Gov seized domains should tube site owners be scared? - GoFuckYourself.com

SZNY · 11-29-2010, 06:56 PM

Kind of simular reasons, what do you think?

"The protection of intellectual property is a top priority," ICE Director John Morton said. "We are dedicated to protecting the jobs, the income and the tax revenue that disappear when counterfeit goods are trafficked."

Fat Panda · 11-29-2010, 06:59 PM

no politician will make a stand when it comes to porn

Robbie · 11-29-2010, 06:59 PM

I would say "not yet"...but the clock is ticking on it. It's coming.

Argos88 · 11-29-2010, 07:42 PM

nope.. no big sites (either tube or sharing) was taken down..

they are still up and working fine.

fatfoo · 11-29-2010, 07:44 PM

Gov seized domains? That sucks for domain owner.

Dirty Dane · 11-29-2010, 09:15 PM

They work their way down on Alexa list, fap to the porn sites, then move on.

Argos88 · 11-29-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

Gov seized domains? That sucks for domain owner.

Not just goddady, I found they seized one site that was registered with a Chinese registrar which shows that they have control over all and the excuse of: "I register everything offshore and usa can't touch me" is a BIG MYTH....

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Agent 488 · 11-29-2010, 09:25 PM

those that comply with dmca's, no.

DaddyHalbucks · 11-29-2010, 09:37 PM

Intellectual property/ content theft is not a sustainable business plan.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 11-30-2010, 12:54 AM

safe for now, maybe not so safe in a year or two. i'd be surprised to see any big tube acquisitions go down in the near future though. at least, i'd be worried about dropping big money on an investment like that right now.

Odin · 11-30-2010, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Argos88

Not just goddady, I found they seized one site that was registered with a Chinese registrar which shows that they have control over all and the excuse of: "I register everything offshore and usa can't touch me" is a BIG MYTH....

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The warrants are being served on Verisign, a US based company. The control .com .net and operate .cc. Using offshore TLD's will prevent any action being taken for the mean time.

closer · 11-30-2010, 03:49 AM

TSA only seized domain names controlled by American citizens; or foreigners based and/or operating from within the USA borders.

They just might want to extend that to sites that primarily target US visitors ... then they can do whatever they want

SZNY · 11-30-2010, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I would say "not yet"...but the clock is ticking on it. It's coming.

I'm not legally skilled but in my eyes it looks pretty the same. Adult companies produce content which has is related to jobs, peoples income and tax revs for the governments.

The Tubes who are using stolen content are contributing in people losing jobs, income and tax revs for the govs.

Very curious how this all results.

Odin · 11-30-2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SZNY

I'm not legally skilled but in my eyes it looks pretty the same. Adult companies produce content which has is related to jobs, peoples income and tax revs for the governments.

The Tubes who are using stolen content are contributing in people losing jobs, income and tax revs for the govs.

Very curious how this all results.

Not trying to justify it, but I always felt that the Government ignored copyright violations because they felt the job losses were offset by the job creation in the tech industry, which they viewed strategically more important to the future.

One tube, creates a demand for large hosting (jobs), creates demand for extra internet capacity (jobs), creates demand for significant amounts of hardware (jobs), etc. I am not saying the offset is enough, but in some respects it might be.

SZNY · 11-30-2010, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odin

Not trying to justify it, but I always felt that the Government ignored copyright violations because they felt the job losses were offset by the job creation in the tech industry, which they viewed strategically more important to the future.

One tube, creates a demand for large hosting (jobs), creates demand for extra internet capacity (jobs), creates demand for significant amounts of hardware (jobs), etc. I am not saying the offset is enough, but in some respects it might be.

True, from the Tube owner's perspective it offers more jobs and capacity but on the other side it decreases sale (rightful owners of the content), less productions and the government have less tax revenues.

andrej_NDC · 11-30-2010, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Argos88

they seized one site that was registered with a Chinese registrar

I don't think thats possible or it ever happened.

seeandsee · 11-30-2010, 07:45 AM

illegal tubes down please, more cash to all

iSpyCams · 11-30-2010, 07:50 AM

I think it was a test run to see what kind of outrage was generated by seizing domains without any real warning or process, apparently simply on the basis of complaints.

