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Agent 488 · 11-07-2010, 12:55 PM

"Man is an artifact designed for space travel. He is not designed to remain in his present biologic state any more than a tadpole is designed to remain a tadpole." - William S. Burroughs

chazzKorvex · 11-07-2010, 12:56 PM

How do people age on Mars? Do you age faster or slower or the same? Can you pay for your own trip back?

Maxi · 11-07-2010, 01:00 PM

I don't know understand how someone with a little logic can accept the suggestion that moon travel is the only technological advancement in the history of man kind that has been abandoned.

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How We'll Get Back to the Moon

Before the end of the next decade, NASA astronauts will again explore the surface of the moon. And this time, we're going to stay, building outposts and paving the way for eventual journeys to Mars and beyond. There are echoes of the iconic images of the past, but it won't be your grandfather's moon shot.

With a minimum of two lunar missions per year, momentum will build quickly toward a permanent outpost. Crews will stay longer and learn to exploit the moon's resources, while landers make one way trips to deliver cargo. Eventually, the new system could rotate crews to and from a lunar outpost every six months.

Before the end of the next decade? Thats 2020. Does this sound like something that had already been done in the 1960's?

Seriously..

Uhh yeah, we've already been to mars in the 1960's but we can't go back until after 2020. Perfect logic.

Ethersync · 11-07-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy

Wrong. There is an isotope thought to be in the moon that is worth more than gold. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3
They only wish they could actually go there and get it...

Correct. This is likely a large part of why there is so much renewed interest in the moon by China, Russia, India and the US.

Ethersync · 11-07-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzKorvex

How do people age on Mars? Do you age faster or slower or the same?

Much slower. A human can live well over 1,000 years on Mars.

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Originally Posted by chazzKorvex

Can you pay for your own trip back?

Absolutely.

WarChild · 11-07-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

There are two invisible rings of radiation trapped by the Earth’s magnetic field in the upper atmosphere situated about 3,000 and 15,000 kilometers above the surface. These belts of radiation are named Van Allen radiation belts after the physicist James Van Allen who had discovered them in 1958. Van Allen belts contain high-energy, charged subatomic (electrons and protons) particles emitted by solar flares and carried by solar wind. If the Earth’s magnetic field had not trapped these subatomic particles and held them in the form of thick belts or rigs away from the Earth their radiation measuring 3,00,000 electron volt would have charred all the living beings to death. The astronauts going to the Moon have to go through these belts and the journey through these belts would have been fatal for them. Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate

Unfortunately, Dr James Van Allen himself ultimately disagreed with your conclusion.

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"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense."

Dr. James Van Allen

Perhaps when it's renamed to the SomeStupidShlepOnGFY Radiaton Belt, you'll be considered a better souce on the subject. Until then, pipe down jackass.

bushwacker · 11-07-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Unfortunately, Dr James Van Allen himself ultimately disagreed with your conclusion.

Perhaps when it's renamed to the SomeStupidShlepOnGFY Radiaton Belt, you'll be considered a better souce on the subject. Until then, pipe down jackass.

amateurcanada · 11-07-2010, 10:50 PM

Bring a fleshlight lol.

bellskids · 11-07-2010, 11:00 PM

Expansion into space wont happen until its profitable to do so. Once the earth is bled dry of its precious elements then private corps will become interested in prospecting within the asteroid belt. Until then there will never be more than a dozen humans in space simultaneously.

0.02

Maxi · 11-07-2010, 11:10 PM

It's time to face facts.

Humans will never colonize another planet.

Man has not set foot on the Moon, and probably never will, the farthest humans have been in space is the ISS which is nothing more then a huge satellite.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if technological advancement comes to a screeching halt within the next 50 years due to wars / lack of resources.

This is not the future of man kind.

This is.

xholly · 11-07-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The big question is why?

When I see the human race spend money on the latest war to steal limited resources from their fellow humans or designing the newest super deadly weapons system that can blow up the earth 20 times over I ask why why why? why are humans so fucked in the head and always fighting with each other?

When I see money being spent on such advances as this is gives me a small glimmer of hope. Look ahead.

