Al Qaeda Group Takes Credit for Mail Bomb Plot: More From The Religion of Peace!

[SallyRand]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...html?tag=stack

(CBS/AP) A Yemen-based al Qaeda group is claiming responsibility for the international mail bomb plot uncovered late last week.

A week after authorities intercepted packages in Dubai and England that were bound for the U.S., Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula issued a message Friday saying it will continue to strike American interests.

Both mail bombs were wired to detonators that used cell phone technology.

U.S. officials have said they believe it was the Yemen group. The claim was reported by the private SITE Intelligence Group.

On Thursday the French Interior Minister said the bomb was defused at England's East Midlands airport just 17 minutes before it was due to go off. The White House said Thursday they could not confirm that.

"Al Qaeda gave us another warning," says Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass. "They are obsessed with attacking us through the aviation sector."

Had things gone according to plan the UPS package could have been either on the ground in Philadelphia or on a plane to Chicago when the cartridge, packed with a pound of the explosive PETN, was set to explode.

A law enforcement source tells CBS News one idea being examined - the ignition source of the bomb - may well have been a cell phone battery coupled with the charge from the flash of its built-in camera.

"The cost would have been incalculable," says Markey. "We would be talking about a damage of tens or hundreds of billions of dollars to the U.S. and global economy."

CBS News has learned the intelligence community believes a half-dozen individuals or more representing core al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula may be responsible for initiating and orchestrating the attacks.

Despite the failed bombing attempts, an intelligence source tells CBS News al Qaeda sees the attacks as a success because of the chaos and fear they've created.


?MMX, CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

[stocktrader23]

Define Al Qaeda.

You are scared of an urban legend.

Also, if you were a terrorist wouldn't you claim every 'disaster' in the world?

[Amputate Your Head]

oh noes... not teh Al Qaeda.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Define Al Qaeda.

You are scared of an urban legend.

Also, if you were a terrorist wouldn't you claim every 'disaster' in the world?

I don't know?

Would I?

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

I don't know?

Would I?

These groups don't have the resources to do much of shit. However, they like to appear big and powerful. Therefore, they claim all kinds of shit that they did not do.

Also, Al Qaeda is bullshit.

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Despite the failed bombing attempts, an intelligence source tells CBS News al Qaeda sees the attacks as a success because of the chaos and fear they've created.

IMO that's what they were attempting to do in the first place and if the packages had actually gone off then they would have been considered it a "bonus".

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

These groups don't have the resources to do much of shit. However, they like to appear big and powerful. Therefore, they claim all kinds of shit that they did not do.

Also, Al Qaeda is bullshit.

Please substantiate your claim.

[garce]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

I don't know?

Would I?

Why are you jamming a petrified penis into your dog's mouth?

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Please substantiate your claim.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by garce

Why are you jamming a petrified penis into your dog's mouth?

Oh, I was indeed waiting for that one!

You got set up!

That is a rawhide bone and my other third is playing "Keep Away"!

You are far too easy!

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Also, Al Qaeda is bullshit.

Agreed

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Nice fairy tale.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...a/al-qaida.htm

'Al-Qaida / Al-Qaeda (the Base)

Al-Qaeda is an international terrorist network led by Usama bin Laden [the "Osama" spelling is deprecated, because there is no letter "O" in Arabic). Established around 1988 by bin Laden, al-Qaeda helped finance, recruit, transport and train thousands of fighters from dozens of countries to be part of an Afghan resistance to defeat the Soviet Union. To continue the holy war beyond Afghanistan, al-Qaeda's current goal is to establish a pan-Islamic Caliphate throughout the world by working with allied Islamic extremist groups to overthrow regimes it deems "non-Islamic" and expelling Westerners and non-Muslims from Muslim countries.

In February 1998, al-Qaeda issued a statement under banner of "The World Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Jews and Crusaders" saying it was the duty of all Muslims to kill US citizens?civilian or military?and their allies everywhere. Al-Qaeda would merge with Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Al-Jihad) of Ayman al-Zawahiri in June 2001.

