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heard some rumours that the HIV infection rates in africa were, ah, overblown
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damn you almost made my day on that one;)
True story. I got a little excited and was about to check TMZ for the details.
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heard some rumours that the HIV infection rates in africa were, ah, overblown
AIDs stats in Africa are based on Presumptive Diagnosis... i.e., everyone that died of tb, or dysentery from any of the most common bacterial and viral infections that plague places that do not have clean drinking water is if they also don't have sex with condoms then they are presumed to have AIDs.

The president of South Africa has been attacked and ridiculed for trying to raise this issue with WHO - stating that there are huge discrepencies between what WHO reports and actual cases that are diagnosed in south african hospitals. But he unfortunately is ridiculed for it and no one wants to let go of those dollars in aid... (the irony of the word "aid" must not be lost here)

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AIDs stats in Africa are based on Presumptive Diagnosis... i.e., everyone that died of tb, or dysentery from any of the most common bacterial and viral infections that plague places that do not have clean drinking water is if they also don't have sex with condoms then they are presumed to have AIDs.

The president of South Africa has been attacked and ridiculed for trying to raise this issue with WHO - stating that there are huge discrepencies between what WHO reports and actual cases that are diagnosed in south african hospitals. But he unfortunately is ridiculed for it and no one wants to let go of those dollars in aid... (the irony of the word "aid" must not be lost here)

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AIDs stats in Africa are based on Presumptive Diagnosis... i.e., everyone that died of tb, or dysentery from any of the most common bacterial and viral infections that plague places that do not have clean drinking water is if they also don't have sex with condoms then they are presumed to have AIDs.

The president of South Africa has been attacked and ridiculed for trying to raise this issue with WHO - stating that there are huge discrepencies between what WHO reports and actual cases that are diagnosed in south african hospitals. But he unfortunately is ridiculed for it and no one wants to let go of those dollars in aid... (the irony of the word "aid" must not be lost here)

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Unfortunately? Jacob Zuma had sex with someone he knew was HIV positive and his idea of prevention was having a shower afterwards. I won't even go into the stupidity of Thabo Mbeki's idiotic beliefs. But his policies contributed to the high rate of HIV/AIDS transmission in South Africa.

Hardly a shining example of leadership in a country that DOES have an extremely high HIV/AIDS rate. BTW they also base statistics on maternal rates of HIV and those are determined through testing and not 'presumptive diagnosis'.
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Unfortunately? Jacob Zuma had sex with someone he knew was HIV positive and his idea of prevention was having a shower afterwards. I won't even go into the stupidity of Thabo Mbeki's idiotic beliefs. But his policies contributed to the high rate of HIV/AIDS transmission in South Africa.

Hardly a shining example of leadership in a country that DOES have an extremely high HIV/AIDS rate. BTW they also base statistics on maternal rates of HIV and those are determined through testing and not 'presumptive diagnosis'.

in africa you can cure aids by having sex with virgins.
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Unfortunately? Jacob Zuma had sex with someone he knew was HIV positive and his idea of prevention was having a shower afterwards. I won't even go into the stupidity of Thabo Mbeki's idiotic beliefs. But his policies contributed to the high rate of HIV/AIDS transmission in South Africa.

Hardly a shining example of leadership in a country that DOES have an extremely high HIV/AIDS rate. BTW they also base statistics on maternal rates of HIV and those are determined through testing and not 'presumptive diagnosis'.
'Mbeki's government did, however, introduce a law allowing cheaper locally-produced generic medicines, and in April 2001 succeeded in defending a legal action brought by transnational pharmaceutical companies to set aside the law. AIDS activists, particularly the Treatment Action Campaign and its allies, thought that the law was intended to support a cheap antiretroviral drugs programme and applauded Mbeki's government.'

weird, i thought you said this guys beliefs were idiotic? maybe he just pissed off the wrong pharmaceutical companies
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'Mbeki's government did, however, introduce a law allowing cheaper locally-produced generic medicines, and in April 2001 succeeded in defending a legal action brought by transnational pharmaceutical companies to set aside the law. AIDS activists, particularly the Treatment Action Campaign and its allies, thought that the law was intended to support a cheap antiretroviral drugs programme and applauded Mbeki's government.'

weird, i thought you said this guys beliefs were idiotic? maybe he just pissed off the wrong pharmaceutical companies
Mbeki didn't believe HIV/AIDS existed. He brought together a round table of 'experts', many who were well known AIDS denialists. He and the health minister at the time blocked nationwide treatment strategies, FREE drug treatment for hospitals, and obviously prevention efforts suffered as well.