Carl Sagan would apreciate this and if I could Id signup to go tomorrow.

Kiopa_Matt · 11-08-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi

It's time to face facts.

Humans will never colonize another planet.

And what makes you so certain of that? Look at the technology that was available in 1910, and compare that with the technology available now in 2010. Then compare that with the technology available in 1810.

Back in 1910, main mode of transportation was horse buggy & carriage. Back then, a trip from the UK to US was a huge undertaking. Now, it's just an 8 hour pain in the ass.

There's absolutely no reason we can't colonize another planet within the next 100 - 200 years. Might have to have a decent sized war, before us idiots decide to begin working together to make it happen, but nonetheless, it's very much possible.

2MuchMark · 11-08-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

There are two invisible rings of radiation trapped by the Earth?s magnetic field in the upper atmosphere situated about 3,000 and 15,000 kilometers above the surface. These belts of radiation are named Van Allen radiation belts after the physicist James Van Allen who had discovered them in 1958. Van Allen belts contain high-energy, charged subatomic (electrons and protons) particles emitted by solar flares and carried by solar wind. If the Earth?s magnetic field had not trapped these subatomic particles and held them in the form of thick belts or rigs away from the Earth their radiation measuring 3,00,000 electron volt would have charred all the living beings to death. The astronauts going to the Moon have to go through these belts and the journey through these belts would have been fatal for them. Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate

Did you not have any science at all in elementary school? Nothing you said is correct.

2MuchMark · 11-08-2010, 12:22 AM

Humans will make it to other planets one day. I don't see this one-way mission to Mars as something that will ever get done, but I do see a return flight one day. This month's Popular Science has an article about a new plasma engine that can make the trip in a few months instead of 2 years.

The Moon may be ruled out for the moment but if enough reasons to go somewhere would pop up, I'm sure we (humans) would find a way. I can see man returning to the moon and flying to Mars in our lifetime. What I would really love to see is the discovery of life in our own solar system. Jupiters moons IO and Europa are the best bets. I'd love to see NASA send a probe to these moons that could land and drill through the ice and hopefully sample a gallon of water full of life. That would be one of the biggest scientific discoveries ever.

11-08-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Much slower. A human can live well over 1,000 years on Mars.

How does that work? Time is linear everywhere, unless there is some alternative physical properties on Mars that I don't know about.

Note, gravity does not alter space-time.

Kiopa_Matt · 11-08-2010, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

Note, gravity does not alter space-time.

No, but it does slow down the rate of molecular breakdown. The more gravity, the faster your cells break down and stop multiplying, hence you die faster. Mars doesn't have as much gravity, so your cells will continue to multiply for much longer, hence keeping you alive longer.

Maxi · 11-08-2010, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

And what makes you so certain of that?

Nuclear winter?

I think you should just put your space travel dreams on hold and see how WW3 plays out first. We all know it's going to happen and when it does theres a very good chance that it'll put a stop to technological advancements and bring us back a 100 years, so you may be forced to riding a horse carriage sooner then you're able to migrate to another planet.

Kiopa_Matt · 11-08-2010, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi

Nuclear winter?

I think you should just put your space travel dreams on hold and see how WW3 plays out first. We all know it's going to happen and when it does theres a very good chance that it'll put a stop to technological advancements and bring us back a 100 years, so you may be forced to riding a horse carriage sooner then you're able to migrate to another planet.

And what makes you so certain that WWIII will happen? Every world leader knows what will happen if a nuclear war breaks out, and I don't think any of them are stupid enough to engage in it. Besides, if WWIII does happen, the war itself will be over in about 6 hours. The rest will be diplomacy. You know, "Oh look, we just killed 1.5 billion people in half a day. This isn't good, so maybe we should sit down and talk before pushing more red buttons".

Fabien · 11-08-2010, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Humans will make it to other planets one day. I don't see this one-way mission to Mars as something that will ever get done, but I do see a return flight one day. This month's Popular Science has an article about a new plasma engine that can make the trip in a few months instead of 2 years.