After al-Qaeda?s September 11, 2001, attacks on America, the United States launched a war in Afghanistan to destroy al-Qaeda?s bases there and overthrow the Taliban, the country?s Muslim fundamentalist rulers who harbored bin Laden and his followers. ?Al-Qaeda? is Arabic for ?the base.?

In an al-Qaeda house in Afghanistan, New York Times reporters found a brief statement of the ?Goals and Objectives of Jihad?:

* Establishing the rule of God on earth
* Attaining martyrdom in the cause of God
* Purification of the ranks of Islam from the elements of depravity

In 1998, several al-Qaeda leaders issued a declaration calling on Muslims to kill Americans?including civilians?as well as ?those who are allied with them from among the helpers of Satan.?

Tactics include assassination, bombing, hijacking, kidnapping, suicide attacks, et al. Numerous reports and public bin Laden proclamations indicate strong desire to obtain and utilize biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. Targets tend to be prominent symbols (public buildings, embassy and military personnel, etc.) of the United States, its allies, and moderate Muslim governments. According to the former CIA Director George J. Tenet, ?Usama Bin Ladin's organization and other terrorist groups are placing increased emphasis on developing surrogates to carry out attacks in an effort to avoid detection. For example, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) is linked closely to Bin Ladin's organization and has operatives located around the world?including in Europe, Yemen, Pakistan, Lebanon, and Afghanistan. And, there is now an intricate web of alliances among Sunni extremists worldwide, including North Africans, radical Palestinians, Pakistanis, and Central Asians. Some of these terrorists are actively sponsored by national governments that harbor great antipathy toward the United States.?

The group has targeted American and other Western interests as well as Jewish targets and Muslim governments it saw as corrupt or impious ? above all, the Saudi monarchy. Al-Qaeda linked attacks include:

* May 12, 2003 car bomb attacks on three residential compounds in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
* November 2002 car bomb attack and a failed attempt to shoot down an Israeli jetliner with shoulder-fired missiles, both in Mombasa, Kenya
* October 2002 attack on a French tanker off the coast of Yemen Several spring 2002 bombings in Pakistan
* April 2002 explosion of a fuel tanker outside a synagogue in Tunisia
* September 11, 2001, hijacking attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon
* October 12, 2000 U.S.S. Cole bombing in Aden, Yemen killing 17 crew members and wounding 39.
* August 7, 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
* Al-Qaeda is suspected of carrying out or directing sympathetic groups to carry out the May 2003 suicide attacks on Western interests in Casablanca, Morocco; the October 12, 2002 nightclub bombing in Bali, Indonesia; the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; and a series of incidents in Saudi Arabia against U.S. targets from 1995 to 1996

Plots linked to al-Qaeda that were disrupted or prevented include: a 2001 attempt by Richard Reid to explode a shoe bomb on a transatlantic flight; a 1999 plot to set off a bomb at Los Angeles International Airport; a 1995 plan to blow up 12 transpacific flights of U.S. commercial airliners; a 1995 plan to kill President Bill Clinton on a visit to the Philippines; and a 1994 plot to kill Pope John Paul II during a visit to Manila.

Any information about Al-Qaeda's U.S. operations has come from investigations following the September 11 attacks and the December 1999 foiled Los Angeles airport attack. Interrogations of captured al-Qaeda terrorists are occurring at Guantanamo Bay and from additional undisclosed locations. The extent to which valuable intelligence or information about al-Qaeda's organization is being provided is not known.

In the federal indictment of Zacarias Moussaoui, who was apprehended in August 2001, prosecutors described how the hijackers lived in the United States for months before the attacks?renting apartments, taking flight classes, joining health clubs, and living off funds wired from overseas.

