]

Greate topic, bumped to first page:
There is no money in porn

[jakethedog]

Originally Posted by Quentin

Here's contact info for a very fine attorney in the Vancouver area. Paul represents a number of Canadian adult companies, and I believe he is well-versed in the issues you need to discuss:

Paul G. Kent-Snowsell
Address: 3855 Henning Drive
St. #208
Burnaby, BC V5C6N, Canada
Phone: (604) 298-5297 (Ext. 22)
Fax: (604) 298-5293

Been a very good friend of mine for coming on 10 yrs now .. .. he knows the biz better than anyone else in Canada .. tell him I (Jake Sweet) sent you

[GregE]

Originally Posted by baddog

It is suggested that you should ask them these questions and videotape it so no one can come along later and say you forced them into it.

Such a tape will also help to prove that she wasn't falling down drunk when she signed the dotted line.

[XXXMovie4M]

Originally Posted by baddog

It is suggested that you should ask them these questions and videotape it so no one can come along later and say you forced them into it.

good suggestion! that's how girls-gone-wild does it!

[Niktamer]

what about a guy shoting for me in Domincan republic and sending me the content with the id of the girls ... we are both from canada.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

If you are producing content in Canada I would be careful. Canada has very strict privacy laws that are different from the US and are not considered in the FSC's model release and 2257 docs. I know cause I was one of the authors of their releases.

Talk to an attorney that knows EU privacy laws and the safe harbor provisions. Dont use forms in this case.

I'll second that.

We are subject to Dutch Laws and EU directives that are of a similar issue ...