The Moon may be ruled out for the moment but if enough reasons to go somewhere would pop up, I'm sure we (humans) would find a way. I can see man returning to the moon and flying to Mars in our lifetime. What I would really love to see is the discovery of life in our own solar system. Jupiters moons IO and Europa are the best bets. I'd love to see NASA send a probe to these moons that could land and drill through the ice and hopefully sample a gallon of water full of life. That would be one of the biggest scientific discoveries ever.

Yep and all religions would go down the toilets

Did we ever went to the moon ? Hummmm don't know if it's a joke but we will go back for sure and if we never went there well trust me, we'll go there one day and suck up all the juice she has to offer hehehehehehe ! We will go to Mars and do the same. Will we see this ? Will i see this ? I doubt it !

Fabien · 11-08-2010, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi

Nuclear winter?

I think you should just put your space travel dreams on hold and see how WW3 plays out first. We all know it's going to happen and when it does theres a very good chance that it'll put a stop to technological advancements and bring us back a 100 years, so you may be forced to riding a horse carriage sooner then you're able to migrate to another planet.

This is way more predictable then going to Mars indeed !
Sadly, i'm 99.9% sure this will happen. I just hope i'll be in another place when it happens ...

Fabien · 11-08-2010, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

And what makes you so certain that WWIII will happen? Every world leader knows what will happen if a nuclear war breaks out, and I don't think any of them are stupid enough to engage in it. Besides, if WWIII does happen, the war itself will be over in about 6 hours. The rest will be diplomacy. You know, "Oh look, we just killed 1.5 billion people in half a day. This isn't good, so maybe we should sit down and talk before pushing more red buttons".

" Every world leader knows what will happen if a nuclear war breaks out, and I don't think any of them are stupid enough to engage in it."

Do you really want some names ?
I got a few that comes to mind

without thinking hard

Crazy fucks everywhere mate and some of them are at the top of the pyramid !

Bird · 11-08-2010, 02:26 AM

It's that crazy Sir Ricky Branson and Google.......................

http://www.google.com/virgle/

http://www.google.com/virgle/

http://www.google.com/virgle/

ottopottomouse · 11-08-2010, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

And what makes you so certain that WWIII will happen? Every world leader knows what will happen if a nuclear war breaks out, and I don't think any of them are stupid enough to engage in it. Besides, if WWIII does happen, the war itself will be over in about 6 hours. The rest will be diplomacy. You know, "Oh look, we just killed 1.5 billion people in half a day. This isn't good, so maybe we should sit down and talk before pushing more red buttons".

It will happen, only takes one mentally unstable dictator to start it and there's no shortage of them. Personally i'd much rather go from alive to cremated in half a second than be around for the aftermath.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 11-08-2010, 04:22 AM

WW3 is coming, it is a ways off though. I predict it'll be the states who start it of course. The way I see it playing out is this. With time 3rd world nations will begin to develop and catch up. Look at India for example. They are positioned to make some serious moves in the next century. These countries will begin to put in a serious fight for power over resources, which at the moment is dominated by few. At the moment the US is greedily devouring everything they can and exploiting the fuck out of the 3rd world. The key to free market and capitalistic gains is expansion. There is no longer room for expansion within America, this is why they are in these other countries to begin with. Once these countries have the power to develop for themselves, or have been completely sucked in by American interests and those competing with American corporate interests (existing competition, and new competitors), you're going to start seeing much more aggressive battles take place over resources. You can bet the states will be the first ones to start stirring the shit. It's their divine right to conquer everything, right? Eventually there will be no more room for America to continue growing unless they launch an all out attack somewhere, and you can bet they will one way or another. Then it's time to take sides.

Fuck it, maybe a one world order is what we need at this point...

Ethersync · 11-08-2010, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

How does that work? Time is linear everywhere, unless there is some alternative physical properties on Mars that I don't know about.

Note, gravity does not alter space-time.

I wasn't serious

...though I think there are some accepted theories about gravity altering time, but I think it's the reverse of what I said and that less gravity means time is sped up and more means it's slowed down. Details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravita..._time_dilation

Paul Markham · 11-08-2010, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi

It's time to face facts.

Humans will never colonize another planet.