On 29 October 2004, four days before the U.S. presidential election, al-Qaida leader Usama bin Laden had threatened new attacks on the United States. He appeared in a video broadcast on the Arab TV network Al Jazeera claiming responsibility for the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York. Speaking in a calm but strong voice, the terrorist leader referred to the following week's U.S. election, telling Americans their security did not depend on President Bush or Democratic candidate John Kerry or al-Qaida, but would depend on government policies. Bin Laden said al-Qaida decided, in his words, to destroy New Yorks' World Trade towers in 2001 and listed several factors that motivated the attack, including frustration over what he called America's pro-Israeli Middle East policies. He said Israel's bombing attacks on Beirut in 1982 gave him the idea of targeting New York's skyscrapers.
Al-Qaeda's Operations Manual

In the early 1990s, al-Qaeda produced the Encyclopedia of the Afghan Jihad, a detailed how-to guide for using handguns, explosives, and biological and chemical weapons, in print and on CD-ROM. Materials belonging to a captured al-Qaeda operative in England detailed techniques for forgery, surveillance, and espionage.

Al-Qaida has cells worldwide and is reinforced by its ties to Sunni extremist networks. Coalition attacks on Afghanistan since October 2001 have dismantled the Taliban?al-Qaida?s protectors?and led to the capture, death, or dispersal of al-Qaida operatives. Some al-Qaeda members at large probably will attempt to carry out future attacks against US interests. Other known areas of operation: United States, Yemen, Germany, Pakistan.

Al-Qaida is a multi-national network possessing a global reach and has supported through financing, training and logistics, Islamic militants in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bosnia, Chechnya, Eritrea, Kosovo, the Philippines, Somalia, Tajikistan, and Yemen, and now Kosovo. Additionally, al-Qaida has been linked to conflicts and attacks in Africa, Asia, Europe, the former Soviet Republics, the Middle East, as well as North and South America.

CONT'D:

[SallyRand]

cont'd:

The headquarters of al-Qaeda are not known anymore.

* From 1991 to 1996, al-Qaeda worked out of Sudan.
* From 1996 until the collapse of the Taliban in 2001, al-Qaeda operated out of Afghanistan and maintained its training camps there.
* U.S. intelligence officials now think al-Qaeda?s senior leadership is trying to regroup in lawless tribal regions just inside Pakistan, near the Afghan border, inside Pakistani cities or in Iran.
* In May 2003, administration officials claimed that senior al-Qaeda figures were in Iran and urged Tehran to apprehend them. Sa'ad bin Laden, Usama bin Laden's son, in an October 2003 report, is said be among those in Iran.
* Al-Qaeda has autonomous underground cells in some 100 countries, including the United States, officials say. Law enforcement has broken up al-Qaeda cells in the United Kingdom, the United States, Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Albania, Uganda, and elsewhere

It is impossible to known precisely, due to the decentralized stucture of the organization. Al-Qaida may have several thousand members and associates. It trained over 5,000 militants in camps in Afghanistan since the late 1980s. It also serves as a focal point for a worldwide network that includes many Sunni Islamic extremist groups, some members of al-Gama?a al-Islamiyya, the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, and the Harakat ul-Mujahidin.
External Aid

Bin Laden, member of a billionaire family that owns the Bin Ladin Group construction empire, is said to have inherited tens of millions of dollars that he uses to help finance the group. Al-Qaida also maintains moneymaking front businesses, solicits donations from like-minded supporters, and illicitly siphons funds from donations to Muslim charitable organizations. US efforts to block al-Qaida funding has hampered al-Qaida?s ability to obtain money.

Al-Qaida has cooperated with a number of known terrorist groups worldwide including:

* Armed Islamic Group
* Salafist Group for Call and Combat and the Armed Islamic Group
* Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Egypt)
* Al-Gama?a al-Islamiyya
* Jamaat Islamiyya
* The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group
* Bayt al-Imam (Jordan)
* Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad (Kashmir)
* Asbat al Ansar
* Hezbollah (Lebanon)
* Al-Badar
* Harakat ul Ansar/Mujahadeen
* Al-Hadith
* Harakat ul Jihad
* Jaish Mohammed - JEM
* Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam
* Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan
* Laskar e-Toiba - LET
* Moro Islamic Liberation Front (the Philippines)
* Abu Sayyaf Group (Malaysia, Philippines)
* Al-Ittihad Al Islamiya - AIAI (Somalia)
* Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
* Islamic Army of Aden (Yemen)

These groups share al-Qaeda?s Sunni Muslim fundamentalist views. Some terror experts theorize that Al-Qaeda, after the loss of it Afghanistan base, may be increasingly reliant on sympathetic affiliates to carry out it agenda. Intelligence officials and terrorism experts also say that al-Qaeda has stepped up its cooperation on logistics and training with Hezbollah, a radical, Iran-backed Lebanese militia drawn from the minority Shiite strain of Islam.