Since it appears no one gives a shit about any of the domains siezed, I am sure the next round will target some bigger fish.

SZNY · 11-30-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

I think it was a test run to see what kind of outrage was generated by seizing domains without any real warning or process, apparently simply on the basis of complaints.

Since it appears no one gives a shit about any of the domains siezed, I am sure the next round will target some bigger fish.

Yeah indeed its kind of strange they all do it without a warning of legal process. You could be right that this is just the start of something bigger.

Robbie · 11-30-2010, 09:38 AM

I've never heard of a "warning" when someone's domain was taken for blatantly breaking the law with it. Have you? I've never personally had one taken, just heard and read of people having their domains taken down for various reasons. Never heard that they were given a warning or any kind of "process"

I'm pretty sure that what is happening has always happened when illegal activity is self evident on the website itself. Whether it was c p then or the copyright infringement we see now. If it's blatantly there and complaints have been made to point it out...just saying I never heard of someone being told: "Hey, you have 100,000 + stolen full length movies on your site that the copyright owners of those movies are raising hell about, we'd like to just let you keep doing what you're doing even though it's against the law and using a domain to break the law is against tos of owning a domain. But after a while we might decide to shut it down after we process it."
Never heard of that happening. It's usually an investigation and then BOOM-BOOM out go the lights.

Anybody aware of a site that blatantly broke the law and instead of the domain being seized they had some "process" and "warning"? And I'm not talking about gray areas of free speech...I'm talking flat out breaking the law (like copyright infringement for instance or c p)

brassmonkey · 11-30-2010, 09:42 AM

they would have to be 100% or close to illegal content.

Odin · 11-30-2010, 09:43 AM

Here you go Robbie:

http://larrydownes.com/domain-name-s...il-forfeiture/

As I've said before there is A LOT of legal debate about such property seizures. Eventually these will be challenged to. But it's irrelevant they are targeting a few TLD's within US control. Not to worry.

Horny Dude · 11-30-2010, 10:29 AM

I think most of them were music or movie sharing sites.

CurrentlySober · 11-30-2010, 10:38 AM

tvshack.cc has been pulled in the last 24 hours I believe. It happened to the .net or .com of the domain months ago - How I first heard of them. So they moved to .cc now that is gone.

11-29-2010, 06:56 PM	#1
SZNY SZNY Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sexy Republic Posts: 2,799	Gov seized domains should tube site owners be scared? Kind of simular reasons, what do you think? "The protection of intellectual property is a top priority," ICE Director John Morton said. "We are dedicated to protecting the jobs, the income and the tax revenue that disappear when counterfeit goods are trafficked."

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iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	I think it was a test run to see what kind of outrage was generated by seizing domains without any real warning or process, apparently simply on the basis of complaints. Since it appears no one gives a shit about any of the domains siezed, I am sure the next round will target some bigger fish.

11-30-2010, 09:38 AM	#20
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	I've never heard of a "warning" when someone's domain was taken for blatantly breaking the law with it. Have you? I've never personally had one taken, just heard and read of people having their domains taken down for various reasons. Never heard that they were given a warning or any kind of "process" I'm pretty sure that what is happening has always happened when illegal activity is self evident on the website itself. Whether it was c p then or the copyright infringement we see now. If it's blatantly there and complaints have been made to point it out...just saying I never heard of someone being told: "Hey, you have 100,000 + stolen full length movies on your site that the copyright owners of those movies are raising hell about, we'd like to just let you keep doing what you're doing even though it's against the law and using a domain to break the law is against tos of owning a domain. But after a while we might decide to shut it down after we process it." Never heard of that happening. It's usually an investigation and then BOOM-BOOM out go the lights. Anybody aware of a site that blatantly broke the law and instead of the domain being seized they had some "process" and "warning"? And I'm not talking about gray areas of free speech...I'm talking flat out breaking the law (like copyright infringement for instance or c p) __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com Last edited by Robbie; 11-30-2010 at 09:39 AM..

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