Man has not set foot on the Moon, and probably never will, the farthest humans have been in space is the ISS which is nothing more then a huge satellite.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if technological advancement comes to a screeching halt within the next 50 years due to wars / lack of resources.

This is not the future of man kind.

This is.

Sad post but I think true. Unless we find something on Mars that robots can't exploit and makes the trip profitable this is all we have. Getting to another solar system and getting to Mars is like comparing walking next door and going around the globe in a paddle boat.

Paul Markham · 11-08-2010, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly

When I see the human race spend money on the latest war to steal limited resources from their fellow humans or designing the newest super deadly weapons system that can blow up the earth 20 times over I ask why why why? why are humans so fucked in the head and always fighting with each other?

When I see money being spent on such advances as this is gives me a small glimmer of hope. Look ahead.

Carl Sagan would apreciate this and if I could Id signup to go tomorrow.

Wars are profitable. Space travel isn't, unless it's about putting satellites up for Mobile Phone and TV transmissions.

Zorgman · 11-08-2010, 05:55 AM

Did they ever think about sending remote controlled robots to Mars to setup a base then send people later on?

mekent · 11-08-2010, 06:10 AM

gotta love it...

Sorry, but the page you're looking for doesn't actually exist. Why? Well, because...we didn't have time to build it. Because we didn't think that particular page was all that important. Because this is just an early version of the Virgle site and lots more pages will be coming down the pike as the project --

-- oh, all right. Fine. April Fool's. Ha, ha, ha. It isn't real. There. Are you happy? Does it please you to drag us out of our lovely little fantasy world, to crush all our hopes and dreams? Is that really what you need to hear? Fine, you've heard it. Virgle isn't real.

Yet.

goodsites · 11-08-2010, 06:12 AM

Man, I can get away from you people? Fuck, if only my body could endure the space trip. I'd so be there... Anyone got $100,000 for some health change surgeries.. I seriously want to get way from you people. Help my dreams! <and im dead serious>

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 11-08-2010, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorgman

Did they ever think about sending remote controlled robots to Mars to setup a base then send people later on?

Why do that? Africa is full of blacks that are way cheaper...

calvinawe · 11-08-2010, 06:27 AM

probably i'm just daydreaming, but how about..

1., NASA sends equipment to the mars first
2., when the equip has arrived safely, they send the 1st group of people to the mars
3., they research, explore, do what they're supposed to do to be able to take off with a shuttle, and..
4., when done (or getting insane/bored.. hah) they assemble the equip. from step 1 and launch back home, with the given circumstances thanks to step 3

btw. the assumption about nullgravity->gravity collapse.. people can accomodate to different gravities even after a long time spent in each state. however, the most severe effect is that on earth they let go things which eventually fall on the ground. as they got pretty much used to zero gravity and its advantages of having things just floating around, astronauts even have these side-effects years after coming back home from a weeks-long trip in space, guess what a 8yrs long space trip would do.. hah

- LOL - · 11-08-2010, 07:03 AM

if i were selected for the mission, i'd kill all the other crew members a crash the thing into the moon

- LOL - · 11-08-2010, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

Because it's a well known (yet little talked about) fact that if we don't figure out how to live in space or on other planets within the next ~200 years, us humans are going to be extinct. Especially considering our population growth, and depleting resources, us humans simply can not sustain our species on Earth.

Let's start a war. Start a nuclear war.

At the gay bar.

PR_Glen · 11-08-2010, 07:42 AM

The minute they find a gold mine on the planet there will be fleets of people volunteering and investors chipping in I'm sure.

As for expense, Columbus's trip out west was considered a waste of money and completely insane, but without the risk taken it may have been another 100 years before someone dared try an exploration like that. Him wanting to go out there wasn't purely for making his mark as much as he thought it would be incredibly profitable as well. So as long as they come up with an incentive like that the mission will be done sooner rather than later.

Science? great, Exploration? yeah, brave? sure.. riches beyond? Sign me up! ;)

Firestarter30 · 11-08-2010, 08:18 AM

Mars has the 38% of the Earth's gravity. I would weight 31Kgs there.
And from what i know gravity affects the aging..