Al-Arabiyah television reported on 20 October 2004 that Jama'at Al-Tawhid wa Al-Jihad hadr released a statement claiming it has officially joined the Al-Qaeda terrorist network. Al-Jazeera broadcast a statement by the group identifying itself as Tanzim Qa'idat Al-Jihad in Bilad al-Rafidayn (Organization of Jihad's Base in the Country of the Two Rivers). Iraq is commonly known as the land of the two rivers, the Tigris and Euphrates. The statement has not been verified. Usama bin Laden'd 29 October 2004 video broadcast on the Arab TV network Al Jazeera made no mention of Zarqawi, suggesting that the report a few days earlier that Zarqawi and Bin Laden had joined forces were in error.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Nice fairy tale.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...a/al-qaida.htm

I also get my news on national security issues from sites that advertise Galaga in the header.



If you like that one you'll love this one.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/

Just watch out for those pesky chemtrails when you go hiding from Al Qaeda in the shadows.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I also get my news on national security issues from sites that advertise Galaga in the header.



If you like that one you'll love this one.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/

Just watch out for those pesky chemtrails when you go hiding from Al Qaeda in the shadows.

CPA is CPA and we do porn here, so what is the big deal?

You are also free to prove any of the information given by GlobalSecurty to be false or inaccurate.

Get busy!

Money is where you find it.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

You are also free to prove any of the information given by GlobalSecurty to be false or inaccurate.

I already did, you just didn't bother to pay attention.

[Kiopa_Matt]

This seems like a good place to put this. Gave me a chuckle at least.

--------------------------------------
A lady Canadian libertarian wrote a lot of letters to the government, complaining about the treatment of captive insurgents (terrorists) being held in Afghanistan National Correctional System facilities.

She received back the following reply:

National Defence Headquarters
MGen George R. Pearkes Bldg, 15 NT
101 Colonel By Drive
Ottawa, ON K1A 0K2
Canada

Dear Concerned Citizen,

Thank you for your recent letter expressing your profound concern of treatment of the Taliban and Al Qaeda terrorists captured by Canadian Forces who were subsequently transferred to the Afghanistan Government and are currently being held by Afghan officials in Afghanistan National Correctional System facilities.

Our administration takes these matters seriously and your opinions were heard loud and clear here in Ottawa .

You will be pleased to learn, thanks to the concerns of citizens like yourself; we are creating a new department here at the Department of National Defence, to be called 'Liberals Accept Responsibility for Killer s' program, or L.A.R.K. for short.

In accordance with the guidelines of this new program, we have decided to divert one terrorist and place him in your personal care.

Your personal detainee has been selected and is scheduled for transportation under heavily armed guard to your residence in Toronto next Monday.

Ali Mohammed Ahmed bin Mahmud (you can just call him Ahmed) is to be cared for pursuant to the standards you personally demanded in your letter of complaint.

It will likely be necessary for you to hire some assistant caretakers.. We will conduct weekly inspections to ensure that your standards of care for Ahmed are commensurate with those you so strongly recommend in your letter.

Although Ahmed is a sociopath and extremely violent, we hope that your sensitivity to what you described as his 'attitudinal problem' will help him overcome these character flaws.

Perhaps you are correct in describing these problems as mere cultural differences.

We understand that you plan to offer counselling and home schooling.

Your adopted terrorist is extremely proficient in hand-to-hand combat and can extinguish human life with such simple items as a pencil or nail clippers.

We advise that you do not ask him to demonstrate these skills at your next yoga group.

He is also expert at making a wide variety of explosive devices from common household products, so you may wish to keep those items locked up, unless (in your opinion) this might offend him.