Check your sources. Mbeki's failure on the treatment of the HIV/AIDS crisis in South Africa is well documented.

Mbeki AIDS denial 'caused 300 000 deaths' Source: guardian
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Mbeki didn't believe HIV/AIDS existed. He brought together a round table of 'experts', many who were well known AIDS denialists. He and the health minister at the time blocked nationwide treatment strategies, FREE drug treatment for hospitals, and obviously prevention efforts suffered as well.

Check your sources. Mbeki's failure on the treatment of the HIV/AIDS crisis in South Africa is well documented.

Mbeki AIDS denial 'caused 300 000 deaths' Source: guardian
check my sources? my sources tell me there was a guy in power of a country raped by colonialism, who was a little chaffed at taking those very same powers word about an infection that just magically became a massive epidemic over a territory where genocide just wasn't working quickly enough?

don't the British have a few dogs in that race?

sources. lol. maybe i should start pulling some numbers on the AIDS/HIV infection rates in comparison of what the UN is claiming the rates are at.
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check my sources? my sources tell me there was a guy in power of a country raped by colonialism, who was a little chaffed at taking those very same powers word about an infection that just magically became a massive epidemic over a territory where genocide just wasn't working quickly enough?

don't the British have a few dogs in that race?

sources. lol. maybe i should start pulling some numbers on the AIDS/HIV infection rates in comparison of what the UN is claiming the rates are at.
I'm South African and have a bi-racial family so I think I know a little bit about the situation over there;)

Mbeki got too wrapped up in media representations of Africa which focus on war, HIV/AIDS, poverty and everything else that is negative. There was nothing wrong with his criticism of the representation of the HIV/AIDS crisis in the media. There is a tendency to still only portray Africa like it is stuck in this primitive state like Joseph Conrad described in 'Heart of Darkness'.

He was worried that everyone overseas would see black Africans as diseased, overly sexual, and all the other negative assumptions that many people have about people living in Africa.

But that is an academic discussion that is better suited for a course in post-colonialism, or even media studies. It should not inform your national strategy on treating a real disease that is killing millions of people in the country where you are the president. He consulted with AIDS denialists, who have been discredited time and again, instead of scientists who wanted to help and had no hidden agendas.

Your earlier quote about the Treatment Action Campaign supporting Mbeki's strategy came after they protested against his policies for YEARS. They were just playing nice so that some sort of treatment plan could go ahead after Mbeki blocking everything for so long.
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Mbeki got too wrapped up in media representations of Africa which focus on war, HIV/AIDS, poverty and everything else that is negative. There was nothing wrong with his criticism of the representation of the HIV/AIDS crisis in the media. There is a tendency to still only portray Africa like it is stuck in this primitive state like Joseph Conrad described in 'Heart of Darkness'.

He was worried that everyone overseas would see black Africans as diseased, overly sexual, and all the other negative assumptions that many people have about people living in Africa.

But that is an academic discussion that is better suited for a course in post-colonialism, or even media studies. It should not inform your national strategy on treating a real disease that is killing millions of people in the country where you are the president. He consulted with AIDS denialists, who have been discredited time and again, instead of scientists who wanted to help and had no hidden agendas.

Your earlier quote about the Treatment Action Campaign supporting Mbeki's strategy came after they protested against his policies for YEARS. They were just playing nice so that some sort of treatment plan could go ahead after Mbeki blocking everything for so long.
not sure about all this speculation, but i believe that TAC was supporting Mbeki because Mbeki apparently believed they should be producing medicine locally, rather than accepting failed AIDS medication from companies with some serious issues

i believe there even was a multinational lawsuit, fought by big pharmacy, against him to try and stop him from doing this. Now these are facts, so i think your caricature that this guy doesn't even believe in the disease is a little strange, and possibly echos of a smear campaign if you're reading british news about S.A. government. am i speculating now? dammit
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not sure about all this speculation, but i believe that TAC was supporting Mbeki because Mbeki apparently believed they should be producing medicine locally, rather than accepting failed AIDS medication from companies with some serious issues

i believe there even was a multinational lawsuit, fought by big pharmacy, against him to try and stop him from doing this. Now these are facts, so i think your caricature that this guy doesn't even believe in the disease is a little strange, and possibly echos of a smear campaign if you're reading british news about S.A. government. am i speculating now? dammit
I can find you lots of local South African sources if you want. The article in the Guardian was the first that popped up on Google, but there are lots more. Mbeki was criticized even more in South Africa than he was internationally. And that was across the board, even within his own party and other activist groups.