Sly · 11-08-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

It will happen, only takes one mentally unstable dictator to start it and there's no shortage of them. Personally i'd much rather go from alive to cremated in half a second than be around for the aftermath.

Would another World War even be necessary?

There are several countries with the power to practically wipe the map. Each of these countries would never want to do so, they aren't that nuts. So the countries with the potential to attempt starting a World War are limited to those with nuclear capabilities and "nuts" at the helm... so we are talking about places like Pakistan, North Korea, Syria, Iran, maybe even Israel. Or one could even argue a rogue scientist selling the technology to another nut bag state. And that's fair enough.

So a nut bag state has nukes. How many do they have? Minimal. One, three, maybe ten at a long shot?

Nut bag state with ten nukes against any given nuke world power with hundreds, even thousands. Would China defend North Korea? Unlikely. Would Russia defend Iran? Unlikely.

Technology and the vast disproportion of world power, I think, would hasten the possibility of a WW3. Anything is always possible... I just can't picture a short term scenario where WW3 would even take place.

Serge Litehead · 11-08-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainWolfy

where do i sign?!

yes would like to know that too

2MuchMark · 11-08-2010, 09:03 AM

Unfortunately War is cheaper and much easier due to very stupid people who prefer the lies of faith over the facts of science.

SomeCreep · 11-08-2010, 09:08 AM

People can breathe on Mars. I saw it on TV.

Anyone who goes there will be fine.

Paul Markham · 11-08-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

The minute they find a gold mine on the planet there will be fleets of people volunteering and investors chipping in I'm sure.

As for expense, Columbus's trip out west was considered a waste of money and completely insane, but without the risk taken it may have been another 100 years before someone dared try an exploration like that. Him wanting to go out there wasn't purely for making his mark as much as he thought it would be incredibly profitable as well. So as long as they come up with an incentive like that the mission will be done sooner rather than later.

Science? great, Exploration? yeah, brave? sure.. riches beyond? Sign me up! ;)

Gold is at $1,394.00 an ounce. Divide the $trillions it will cost to get there, mine it and get it back and that's the weight for a break even trip.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

And if the market crashed after you brought so much back ..........................

calvinawe · 11-08-2010, 09:22 AM

i just don't get it, why the discussion of such a beautiful (i think) scientific subject turns into talking about wars...

oh wait.. i just got it.

Ethersync · 11-08-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

No, but it does slow down the rate of molecular breakdown. The more gravity, the faster your cells break down and stop multiplying, hence you die faster. Mars doesn't have as much gravity, so your cells will continue to multiply for much longer, hence keeping you alive longer.

Any links on this?

PR_Glen · 11-08-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Gold is at $1,394.00 an ounce. Divide the $trillions it will cost to get there, mine it and get it back and that's the weight for a break even trip.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

And if the market crashed after you brought so much back ..........................

trillions? wrong...

They wouldn't go for an ounce of gold, they would go for tonnes of it, and they wouldn't do it unless it was profitable, that was my point, that you missed.

justinsain · 11-08-2010, 09:46 AM

It's interesting to see that many in this thread think the only reason to go to another planet is to rape it's resources in the quest for greed and profit after those same people had bashed the movie AVATAR for being an old rehashed story.

SleepWalker · 11-08-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate

Really? So who installed the moon reflectors we are now using to measure distance between the earth and the moon ???

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aqlo_spATEM
( go directly to 6:13 )

Jman · 11-08-2010, 09:52 AM

Send the convicts serving life... call it the second chance trip ;-)

Sly · 11-08-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

It's interesting to see that many in this thread think the only reason to go to another planet is to rape it's resources in the quest for greed and profit after those same people had bashed the movie AVATAR for being an old rehashed story.

I've always been fond of the reasoning "because we can."

Ethersync · 11-08-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

It's interesting to see that many in this thread think the only reason to go to another planet is to rape it's resources in the quest for greed and profit after those same people had bashed the movie AVATAR for being an old rehashed story.

I don't think any Martians will mind if we mine Mars

chazzKorvex · 11-08-2010, 10:26 AM

Can I bring beer? or will their be a new galactic way to catch a buzz? lol

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Maxi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 233	It's time to face facts. Humans will never colonize another planet. Man has not set foot on the Moon, and probably never will, the farthest humans have been in space is the ISS which is nothing more then a huge satellite. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if technological advancement comes to a screeching halt within the next 50 years due to wars / lack of resources. This is not the future of man kind. This is.