Ahmed will not wish to interact with you or your daughters (except sexually) since he views females as a subhuman form of property.

This is a particularly sensitive subject for him and he has been known to show violent tendencies around women who fail to comply with the new dress code that he will recommend as more appropriate attire.

I'm sure you will come to enjoy the anonymity offered by the burka over time. Just remember that it is all part of 'respecting his culture and religious beliefs' as described in your letter.

Thanks again for your concern. We truly appreciate it when folks like you keep us informed of the proper way to do our job and care for our fellow man.

You take good care of Ahmed and remember we'll be watching.

Good luck and God bless you.

Cordially,
Gordon O'Connor

Minister of National Defence

[Dcat]

Al Qaeda is a CIA/ISI creation. Completely discredited as any sort of legitimate threat to anyone.

Also, don't you think the leap backwards from taking responsibility for 9/11 to a unspectacular "mail bomb plot" would be a HUGE STEP BACKWARDS??? I mean how embarrassing is that...?

[Maxi]

There is no Al Queda never was, all the major attacks attributed to them since 2001 have been the work of intelligence agencies with the purpose of scaring dumb fucks like you all into accepting ridiculous shit like having to take off your shoes and walking through x ray scanners at the airport.

The government will hold a gun to your head with one hand and offer protection with the other, only the hand holding the gun looks like Al Queda and the protection they offer is you willingly giving up your rights & accepting a police state.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Define Al Qaeda.

You are scared of an urban legend.

Also, if you were a terrorist wouldn't you claim every 'disaster' in the world?

It's obvious you think you know much more than everyone else because you've learned it on the Internet, however, repeating stupid shit like this just makes you the stand out dullard in the room.

[WarChild]

Some of you should really check out "My Trip to Al-Qaeda" a Documentary about a Journalist who has spent most of his career living, teaching and writing in Arabic states. I know you heard on the Internet that there's no such thing as Al-Qaeda, you might want to consider filling in the glaring gaps in your knowledge.

[TheDoc]

It's all fake, no wars are going on right now, only the media shows death.. wake up........ it's easy to be crazy.

[react]

Way to claim credit for a complete failure.

[GatorB]

Eric Rudolph Christian terrorist. I thought Christianity was the religion of peace?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Maxi

There is no Al Queda never was, all the major attacks attributed to them since 2001 have been the work of intelligence agencies with the purpose of scaring dumb fucks like you all into accepting ridiculous shit like having to take off your shoes and walking through x ray scanners at the airport.

The government will hold a gun to your head with one hand and offer protection with the other, only the hand holding the gun looks like Al Queda and the protection they offer is you willingly giving up your rights & accepting a police state.

Pigshit.

[Alky]

Aliens could take over the US and Al Qaeda would take credit for it...

[minicivan]

Originally Posted by garce

Why are you jamming a petrified penis into your dog's mouth?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

if you were a terrorist wouldn't you claim every 'disaster' in the world?

First group to claim any bomb was theirs always gets a lot of publicity.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by Maxi

There is no Al Queda never was, all the major attacks attributed to them since 2001 have been the work of intelligence agencies with the purpose of scaring dumb fucks like you all into accepting ridiculous shit like having to take off your shoes and walking through x ray scanners at the airport.

The government will hold a gun to your head with one hand and offer protection with the other, only the hand holding the gun looks like Al Queda and the protection they offer is you willingly giving up your rights & accepting a police state.

[SmokeyTheBear]

al qaeda is not a religion, i thougt you were smarter than this.

Although i suppose you are insinuating that all muslims feel the same way as a TINY fraction of radicals. either way it is an idiotic assumption. Just as it would be idiotic to assume "westboro baptist church" represents all baptists or all americans.

only idiot racists really believe this hogwash.

[Agent 488]

what ethnicity are you?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

what ethnicity are you?

i like ethnic food.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

i like ethnic food.

I like eating ethnic...