Even if you take AIDS denialism out of the picture, Mbeki & the health minister at the time were making statements like it was pointless providing drug treatment because poor people couldn't be relied upon to be compliant. This is an example of class discrimination and wasn't true. There was lots of research done on community workers who worked with people in the townships who had T.B and they DID take their medication and their health improved.

The multinational lawsuit with the drug companies is a separate issue. I agree that the big pharmaceutical companies aren't motivated by goodwill. They are driven by profit and do awful things like block local production of medication, and spend research money on drugs that will earn them money. So other diseases go untreated in the developing world because they know they won't make their money there. So the T.A.C worked with Mbeki in that case.

But Mbeki still believed HIV/AIDS wasn't real and that the symptoms were caused by poverty. His health minister come up with some public health awareness program telling people to consume olive oil and African potatoes to boost their immune systems so they wouldn't exhibit 'AIDS like' symptoms. It was ridiculous. HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence in the developed world because of the medication. They didn't even want the medication when it was offered for free.

Here are some links:
http://www.timeslive.co.za/news/article172702.ece

"The Treatment Action Campaign, which fought for government provision of antiretroviral drugs and was at loggerheads with Mbeki and Tshabalala-Msimang because of their denialist views, hailed Zuma's speech as a "breath of fresh air".

"This is a sign of political will in this administration to fight the epidemic as well as TB," said TAC general secretary Vuyiseka Dubula

"We have lacked this level of leadership on Aids and TB from the government for 15 years."

Mbeki's mistake. source: nature.com
Mbeki dismissed the deputy health minister because she opposed his strategies and wasn't an HIV/AIDS denialist.

Crimes of the great denialist source: Mail & Guardian South Africa. Mbeki was actually impeached partly due to his failure to address the HIV/AIDs crisis.

TONS of articles from the TAC the impact of AIDS denialism in South Africa and Mbeki role in the deaths of many South Africans. They call his policies an example of 'health apartheid'
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Mbeki didn't believe HIV/AIDS existed. He brought together a round table of 'experts', many who were well known AIDS denialists. He and the health minister at the time blocked nationwide treatment strategies, FREE drug treatment for hospitals, and obviously prevention efforts suffered as well.

Check your sources. Mbeki's failure on the treatment of the HIV/AIDS crisis in South Africa is well documented.

Mbeki AIDS denial 'caused 300 000 deaths' Source: guardian
I would've hardly referred to Duesberg and Mullis as "denialist" but like I said I don't really wish to debate it with you. The Guardian is your source? Second hand reporting from unquestioned biased sources rather than first hand information from a Nobel Prize winning scientist and head of microbiology at Berkeley... both of whom I have had the privilege to meet personally.

Scientific debate, which should only be encouraged, not politically motivated, biased, and ultimately censored, is the real issue here, not politics. But whatever, show me all your statistics and I will introduce you to people that are HIV free after being told they would die within two to four years from AIDS.

More people still die from TB worldwide by over a factor of ten times the rate of AIDS and you don't see even half the fuss to "find the cure". But it is really more like... find the drug that people have to take daily, right?

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I would've hardly referred to Duesberg and Mullis as "denialist" but like I said I don't really wish to debate it with you. The Guardian is your source? Second hand reporting from unquestioned biased sources rather than first hand information from a Nobel Prize winning scientist and head of microbiology at Berkeley... both of whom I have had the privilege to meet personally.

Scientific debate, which should only be encouraged, not politically motivated, biased, and ultimately censored, is the real issue here, not politics. But whatever, show me all your statistics and I will introduce you to people that are HIV free after being told they would die within two to four years from AIDS.

More people still die from TB worldwide by over a factor of ten times the rate of AIDS and you don't see even half the fuss to "find the cure". But it is really more like... find the drug that people have to take daily, right?

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That B. Dylan quote is true, but I posted lots more sources a few posts up. Many from South Africa news sources and organizations involved in the treatment of HIV/AIDS.

I'm all for debate in science, but pseudo-science has no place in national policy when people's lives are at stake.
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