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mekent Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	gotta love it... Sorry, but the page you're looking for doesn't actually exist. Why? Well, because...we didn't have time to build it. Because we didn't think that particular page was all that important. Because this is just an early version of the Virgle site and lots more pages will be coming down the pike as the project -- -- oh, all right. Fine. April Fool's. Ha, ha, ha. It isn't real. There. Are you happy? Does it please you to drag us out of our lovely little fantasy world, to crush all our hopes and dreams? Is that really what you need to hear? Fine, you've heard it. Virgle isn't real. Yet.

11-08-2010, 06:12 AM	#80
goodsites Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Over the rainbows Posts: 538	Man, I can get away from you people? Fuck, if only my body could endure the space trip. I'd so be there... Anyone got $100,000 for some health change surgeries.. I seriously want to get way from you people. Help my dreams! <and im dead serious>

11-08-2010, 06:27 AM	#82
calvinawe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: AWE hq Posts: 786	probably i'm just daydreaming, but how about.. 1., NASA sends equipment to the mars first 2., when the equip has arrived safely, they send the 1st group of people to the mars 3., they research, explore, do what they're supposed to do to be able to take off with a shuttle, and.. 4., when done (or getting insane/bored.. hah) they assemble the equip. from step 1 and launch back home, with the given circumstances thanks to step 3 btw. the assumption about nullgravity->gravity collapse.. people can accomodate to different gravities even after a long time spent in each state. however, the most severe effect is that on earth they let go things which eventually fall on the ground. as they got pretty much used to zero gravity and its advantages of having things just floating around, astronauts even have these side-effects years after coming back home from a weeks-long trip in space, guess what a 8yrs long space trip would do.. hah __________________ yep.

11-08-2010, 07:03 AM	#83
- LOL - So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 396	if i were selected for the mission, i'd kill all the other crew members a crash the thing into the moon

11-08-2010, 07:42 AM	#85
PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	The minute they find a gold mine on the planet there will be fleets of people volunteering and investors chipping in I'm sure. As for expense, Columbus's trip out west was considered a waste of money and completely insane, but without the risk taken it may have been another 100 years before someone dared try an exploration like that. Him wanting to go out there wasn't purely for making his mark as much as he thought it would be incredibly profitable as well. So as long as they come up with an incentive like that the mission will be done sooner rather than later. Science? great, Exploration? yeah, brave? sure.. riches beyond? Sign me up! ;) __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

11-08-2010, 08:18 AM	#86
Firestarter30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: The Land Of Gods Posts: 167	Mars has the 38% of the Earth's gravity. I would weight 31Kgs there. And from what i know gravity affects the aging..

11-08-2010, 09:03 AM	#89
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,554	Unfortunately War is cheaper and much easier due to very stupid people who prefer the lies of faith over the facts of science. __________________ VideoChat Solutions \| Custom Software \| IT Support https://www.2much.net \| https://www.lcntech.com

11-08-2010, 09:08 AM	#90
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	People can breathe on Mars. I saw it on TV. Anyone who goes there will be fine. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

11-08-2010, 09:22 AM	#92
calvinawe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: AWE hq Posts: 786	i just don't get it, why the discussion of such a beautiful (i think) scientific subject turns into talking about wars... oh wait.. i just got it. __________________ yep.

11-08-2010, 09:46 AM	#95
justinsain Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,374	It's interesting to see that many in this thread think the only reason to go to another planet is to rape it's resources in the quest for greed and profit after those same people had bashed the movie AVATAR for being an old rehashed story.

11-08-2010, 09:52 AM	#97
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,665	Send the convicts serving life... call it the second chance trip ;-) __________________ Wowify AI API Porn.AI Affiliates Porn AI email: [email protected] Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

11-08-2010, 10:26 AM	#100
chazzKorvex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 179	Can I bring beer? or will their be a new galactic way to catch a buzz? lol __________________ Chazz Korvex