[MediaGuy]

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[SallyRand]

It would appear that there are Al Queda supporters or perhaps even Al Queda members here among us based on the latest (Negative) rep left for me:

"Al Qaeda Group Takes... 11-06-2010 10:25 AM lay off Al Qaeda asshole"

[Agent 488]

oh noes Al Queda on gfy ...

[SallyRand]

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

The Usual Suspects (1995)

Verbal; a.k.a., Keyser Soze.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

The Usual Suspects (1995)

Verbal; a.k.a., Keyser Soze.

what does michael from paxum have to do with this?

which nick does bin laden post under here? or maybe azzam the american does?

[dyna mo]

i will admit that i don't understand it all. on the one hand, we didn't have this problem during the cold war, then conveniently it pops up asap after that war ends. there are terrorists out there, that i am sure of, but there's also this sort of information

Al Qaeda ? the Database
Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that ?Al Qaeda? is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.
Wayne Madsen Report
?I first heard about Al-Qaida while I was attending the Command and Staff course in Jordan. I was a French officer at that time and the French Armed Forces had close contacts and cooperation with Jordan . . .
?Two of my Jordanian colleagues were experts in computers. They were air defense officers. Using computer science slang, they introduced a series of jokes about students? punishment.
?For example, when one of us was late at the bus stop to leave the Staff College, the two officers used to tell us: ?You?ll be noted in ?Q eidat il-Maaloomaat? which meant ?You?ll be logged in the information database.? Meaning ?You will receive a warning . . .? If the case was more severe, they would used to talk about ?Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.? Meaning ?the decision database.? It meant ?you will be punished.? For the worst cases they used to speak of logging in ?Al Qaida.?
?In the early 1980s the Islamic Bank for Development, which is located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, like the Permanent Secretariat of the Islamic Conference Organization, bought a new computerized system to cope with its accounting and communication requirements. At the time the system was more sophisticated than necessary for their actual needs.
?It was decided to use a part of the system?s memory to host the Islamic Conference?s database. It was possible for the countries attending to access the database by telephone: an Intranet, in modern language. The governments of the member-countries as well as some of their embassies in the world were connected to that network.
?[According to a Pakistani major] the database was divided into two parts, the information file where the participants in the meetings could pick up and send information they needed, and the decision file where the decisions made during the previous sessions were recorded and stored. In Arabic, the files were called, ?Q eidat il-Maaloomaat? and ?Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.? Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic ?Q eidat ilmu?ti?aat? which is the exact translation of the English word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the Arabic word for ?base.? The military air base of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia is called ?q eidat ?riyadh al ?askariya.? Q eida means ?a base? and ?Al Qaida? means ?the base.?
?In the mid-1980s, Al Qaida was a database located in computer and dedicated to the communications of the Islamic Conference?s secretariat.
?In the early 1990s, I was a military intelligence officer in the Headquarters of the French Rapid Action Force. Because of my skills in Arabic my job was also to translate a lot of faxes and letters seized or intercepted by our intelligence services . . . We often got intercepted material sent by Islamic networks operating from the UK or from Belgium.
?These documents contained directions sent to Islamic armed groups in Algeria or in France. The messages quoted the sources of statements to be exploited in the redaction of the tracts or leaflets, or to be introduced in video or tapes to be sent to the media. The most commonly quoted sources were the United Nations, the non-aligned countries, the UNHCR and . . . Al Qaida.
?Al Qaida remained the data base of the Islamic Conference. Not all member countries of the Islamic Conference are ?rogue states? and many Islamic groups could pick up information from the databases. It was but natural for Osama Bin Laden to be connected to this network. He is a member of an important family in the banking and business world.
?Because of the presence of ?rogue states,? it became easy for terrorist groups to use the email of the database. Hence, the email of Al Qaida was used, with some interface system, providing secrecy, for the families of the mujaheddin to keep links with their children undergoing training in Afghanistan, or in Libya or in the Beqaa valley, Lebanon. Or in action anywhere in the battlefields where the extremists sponsored by all the ?rogue states? used to fight. And the ?rogue states? included Saudi Arabia. When Osama bin Laden was an American agent in Afghanistan, the Al Qaida Intranet was a good communication system through coded or covert messages.
Meet ?Al Qaeda?
?Al Qaida was neither a terrorist group nor Osama bin Laden?s personal property . . . The terrorist actions in Turkey in 2003 were carried out by Turks and the motives were local and not international, unified, or joint. These crimes put the Turkish government in a difficult position vis-a-vis the British and the Israelis. But the attacks certainly intended to ?punish? Prime Minister Erdogan for being a ?toot tepid? Islamic politician.
? . . . In the Third World the general opinion is that the countries using weapons of mass destruction for economic purposes in the service of imperialism are in fact ?rogue states,? specially the US and other NATO countries.
? Some Islamic economic lobbies are conducting a war against the ?liberal? economic lobbies. They use local terrorist groups claiming to act on behalf of Al Qaida. On the other hand, national armies invade independent countries under the aegis of the UN Security Council and carry out pre-emptive wars. And the real sponsors of these wars are not governments but the lobbies concealed behind them.
?The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the ?devil? only in order to drive the ?TV watcher? to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money.?
In yet another example of what happens to those who challenge the system, in December 2001, Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel was convicted by a secret French military court of passing classified documents that identified potential NATO bombing targets in Serbia to a Serbian agent during the Kosovo war in 1998. Bunel?s case was transferred from a civilian court to keep the details of the case classified. Bunel?s character witnesses and psychologists notwithstanding, the system ?got him? for telling the truth about Al Qaeda and who has actually been behind the terrorist attacks commonly blamed on that group. It is noteworthy that that Yugoslav government, the government with whom Bunel was asserted by the French government to have shared information, claimed that Albanian and Bosnian guerrillas in the Balkans were being backed by elements of ?Al Qaeda.? We now know that these guerrillas were being backed by money provided by the Bosnian Defense Fund, an entity established as a special fund at Bush-influenced Riggs Bank and directed by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

[potter]

everyday you drive somewhere, every single car you see on the road is 100,000 times more of a threat to you than "terrorists".

[ottopottomouse]

You're probably more likely to die from being raped by an elephant than from the efforts of a terrorist.

[nikki99]

Allah alleluyah

[Barry-xlovecam]

My dog just pinched a loaf ...

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

You're probably more likely to die from being raped by an elephant than from the efforts of a terrorist.

Tell that to the 2572 people who died in the World Trade Center attack and to the thousands killed world-wide each year in terrorist attacks.

[leedsfan]

Do you ever post any adult related threads?

What a constant stream of bullshit.

Sally Rant.....much more accurate name for you.

[minicivan]

They must be desperate if they are really trying to take credit for failed attempts. That doesn't sound right.

[leedsfan]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

The Usual Suspects (1995)

Verbal; a.k.a., Keyser Soze.

lol, wow such insight. Maybe you can convince us you don't exist by not posting here anymore. Why don't you go hang out on some other boards:
http://www.rightwingextreme.us/
http://www.rightwing.com/
http://www.imamoron.com/
http://www.labotomysurvivors.com/

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Tell that to the 2572 people who died in the World Trade Center attack and to the thousands killed world-wide each year in terrorist attacks.

42,116 people died in car accidents in the US in 2001.

Yes, 9/11 was a tragedy, but you are an order of magnitude more likely to die in a car accident than get killed by a terrorist.

[machinegunkelly]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

It would appear that there are Al Queda supporters or perhaps even Al Queda members here among us based on the latest (Negative) rep left for me:

"Al Qaeda Group Takes... 11-06-2010 10:25 AM lay off Al Qaeda asshole"

- Better update the terror alert, now Al Queda is trolling americans on Gfy!

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

42,116 people died in car accidents in the US in 2001.

Yes, 9/11 was a tragedy, but you are an order of magnitude more likely to die in a car accident than get killed by a terrorist.

Agreed but when you drive or ride in your car, you wear your seatbelt, right? when driving at tnight, you have your headlights on, right? You use your turn signals to be safe in turning or changing lanes? In short, you drive or should drive in a defensive manner, just as you should maintain a attitude of good self defense towards terrorists, whatever name they choose to call themselves.